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Golde

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Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« on: March 26, 2021, 10:10:16 PM »

I probably shouldn't have fought them so early on,

What's your success story and how did you deal with them?
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2021, 08:10:45 PM »

I had a huge fleet with 9 capital ships (1 paragon, 3 onslaughts, 2 atlas mkII, 2 hedgemony super carriers and one persian league capital) and a bunch of smaller ships such as missile cruisers and other good suppor ones. In the end only my persian capital and 2 smaller ships were left alive.
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2021, 09:07:30 PM »

They are truly evil, yup.
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2021, 09:12:23 PM »

Considering how people who are extremely knowledgeable about the game talk about them, I know for a fact that I will never be able to beat them so I won't even bother fighting them. Peace and love.
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2021, 09:31:49 PM »

Which redacted is a Dorito bag?
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2021, 09:41:49 PM »

You will totally know when you find them, lol.
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2021, 10:08:49 PM »

First encounter I had a cruiser-centric fleet with a whole bunch of smaller ships, figured I could deal with atleast one. Nope, didn't get a single hit in. Before the latest hotfix you could also use the in-battle Info button to bring up the codex which showed their stats and description of which the latter was especially ominous. They also have unlimited CR so there's no way to outlast them, and not even the Tempest can out outmanuever them. Seems like the only way to win is to bring a fleet of capital ships.

My only actual gripe though was the visuals. Looked very 3D with shiny reflections compared to the rest of the game with it's gritty pixelart. Might have been intentional though. 
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2021, 01:27:05 AM »

update, the dorito bags have successfully been dealt with,

I have developed a secret formula that could net you minimal losses if you play it correctly.
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Dorito bags have a ridiculously high ECM rating of 40% thus you will be at a deficit for the majority of the fight.

You'll need:
1 Khanquest (flagship)
2 Paragons (Elite variant or similar with built in hardened shields)
2 Heroins (broadsword only)
2 Drovers (broadsword only)
a few spare pairs of Centurians

send in your flagship + paragons.

distribute the paragons evenly among the snacking dorito bags and divide the field in half, it's time to reload if your flagship draws aggro.

deploy a pair of heroin, drover and centurian to escort each paragon

The dorito bags won't be able to outlast the paragon with the equivalent of 6 and some supporting broadsword wings each, but they also won't quite be able to finish them off.

You as the player will have to juggle between the fights both pressuring with rocket spam and chasing them down with maneuvering jets when the dorito bags are backing off to vent.

Substitute out as many centurians as necessary and never leave spare DP on the table.

then you kill them and win.
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« Last Edit: March 29, 2021, 01:29:36 AM by Golde »
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Re: Two crushed dorito bags decimates whole fleet.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2021, 07:32:41 AM »

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Managed it with a relatively small fleet thanks to Ziggurat flagship as mobile troubleshooter. Motes being able to near-stunlock enemies through their shields and clean up the uberfighters is essential, and the ship can phase on demand to dodge whatever shots threaten to absolutely ruin its day.

Fleet (this is after ship recovery, the last six ships in reserves were recovered losses, and I got sent back to my usual flagship):


Nia on Discord: "I definitely feel like Omega were balanced around having a Ziggy
which is.... not good"
Kinda agree, I'd prefer that beating them not require gimmicks
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« Last Edit: March 29, 2021, 07:50:14 AM by Histidine »
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