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[float]

The invasion's ground strength (in terms of raw marine numbers) scales partially to the target's expected garrison size (before the fleet does its tactical bombardment on arrival thing), so the estimate should start out about even. Though it doesn't take into account the admin's Ground Operations bonus (if any), and while it considers the drop attrition effect of ground defenses/heavy batteries I don't expect it's very good at it.

Next time I'm working on the mod, I should probably look at a breakdown of the estimate calculation and see how it can be improved.

Hmm... so I played around with it a bit more.

Requesting 100 FP, 100 marine invasion on Lucifron (1804 space, 39312 ground)
Results: space forces outmatched, ground forces outmatched

Requesting 1500 FP, 16000 marine invasion on Garnir (16 space, 77 ground)
Results: space forces superior, ground forces "evenly matched", outcome is uncertain

It seems like no matter how much ground superiority you have over the target, the scaling that you mentioned makes it so that your ground forces can never be listed as superior to the target's. This means that the tooltip will never say that an invasion is likely to succeed, which can be frustrating when an enemy faction is invading your colony and you don't know if "evenly matched" really means evenly matched, or if they actually have 100x your ground forces.

[Maethendias]

I... appreciate the replies so far, but there are unfortunately what I already do. I always bring about 10K supplies with me and always do a tac bombardment before I start combat. The issue I'm running into Is I can't seem to deploy troops fast enough to counter the non-militia ground troops already present on the world. Tartarus for example can, and has, redeployed up to 10k troop power onto a single industry, and with me being about to only deploy about 2.4k per turn most of my guys just get turned to gristle.

just have more raw marines and ground supports

from what i have noticed, having just a LOT of marines and a few ground supports allows you to deploy more marines during invasions too

i guess its a %tage you are allowed to use for invading?

also heavy weapons

[SneakyDevil]

ah HA, YES!

ground supports allows you to deploy more marines during invasions

This is what I was missing. Swapping out some ships for ones with GSP allowed for a massive increase in the supply pool. I wish this was mentioned somewhere in the Help tooltip for the invasions as that seems a pretty important thing to mention.

Thanks Maethendias!

[Maethendias]

ah HA, YES!

ground supports allows you to deploy more marines during invasions

This is what I was missing. Swapping out some ships for ones with GSP allowed for a massive increase in the supply pool. I wish this was mentioned somewhere in the Help tooltip for the invasions as that seems a pretty important thing to mention.

Thanks Maethendias!

again, dont quote me on that, i just noticed that when doing those steps i never have problem deploying en mass
so could be one, could be both things, could be neither and just something entirely unrelated thats happening

[Histidine]

I figured people would bring ground support ships to an invasion as a matter of course (in which case, the bonuses would have been displayed in the invasion's info tab and the movement points tooltip). Welp.

Hmm... so I played around with it a bit more.

Requesting 100 FP, 100 marine invasion on Lucifron (1804 space, 39312 ground)
Results: space forces outmatched, ground forces outmatched

Requesting 1500 FP, 16000 marine invasion on Garnir (16 space, 77 ground)
Results: space forces superior, ground forces "evenly matched", outcome is uncertain

It seems like no matter how much ground superiority you have over the target, the scaling that you mentioned makes it so that your ground forces can never be listed as superior to the target's. This means that the tooltip will never say that an invasion is likely to succeed, which can be frustrating when an enemy faction is invading your colony and you don't know if "evenly matched" really means evenly matched, or if they actually have 100x your ground forces.

Thanks for testing!
The Garnir case is so obviously wrong, I checked and there's indeed the bug I suspected: the invasion intel is overriding the number of marines specified in the fleet request with its own auto-calculated figure. And it looks like this bug has been there forever.


Fixed for next version, thanks! This makes the 16k marines vs. Garnir case actually work correctly.
I'll check if the estimates are still being weird in other places afterwards.

[Maethendias]

i just discovered another thing... this time about rebellions:

the persian league successfully invaded a planet of the avionics, which i retook 2 weeks later...

however, the planet somehow managed to spawn a persian league rebellion? (despite it being a core avionics market?)... which then took the planet over and promtly wiped it out?

[Obsidian Actual]

i just discovered another thing... this time about rebellions:

the persian league successfully invaded a planet of the avionics, which i retook 2 weeks later...

however, the planet somehow managed to spawn a persian league rebellion? (despite it being a core avionics market?)... which then took the planet over and promtly wiped it out?

Whenever an attacking faction takes over a market, the previous faction (defenders) will always spawn a rebellion on-planet.

If left unattended, they can (from my experience) wreck havoc on the market's structures/industries.
I've never seen it devolve into a depopulization event though (if I'm reading you correctly).

Every time you take over a market, make sure to comms the market administrator/governor NPC afterwards, and ask about how you can contribute to quashing said rebellion before it gets out of hand.

[Maethendias]

i just discovered another thing... this time about rebellions:

the persian league successfully invaded a planet of the avionics, which i retook 2 weeks later...

however, the planet somehow managed to spawn a persian league rebellion? (despite it being a core avionics market?)... which then took the planet over and promtly wiped it out?

Whenever an attacking faction takes over a market, the previous faction (defenders) will always spawn a rebellion on-planet.

If left unattended, they can (from my experience) wreck havoc on the market's structures/industries.
I've never seen it devolve into a depopulization event though (if I'm reading you correctly).

Every time you take over a market, make sure to comms the market administrator/governor NPC afterwards, and ask about how you can contribute to quashing said rebellion before it gets out of hand.

it didnt acutally do a depop event, it straight up bombed out after they won

[Oni]

Does anyone know which parameters I need to adjust to make Raids more common and invasions less so (but not stopping them entirely)? 

[Histidine]

i just discovered another thing... this time about rebellions:

the persian league successfully invaded a planet of the avionics, which i retook 2 weeks later...

however, the planet somehow managed to spawn a persian league rebellion? (despite it being a core avionics market?)... which then took the planet over and promtly wiped it out?

Conquest always spawns a rebellion of the immediately prior owner if possible, unless the conquering faction is the 'original owner' (or the previous owner was the Derelict Empire).
(I'll expand this to allies of the original owner)

Does anyone know which parameters I need to adjust to make Raids more common and invasions less so (but not stopping them entirely)? 

Can't be done at present, raids always alternate with invasion/satbomb events.

I've had a proposal on the back burner for some time, where factions have a defined chance of raid/invasion/sat bomb that gets rolled every time the offensive action event comes up. Probably not going to happen any time soon though.

[Oni]

...

Does anyone know which parameters I need to adjust to make Raids more common and invasions less so (but not stopping them entirely)? 

Can't be done at present, raids always alternate with invasion/satbomb events.

I've had a proposal on the back burner for some time, where factions have a defined chance of raid/invasion/sat bomb that gets rolled every time the offensive action event comes up. Probably not going to happen any time soon though.

Unfortunate, guess I'll have to stick with just lengthening the delay before everything descends into chaos (lots of faction mods. lots).

Do you foresee the 0.95.1a update (which I believe may have dropped today) giving you many compatibility problems?

[Yunru]

It's running fine for me.

[jocan2003]

Im having a crash related to the vulturefleetAI

ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.fs.starfarer.api.util.Misc.isShipRecoverable(Lcom/fs/starfarer/api/fleet/FleetMemberAPI;Lcom/fs/starfarer/api/campaign/CampaignFleetAPI;ZZJF)Z
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.fs.starfarer.api.util.Misc.isShipRecoverable(Lcom/fs/starfarer/api/fleet/FleetMemberAPI;Lcom/fs/starfarer/api/campaign/CampaignFleetAPI;ZZJF)Z
   at exerelin.campaign.fleets.VultureFleetAI.shouldRecover(VultureFleetAI.java:301)
   at exerelin.campaign.fleets.VultureFleetAI.addStuffFromShip(VultureFleetAI.java:262)
   at exerelin.campaign.fleets.VultureFleetAI.performSalvage(VultureFleetAI.java:224)
   at exerelin.campaign.fleets.VultureFleetAI$1.run(VultureFleetAI.java:307)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.ai.AssignmentModule.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.ai.ModularFleetAI.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleet.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseLocation.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.StarSystem.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignEngine.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignState.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Modlist:

"pantera_ANewLevel40",
  "automatedcommands",
  "lw_autosave",
  "bsgportraitspack",
  "better_deserving_smods",
  "beyondthesector",
  "capturecrew",
  "chatter",
  "timid_commissioned_hull_mods",
  "lw_console",
  "istl_dassaultmikoyan",
  "DetailedCombatResults",
  "diableavionics_arctic",
  "diableavionics",
  "forge_production",
  "sun_fuel_siphoning",
  "GrandColonies",
  "IndEvo",
  "Imperium",
  "timid_xiv",
  "lw_lazylib",
  "MagicLib",
  "Mayasuran Navy",
  "su_CarrierHullmod",
  "more_hullmods",
  "nexerelin",
  "wisp_perseanchronicles",
  "tahlan_scalartech",
  "stelnet",
  "superweapons",
  "tahlan",
  "vic",
  "audio_plus",
  "shaderLib"

New game, about 2hr in, i was in hyperspace, no idea if these information is worth anything but here it is.

[Histidine]

Alpha update; fixes the one known incompatibility with 0.95.1a, plus whatever changes I happened to be working on recently.
Barely tested, use at own risk.

Nexerelin 0.10.3g2

[Histidine]

Nexerelin 0.10.3g3

Fixes various new Starsector features likely not working, including slipstreams and sensor array false signals.