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[Brainwright]

I remember some time ago it was stated on the forums that toxic worlds would have organics if they were hot and volatiles if they were cold.

Since the last major update, I have not seen any toxic worlds spawn with organics, and I have seen hot worlds with volatiles.  This was well before I started using mods.

This is concerning because the mantle bore item can't be used on any world with organics, as only habitable worlds now spawn with organics, making the cryo sleeper a bit of a pain to use.

Also, I'm playing a young type sector right now, I've surveyed about a hundred planets, and none have organics.

I don't think this is working as intended.

[Amoebka]

I've seen Toxic worlds with organics, and Toxic worlds with all 4 resources. Temperature doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.

EDIT: Core worlds produce 9 organics. For cryosleepers you simply need a core in your revival facility (you want an alpha there anyway) and 90% accessibility.

[BCS]

Yes but it is very rare. Out of 15 Toxic planets in my current game only one has organics and four have volatiles. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with temperature; the one planet with organics is Xuthus which always has Extreme Cold and still rolled organics(this is why I picked the seed, as it makes Penelope's Star best system to colonize)

[Serenitis]

There are 2 types of toxic world, "cat_toxic" and "toxic_cold".
Both have identical rolls for volatiles, so you can find those on any type.
Only cat_toxic has any data for organics, so toxic_cold shouldn't be able to ever have organics.


The 2 types also have very different spawn conditions.
Specifically the hab "offset" range.

The cold variant (that can't have organics) has a much narrower band, so it will occur less frequently overall.

I wouldn't trust condition gen anecdotes from anything in the core worlds (this includes Duzahk, Tia & Penelope), as all of the planets there are a half-procgen and half-not. So the generation data may not work in the the same way.
I can't ever remember seeing a cold toxic world with organics "in the wild", and I've done a lot of exploring.

tl;dr - Toxics can have organics. "Hot" toxics will always have the possibilty of having them. "Cold" ones, not so much. Hot toxic is more common than cold.

[Igncom1]

Hot toxic is more common than cold.

Christ that made me belly laugh for off topic reasons!  I'm such a child.

[Candesce]

tl;dr - Toxics can have organics. "Hot" toxics will always have the possibilty of having them. "Cold" ones, not so much.

Toxics close enough to the star to have the Very Hot tag can't have them either, if I understand the CSV properly.

[Brainwright]

This has been a very fine discussion of the .csv, but has anyone actually seen a toxic planet with organics during the course of play for the past eight months?

[Salter]

I've seen Toxic worlds with organics, and Toxic worlds with all 4 resources. Temperature doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.

EDIT: Core worlds produce 9 organics. For cryosleepers you simply need a core in your revival facility (you want an alpha there anyway) and 90% accessibility.

Ive found that in the absence of a strong organics world to colonize, giving a mantel bore to Salamanca by selling it on its open market allows you to reach the full 10+ necessary for the full cryo-revival facility, provided you are friendly to the league and dont mind letting them supply all your organics.

[Aramoro]

This has been a very fine discussion of the .csv, but has anyone actually seen a toxic planet with organics during the course of play for the past eight months?

They are very rare, like 20 toxic planets got about 3 to 4 decent organics at most.
They should spawn on frozen planets too.

[cytokine]

has anyone actually seen a toxic planet with organics during the course of play for the past eight months?

For my first completed playthrough... one out of 14 toxic had organics. Not counting the core worlds. For second playthrough, with half sector explored... 2 out of 7 has it. So it does happen. Very rarely, it seems.