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[Exasperation]

As for Paradox games: Stellaris has just a conquest condition (which includes the option of vassalizing others or adding to a federation). It actually had some others in the past but they removed them for some reason. Personally, Stellaris late game is pretty boring and tedious, I would prefer to have something other than conquest to go for, but oh well (they do have "crisis" events in the late game that keep you busy).
I think Crusader Kings doesn't have a victory condition per se, I am not 100% sure.

For Starsector it's probably better to have conditions that are not quite fast to achieve as the game is naturally pretty slow (all this rep grinding, exploration and colony development will always take quite some time).

Stellaris has a timed score-based victory condition - you set a target year, and when that time arrives the empire with the highest score (including non-conquest factors like technology) is declared the winner - and you have the option of disabling it completely.  Conquest is certainly the easiest way to win, but not the only one.

I personally think having an option to disable victory conditions entirely would be great.  I don't play with Nexerelin to "win", I do it primarily so that I have a dynamic world to play in, where meaningful non-deterministic changes are occurring (there are other nice features too, but that's the main draw for me).  For me, the victory conditions are just unnecessary (albeit minor) annoyances which pop up and briefly interrupt my gameplay at some point, but which I otherwise ignore.

[ceemeeoh]

Yeah, don't get me started on how much I love the first three hours of every Stellaris game I start up and watch it collapse into micromanagement hell.

I personally think having an option to disable victory conditions entirely would be great.  I don't play with Nexerelin to "win", I do it primarily so that I have a dynamic world to play in, where meaningful non-deterministic changes are occurring (there are other nice features too, but that's the main draw for me).  For me, the victory conditions are just unnecessary (albeit minor) annoyances which pop up and briefly interrupt my gameplay at some point, but which I otherwise ignore.

This is also my (limited, four complete rounds of Nex) preference for Nexerelin: I want the dynamic interactions to be already in the game as it just feels "expected" of a tense, on-the-brink-of-conflict space sim, but you've stepped up and offered your interpretation of how it should go, and I enjoy it, so I play it.  But I don't care much for the "win" condition per se as it gets a bit hectic and clashes with the exploration portion as the first few hours give way to the "oh ***, gotta hustle" portion.  Again, my preference. 

Side tangent: one thing I enjoy from games is an inherent feel of uniqueness in every playthrough, whether from the collision of what I expect to happen vs what really happens, or from bugs in the game that somehow morph into "features," or from the tension that you cannot entirely predict.  Roguelikes do this with varying success, so do games that just happen to create dynamic systems with rough edges in their play (such as STALKER), and generative "story" style sim games like Rimworld and Dwarf Fortress.  Nex sort of facilitates this random-but-not-lol-random scenario where I'm mentally picturing the alliances everywhere I am and how e.g. I could find myself on the other end of the sector and suddenly Nachiketa flips and I gotta find the second-largest gas station in the galaxy.  Or my rival faction's home sector is close to capture and hmmmm how do I take advantage of this?

[Theurgist]

How do you form a special task force again? I managed it last game, and now I can't for the life of me work out how I did, lol

[Nesano]

I've observed factions having lots of "Task Forces" or "Special Purpose" fleets patroling around objectives and also just outside hyperspace at times, for whatever reason. Making factions churn out more domestic patrol fleets the more you raid their planets would be a much more organic way of going about it. It would also be a more sensible solution than making one slow fleet that ESP tracks the player, considering multiple fleets orbiting around a colony makes it effectively impossible to raid it without first dealing with the fleets.

Also, the vanilla mission mechanic where the fleet just spawns out of the ether isn't a very good way of going about it because, at least with your transponder off, they'd have no way of knowing it's you. Colony defense patrols wouldn't need to be concerned about that, though, because they'd be going after anything that doesn't have a transponder turned on.

I don't think spawning an in-system patrol fleet in response to raids is a replacement for vengeance fleets
– although it might be worth adding as its own feature nevertheless, to counteract player repeat raiding.

There's a couple of reasons for this:
- Vengeance fleets are created in response to all hostile player activity (including in hyperspace, or systems with no markets of the target faction), not just raids
- If one system spawns more patrols in response to player activity in the same system, the player just goes elsewhere; all faction systems could spawn more patrols, but that aggravates the annoying thing about NPCs generating fleets from nothing at will.

The two biggest problems with vengeance fleets is that they have psychic Oblivion Guard powers that aren't supported by any existing game mechanic and they never send vengeance fleets to kill fleets from factions declaring all-out war on them. Not to mention the fleets come from nothing. I've just been console-killing them, so it's only an inconvenience at the moment, but it'd be nice if it were replaced by a system that didn't violate the established rules of the game universe.

[Bartelemys]

Hello everyone, I had a question about the governorship system. I'm currently doing a Tri-Tachyon friendly run and thought that it would be nice to have more benefits from them before doing my own thing, so I looked into buying governorship. Now, it seemed quite attractive, as the current administrator mentioned a "130k income". I mean, that sounds great. Unfortunately, it's been several months now and I only get 25k ... it's four times less than my commission, yet cost me 1.2 million credits. At first, I thought about buying governorship for several planets and stations since they all had such a good income, meaning they would pay for themselves in less than a year, but now I just feel scammed. Did I misunderstand the numbers and the income sold to me was yearly and not monthly ? Or is there actually a problem somewhere ? Thanks in advance for the help you might offer.

[Histidine]

Hello everyone, I had a question about the governorship system. I'm currently doing a Tri-Tachyon friendly run and thought that it would be nice to have more benefits from them before doing my own thing, so I looked into buying governorship. Now, it seemed quite attractive, as the current administrator mentioned a "130k income". I mean, that sounds great. Unfortunately, it's been several months now and I only get 25k ... it's four times less than my commission, yet cost me 1.2 million credits. At first, I thought about buying governorship for several planets and stations since they all had such a good income, meaning they would pay for themselves in less than a year, but now I just feel scammed. Did I misunderstand the numbers and the income sold to me was yearly and not monthly ? Or is there actually a problem somewhere ? Thanks in advance for the help you might offer.

The income value given there is the contribution of the market's monthly income to the governorship price breakdown, which is 6 month's worth of income. Guess I should clarify this in the text.

One case where governorship is more useful is on planets you just conquered, since you get a 50% discount to the total price.

The two biggest problems with vengeance fleets is that they have psychic Oblivion Guard powers that aren't supported by any existing game mechanic and they never send vengeance fleets to kill fleets from factions declaring all-out war on them. Not to mention the fleets come from nothing. I've just been console-killing them, so it's only an inconvenience at the moment, but it'd be nice if it were replaced by a system that didn't violate the established rules of the game universe.

If you're console-killing them anyway, may as well turn off vengeance fleets in the config (set their size mult to zero, or turn off vengeance point generation).

Factions don't send vengeance fleets to other factions because there's no equivalent of the player fleet to target. They do attack other factions quite aggressively in any number of ways, up to sat bombing under the right circumstances.

The ESP isn't great but vengeance fleets rarely catch the player even with it and would become a complete non-threat without.
But I'll still probably replace them with the mission popup ambushes (and delay or hide the notification of a vengeance fleet spawning), since that only needs to "know" where the player is once instead of every time. (Transponder-off raids? They still find some evidence it's you (hence the rep loss), unless you're using the story point option for literally every raid, and they only send vengeance fleets if they're already hostile to you anyway. Further, in the planned scenario, who's to say it's specifically because of the raids?)

[Bartelemys]

Hello everyone, I had a question about the governorship system. I'm currently doing a Tri-Tachyon friendly run and thought that it would be nice to have more benefits from them before doing my own thing, so I looked into buying governorship. Now, it seemed quite attractive, as the current administrator mentioned a "130k income". I mean, that sounds great. Unfortunately, it's been several months now and I only get 25k ... it's four times less than my commission, yet cost me 1.2 million credits. At first, I thought about buying governorship for several planets and stations since they all had such a good income, meaning they would pay for themselves in less than a year, but now I just feel scammed. Did I misunderstand the numbers and the income sold to me was yearly and not monthly ? Or is there actually a problem somewhere ? Thanks in advance for the help you might offer.

The income value given there is the contribution of the market's monthly income to the governorship price breakdown, which is 6 month's worth of income. Guess I should clarify this in the text.

One case where governorship is more useful is on planets you just conquered, since you get a 50% discount to the total price.

Thank you for the clarification, that would mean that with a 130k income, it would take me five ingame years to get my 1.2 million back. That's ... awfully reasonable But really, in that case colonizing a planet myself is the better alternative. Governorship is a bit lacklustre in comparison, especially considering how much it actually cost. I'd say it's a welcome option nonetheless though. Makes tha game more engaging by adding choice.

[LeoSem]

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster.
I have an issue with the taskforce system. I wonder if it is a bug or if I am missing something: I created a taskforce on my Colony with a substantial fleet and an officer. It didn't last long... It is listed as "fleet destroyed" in the "Special Force" Intel panel. And I cannot disband it.

My issue is I cannot access the "create a taskforce" option with the station commander: it is not available because I cannot have more than one taskforce. Thus I can't "revive ship", and I can't disband my dead detached fleet to create a new one

Is there something I am missing here? Do I need to do smth else to access this option again? (In the worst case, can I delete this taskforce through the console command?)

[Nesano]

The two biggest problems with vengeance fleets is that they have psychic Oblivion Guard powers that aren't supported by any existing game mechanic and they never send vengeance fleets to kill fleets from factions declaring all-out war on them. Not to mention the fleets come from nothing. I've just been console-killing them, so it's only an inconvenience at the moment, but it'd be nice if it were replaced by a system that didn't violate the established rules of the game universe.

If you're console-killing them anyway, may as well turn off vengeance fleets in the config (set their size mult to zero, or turn off vengeance point generation).

Factions don't send vengeance fleets to other factions because there's no equivalent of the player fleet to target. They do attack other factions quite aggressively in any number of ways, up to sat bombing under the right circumstances.

The ESP isn't great but vengeance fleets rarely catch the player even with it and would become a complete non-threat without.
But I'll still probably replace them with the mission popup ambushes (and delay or hide the notification of a vengeance fleet spawning), since that only needs to "know" where the player is once instead of every time. (Transponder-off raids? They still find some evidence it's you (hence the rep loss), unless you're using the story point option for literally every raid, and they only send vengeance fleets if they're already hostile to you anyway. Further, in the planned scenario, who's to say it's specifically because of the raids?)

That'd be a worthy replacement at least until a better solution can be thought of and implemented. At least then the player can just watch out after kicking the hornet's nest instead of having to perpetually move away from a fleet that can't catch them but always knows where they are.

[Histidine]

How do you form a special task force again? I managed it last game, and now I can't for the life of me work out how I did, lol

Talk to a military-type base official on one of your colonies.

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster.
I have an issue with the taskforce system. I wonder if it is a bug or if I am missing something: I created a taskforce on my Colony with a substantial fleet and an officer. It didn't last long... It is listed as "fleet destroyed" in the "Special Force" Intel panel. And I cannot disband it.

My issue is I cannot access the "create a taskforce" option with the station commander: it is not available because I cannot have more than one taskforce. Thus I can't "revive ship", and I can't disband my dead detached fleet to create a new one

Is there something I am missing here? Do I need to do smth else to access this option again? (In the worst case, can I delete this taskforce through the console command?)

Hello and welcome!

To disband a destroyed task group, you need to be docked at a player colony (I'll remove the player faction requirement next version). This will add all the officers and ships (at zero CR and hull) back to your fleet.

[Mikomikomiko]

To disband a destroyed task group, you need to be docked at a player colony (I'll remove the player faction requirement next version). This will add all the officers and ships (at zero CR and hull) back to your fleet.

Was having this same issue. Thank you for this!

[LeoSem]

How do you form a special task force again? I managed it last game, and now I can't for the life of me work out how I did, lol

Talk to a military-type base official on one of your colonies.

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster.
I have an issue with the taskforce system. I wonder if it is a bug or if I am missing something: I created a taskforce on my Colony with a substantial fleet and an officer. It didn't last long... It is listed as "fleet destroyed" in the "Special Force" Intel panel. And I cannot disband it.

My issue is I cannot access the "create a taskforce" option with the station commander: it is not available because I cannot have more than one taskforce. Thus I can't "revive ship", and I can't disband my dead detached fleet to create a new one

Is there something I am missing here? Do I need to do smth else to access this option again? (In the worst case, can I delete this taskforce through the console command?)

Hello and welcome!

To disband a destroyed task group, you need to be docked at a player colony (I'll remove the player faction requirement next version). This will add all the officers and ships (at zero CR and hull) back to your fleet.

Thank you! that was bugging me (this task force had a beautiful Legion freshly refitted, the first I found in this game)

[Snosibsnob]

Spoiler

Anybody else having problems with the "Showdown" quest for Midnight Dissonant? I beat all of the Hegemony forces but the quest hasn't been completed or continued.

[close]

[Histidine]

Spoiler

Anybody else having problems with the "Showdown" quest for Midnight Dissonant? I beat all of the Hegemony forces but the quest hasn't been completed or continued.

[close]

It's possible one fleet got missed somehow. Try turning on devmode (easiest to do it in console) and press Ctrl+Z (toggles sensor mechanic) to see if any fleets are still lurking in the target system, the origin system or hyperspace.
(Note that you don't need to completely kill each fleet; due to a bug it counts as defeated if it takes any losses at all)

[InertFurry]

I've noticed that when I start an invasion, Starsector slows way the heck down (simrate and loading speed between sectors) whenever I initiate an invasion.