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Warlord-616x

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Police Search
« on: May 23, 2021, 08:27:48 PM »

Hey guys, so i just started a new campaign, and had been doing everything by the book thinking that would get the cops off my back for once, but i bought a whole ship on the normal market, but bought fuel and supply and a gun or two and i got a negative rep rating, then i get inspected 3 times in a row just going between 2 points where they find no contraband but i get 3 more rep hits?

so they are going to start shooting at me because i bought a few accessories? is there a mod that turns this off?
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Thaago

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Re: Police Search
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2021, 08:31:28 PM »

Are you leaving your transponder off? That shouldn't be happening...
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Re: Police Search
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2021, 08:33:25 PM »

nope and was just going from one planet to another. 8 rep hits apiece.

edit: im just going to save scum the whole thing.  thats really lame tho. i just started this campaign less then an hour ago.

and ya are there any mods that mess with this system? even before i started getting barraged it just feels like a constant way to whittle me down even when ive gone to the trouble of not letting them catch me when i did have the contraband, or im just randomly going about my business.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2021, 08:43:53 PM by Warlord-616x »
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Re: Police Search
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2021, 08:38:45 PM »

It depends on how much fuel and supply you bought on the black market :) If I remember right, if you buy/sell over 100k credit's worth on the black market then it's an automatic rep hit, but even below that, as your suspicion level rises yes patrols will go after you for inspections. You can see what your suspicion level currently is when you mouseover the black market.

The 30% tariff is basically an additional cost for not getting any inspections, while buying/selling on the black market is cheaper but risks inspections.
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Re: Police Search
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2021, 08:44:22 PM »

Still even with that much suspicion multiple inspection in a row shouldn't happen - I just did a trading run in system in Kazeron with a shortage running legal goods from black market to black market, and I got inspected maybe twice over several runs with like half a million value bought.
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Re: Police Search
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2021, 08:47:53 PM »

Yeah, multiple scans in a row shouldn't happen. IIRC it should time you out for something like a month if you get scanned, at least by patrols from that same colony. I could just about see two scans happening if there's a timing issue and something bugs out (I'm not sure that it can, just saying that I *could* see it happen), but what you're describing - that many scans in a row - doesn't sound right. If this is a modded run, maybe something else is messing with it?
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Re: Police Search
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2021, 11:19:21 PM »

hmm not sure, just running nex and a few faction mods, but thats about it.  the 2 planets in question (and heck the whole system for the most part as im playing on random map locations) were both the same faction so there was a high density of ships about, but ya brutal.  ive tried to abstain from using the black market entirely now, altho i still do out of habit from time to time or if i need a weapon or the odd ship, but seem to be able to expect the worst reaction from even minimal transactions now.   maybe i just need to keep adjusting, but ya seems pretty harsh...



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Re: Police Search
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2021, 12:34:22 AM »

It depends on how much fuel and supply you bought on the black market :) If I remember right, if you buy/sell over 100k credit's worth on the black market then it's an automatic rep hit, but even below that, as your suspicion level rises yes patrols will go after you for inspections. You can see what your suspicion level currently is when you mouseover the black market.

The 30% tariff is basically an additional cost for not getting any inspections, while buying/selling on the black market is cheaper but risks inspections.

As far as I understand it, not so much a hard cap of 100k on black market or anything, just that you need to be willing to also balance trading on open market with black market.  Since rep loss isn't calculated until you leave planet, be sure to buy enough stuff on open market to drop suspicion before leaving (assuming transponder on, if transponder off, go to town).  That generally prevents the auto rep loss from factions.  Just a huge pain 'cuz you gotta keep mousing over markets to check suspicion levels.  A more dynamic/less mousing over system would be nice.

Once you leave the market, gotta be ready to e-burn toot sweet, though.  I usually run a couple of ox's when doing this, people really underestimate ox's when smuggling (oxen?).  Plus, Mules with shield cargo holds also help, but sorta stupid since all the cargo calcs are hidden.  Just have to assume that some amount of cargo is considered "hidden" compared to total cargo space, and I guess game attempts to assign all illegal cargo to such "hidden" areas automatically.  Dunno if there is really more complicated code than that, though.

As a side note, why can't shielded cargo holds be found as a schematic?  Not disputing ripe for exploitation (probable reason), just seems like that is just not even an option to find a schematic for.  Mules and Oxen FTW?
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