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starman13

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Re: Neutrino Detector Revamp
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2023, 09:42:21 PM »

I tried using the Neutrino Detector this patch and I agree, it's pretty bad.

The worst thing about it is the false positives. I'm burning Volatiles to locate POIs and then it turns out most of them aren't even there. This is especially annoying since for many players the Neutrino Detector will be an ability of last resort - you went all around the system and you didn't find what you were looking for, so you use the ability and... good luck chasing ghost signals all over the system.

So I'd like to just remove the false positives from it completely. Random ideas for a tradeoff:
 - A lot higher Volatiles use(currently it's almost nothing)
 - It's not permanent but rather works for 5 seconds and then shuts down, on a cooldown(so you have to remember where the signatures were)
 - Planets/stars create much wider signatures(forces you to move around the system more to check if you didn't miss something hiding "behind" celestial bodies)
 - Double the current sensor profile penalty

In case you haven't tried it already, this mod does most of what you're asking for: https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=21140.0

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Re: Neutrino Detector Revamp
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2023, 02:43:18 AM »

As it is, the Neutrino Detector seems to be offering the detection of otherwise hard to find loot, but as others have said, it's hardly useful in practice once you figure out how loots's being distributed. Not much of a reliable scavenging tool.

I suppose Neutrino Detector should enable you to find loot otherwise invisible to regular sensors and Sensor Burst. Especially since it increases your sensor profile and provides false readings, it already feels like an ersatz tool to uncover rare stuff. Using it in [REDACTED] systems should be an "at your own risk" kind of activity that comes with an unusual reward for those who brave it.
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Re: Neutrino Detector Revamp
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2023, 03:08:44 PM »

Actually this thing is in vanilla more useful and reliable than you think and actually fun to use. Here i use it to search and clean some systems in 30 minutes finding several lone orbiting things during this process. Note how i fly often in wrong direction first to identify the false positives. Usually i use 50 Volatiles to search about 4-5 star systems including huge blue star systems.
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