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[Jimminy Crimbles]

The lobster proliferation mod seems to have a flaw in that it says soil is needed to build the aquaculture building 
Which might have some odd interactions with TASC's terraforming, should you change a planet to a water world.
But nothing that can't be mitigated by use of console commands.

If lobster proliferation works properly on a vanilla water world it should work fine on a water world created using TASC. If the planet is terraformed to a different type after the lobster proliferation building has already been constructed then there might be unintended behavior.

so i just tested this. aquaculture works fine if you try to build it on a natural water world, but it's broken on a terraformed water world.

here's a quick and dirty fix that works for me:
head into \Lobster Proliferation 2.0.0\data\scripts\campaign, and open LobsterFarming
then find this code:

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	@Override
	public boolean isAvailableToBuild() {
		if (!super.isAvailableToBuild()) return false;
		boolean aquaculture = Industries.AQUACULTURE.equals(getId());
		boolean canAquaculture = market.getPlanetEntity() != null && 
								 AQUA_PLANETS.contains(market.getPlanetEntity().getTypeId());
		if (aquaculture != canAquaculture) return false;
		
		for (MarketConditionAPI mc : market.getConditions()) {
			if (ResourceDepositsCondition.COMMODITY.get(mc.getId()) == null) {
				return false;
			}
			String commodity = ResourceDepositsCondition.COMMODITY.get(mc.getId()).toString();
			if (commodity != null) {
				String industry = ResourceDepositsCondition.INDUSTRY.get(commodity).toString();
				if (Industries.FARMING.equals(industry)) return true;
			}
		}
		return false;
	}

and replace it with the vanilla aquaculture code here:

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  public boolean isAvailableToBuild() {
    if (!super.isAvailableToBuild())
      return false; 
    boolean aquaculture = "aquaculture".equals(getId());
    boolean canAquaculture = (this.market.getPlanetEntity() != null && 
      AQUA_PLANETS.contains(this.market.getPlanetEntity().getTypeId()));
    if (aquaculture != canAquaculture)
      return false; 
    for (MarketConditionAPI mc : this.market.getConditions()) {
      String commodity = (String)ResourceDepositsCondition.COMMODITY.get(mc.getId());
      if (commodity != null) {
        String industry = (String)ResourceDepositsCondition.INDUSTRY.get(commodity);
        if ("farming".equals(industry))
          return true; 
      } 
    } 
    return false;
  }

[GuerrillaGorilla]

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This planet type is unsupported by TASC. Planet type nskr_ice_desert

I don't know what mod "nskr" is. If I google it Seeker comes up, but I don't have it installed so it can't be that.

[boggled]

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This planet type is unsupported by TASC. Planet type nskr_ice_desert

I don't know what mod "nskr" is. If I google it Seeker comes up, but I don't have it installed so it can't be that.

Hmm, what is the name of the planet? Perhaps other players here will recognize what mod it's from.

The lobster proliferation mod seems to have a flaw in that it says soil is needed to build the aquaculture building 
Which might have some odd interactions with TASC's terraforming, should you change a planet to a water world.
But nothing that can't be mitigated by use of console commands.

If lobster proliferation works properly on a vanilla water world it should work fine on a water world created using TASC. If the planet is terraformed to a different type after the lobster proliferation building has already been constructed then there might be unintended behavior.

so i just tested this. aquaculture works fine if you try to build it on a natural water world, but it's broken on a terraformed water world.

here's a quick and dirty fix that works for me:
head into \Lobster Proliferation 2.0.0\data\scripts\campaign, and open LobsterFarming
then find this code:

Code

	@Override
	public boolean isAvailableToBuild() {
		if (!super.isAvailableToBuild()) return false;
		boolean aquaculture = Industries.AQUACULTURE.equals(getId());
		boolean canAquaculture = market.getPlanetEntity() != null && 
								 AQUA_PLANETS.contains(market.getPlanetEntity().getTypeId());
		if (aquaculture != canAquaculture) return false;
		
		for (MarketConditionAPI mc : market.getConditions()) {
			if (ResourceDepositsCondition.COMMODITY.get(mc.getId()) == null) {
				return false;
			}
			String commodity = ResourceDepositsCondition.COMMODITY.get(mc.getId()).toString();
			if (commodity != null) {
				String industry = ResourceDepositsCondition.INDUSTRY.get(commodity).toString();
				if (Industries.FARMING.equals(industry)) return true;
			}
		}
		return false;
	}

and replace it with the vanilla aquaculture code here:

Code

  public boolean isAvailableToBuild() {
    if (!super.isAvailableToBuild())
      return false; 
    boolean aquaculture = "aquaculture".equals(getId());
    boolean canAquaculture = (this.market.getPlanetEntity() != null && 
      AQUA_PLANETS.contains(this.market.getPlanetEntity().getTypeId()));
    if (aquaculture != canAquaculture)
      return false; 
    for (MarketConditionAPI mc : this.market.getConditions()) {
      String commodity = (String)ResourceDepositsCondition.COMMODITY.get(mc.getId());
      if (commodity != null) {
        String industry = (String)ResourceDepositsCondition.INDUSTRY.get(commodity);
        if ("farming".equals(industry))
          return true; 
      } 
    } 
    return false;
  }

That's very interesting. As far as I can tell, those two code blocks should be functionally identical. I'm curious why the author of Lobster Profileration rewrote that code to do the same thing using different syntax. I'll take a look and try to figure out what's going on. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

[Jimminy Crimbles]

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This planet type is unsupported by TASC. Planet type nskr_ice_desert

I don't know what mod "nskr" is. If I google it Seeker comes up, but I don't have it installed so it can't be that.

it's from lost_sector.

[boggled]

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This planet type is unsupported by TASC. Planet type nskr_ice_desert

I don't know what mod "nskr" is. If I google it Seeker comes up, but I don't have it installed so it can't be that.

it's from lost sector.

Thank you! I'll try to release a patch soon to add support.

[GuerrillaGorilla]

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This planet type is unsupported by TASC. Planet type nskr_ice_desert

I don't know what mod "nskr" is. If I google it Seeker comes up, but I don't have it installed so it can't be that.

it's from lost sector.

Thank you! I'll try to release a patch soon to add support.

Thank you. In hindsight I think I could have used Notepad++'s "find in files" feature to discover which mod it was, I even used it before to clean up a couple dumb "tips".

[jvaler]

Domain-Era Artifacts have a global market value of 8,000, making it incredibly unprofitable to build the Domain Archeology industry and take up an industry slot.

Are there any thoughts on somehow increasing this to make ruins a more valuable market condition and Domain Archeology a viable industry? Or is the extremely low market value purposeful?

[boggled]

Domain-Era Artifacts have a global market value of 8,000, making it incredibly unprofitable to build the Domain Archeology industry and take up an industry slot.

Are there any thoughts on somehow increasing this to make ruins a more valuable market condition and Domain Archeology a viable industry? Or is the extremely low market value purposeful?

I think Domain-era artifacts have a high market value individually relative to other commodities, right?

The primary purpose of the Domain Archaeology building is not to generate income through exports. In vanilla, the maximum available amount of Domain-era artifacts produced by NPC colonies is only four, whereas many of the more powerful buildings in TASC require more than that. The player having a large colony with Domain Archaeology is meant to be a sort of "gate" to the late game content in TASC.

[jvaler]

I think Domain-era artifacts have a high market value individually relative to other commodities, right?

Their value as an item is high, but their global market value as a commodity is extremely low relative to other commodities

The primary purpose of the Domain Archaeology building is not to generate income through exports. In vanilla, the maximum available amount of Domain-era artifacts produced by NPC colonies is only four, whereas many of the more powerful buildings in TASC require more than that. The player having a large colony with Domain Archaeology is meant to be a sort of "gate" to the late game content in TASC.

Oh okay, this makes sense. Sort of like how most of AoTD's resources are extremely unprofitable (aside from rectifates and biotics) and act as a sort of secondary tech tree?

[boggled]

I think Domain-era artifacts have a high market value individually relative to other commodities, right?

Their value as an item is high, but their global market value as a commodity is extremely low relative to other commodities

Agreed on this, and that's intended.

The primary purpose of the Domain Archaeology building is not to generate income through exports. In vanilla, the maximum available amount of Domain-era artifacts produced by NPC colonies is only four, whereas many of the more powerful buildings in TASC require more than that. The player having a large colony with Domain Archaeology is meant to be a sort of "gate" to the late game content in TASC.

Oh okay, this makes sense. Sort of like how most of AoTD's resources are extremely unprofitable (aside from rectifates and biotics) and act as a sort of secondary tech tree?

Yeah, it's meant to act sort of like a tech tree in that the player has to reach a certain level of power before they can access some of the endgame content.

[SirFfuzzyLogik]

Did you also install Ashes of the Domain? It has a research system where many TASC buildings must be researched before they can be built.

That's why I couldn't find the atmospheric processor. Thanks for the clarification!

[JenkoRun]

Was playing The Last Hurrah and was thinking about what the Pathers did to Mayasura for terraforming, any thoughts on adding interaction with Pathers for something similar for "making a false paradise" as they'd say?

[boggled]

Was playing The Last Hurrah and was thinking about what the Pathers did to Mayasura for terraforming, any thoughts on adding interaction with Pathers for something similar for "making a false paradise" as they'd say?

This is sort of covered by the very high Pather interest generated by most of TASC's buildings. Terraforming projects usually require at least one or two of these buildings.

[Cykodelik]

So I I just built a sling on a cryovolcanic world and I still don't have access to large quantaties of water. Do I need to build to, is there a distance issue?

Basically how does Imsara's sling work???

I am getting "moderate amounts of water" as green now but I don't know if it started like that

Great mod and thank you but we really need a guide or just tooltips maybe?

[Cykodelik]

I just read the sling only works in the same system. Shame all my colonized plantes have no elligible plantes to build it on. It seems a tad underpowered to be honest.