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Author Topic: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.  (Read 4172 times)

Julzjuice

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Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« on: January 29, 2015, 09:16:02 AM »
Hi everyone,

As I posted in the Java 64bit memory allocation thread, sometimes, when I try to quick save before a battle, get into the said battle, exit to the main menu while in the said battle to reload my previous quick save (I press the continue button), the saved game just wont load. It will get stuck at about 50-60 %. The music will start stuttering and turn on and off every 5 sec but the loading bar wont move anymore. My only option at that point is to force the game to close and when I go in the task manager, I realize that the game is not responding anymore and that ''Java 64 bit has stopped working and is not responding anymore''.

So yea... No choice but to close the game and restart it. I could deal with that if it only meant that it was a normal CTD for whatever reason, but the thing is that my save file gets corrupted. Every single time. I cannot count the number of times I had to start all over again because I could not load my save anymore. Even the backup save gets corrupted sometimes. I realized that it happens mostly when I am at mid game (around level 20-25).

Keep in mind that I am using SS+ with all the factions and no other mods listed outside the SS+ thread page. My game is running using the latest Java 64 bit version, I have 5 gigs of memory allocated to it and it uses them all (never seen a game so demanding on ram). I start the game with the .bat file and all the required modifications for it to work. My laptop is a gaming laptop (Asus G53JW-A1) with an i5 at a maximum of 3.2 GHZ and a GeForce 460M.

I created this topic because I am really desperate. Last night, my 5th game in a row got corrupted (was about level 26-27 and had just finished grinding rep with the balckrocks). I just cant stand it anymore... I dont want to start all over again. There must be a way to fix that and I am sure I am not the only one that has this problem... right?

Anyways, any help or insight on the matter would be so greatly apreciated!

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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 11:57:35 AM »
You might want to tell people how much memory you have set for java to use and also how much java is using when you are loading a save game
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 11:59:55 AM »
Hi - hmm.

1) Do you have an idea of how big the save files are when this happens? Not the zip itself, but the campaign.xml file inside the zip.
2) Does this only happen after extended play sessions? (i.e. over a couple of hours)
3) What does the log say after a corrupted game fails to load? The last couple hundred lines would be helpful. Actually, if you can upload a corrupted save somewhere, that could help too.


What you're saying about 5 gigs of memory not being enough is very suspicious and makes me wonder if there isn't a memory leak somewhere, possibly in SS+. I don't know how much more resource-demanding it is compared to vanilla, but 5 gigs seems highly excessive even considering that vanilla isn't exactly memory-efficient itself.

Another question is *when* the game is getting corrupted. I have a very hard time seeing how a failed load could possibly corrupt a save, as it doesn't open the save file for writing. More than likely, the corruption happened during the previous quicksave (or two), which would explain the backup save being corrupted as well, since the backup is just a copy at the previous save point, so if you generate a corrupted save twice, that'd overwrite the backup with the first corrupt save.

The good news is the next (0.65.2a) release contains some significant improvements to save/load performance, both speed and memory-wise. The bad news is that *if* this is due to a memory leak, the improvements would just push the failure point farther away.

For now, a way to ensure that you don't at least lose *both* the save and the backup would be to quickload immediately after you quicksave, and if that fails, restore from the backup in the save directory. I realize that's pretty far from ideal, of course.
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 03:24:12 PM »
Quote from: Alex on January 29, 2015, 11:59:55 AM
Hi - hmm.

1) Do you have an idea of how big the save files are when this happens? Not the zip itself, but the campaign.xml file inside the zip.
2) Does this only happen after extended play sessions? (i.e. over a couple of hours)
3) What does the log say after a corrupted game fails to load? The last couple hundred lines would be helpful. Actually, if you can upload a corrupted save somewhere, that could help too.


What you're saying about 5 gigs of memory not being enough is very suspicious and makes me wonder if there isn't a memory leak somewhere, possibly in SS+. I don't know how much more resource-demanding it is compared to vanilla, but 5 gigs seems highly excessive even considering that vanilla isn't exactly memory-efficient itself.

Another question is *when* the game is getting corrupted. I have a very hard time seeing how a failed load could possibly corrupt a save, as it doesn't open the save file for writing. More than likely, the corruption happened during the previous quicksave (or two), which would explain the backup save being corrupted as well, since the backup is just a copy at the previous save point, so if you generate a corrupted save twice, that'd overwrite the backup with the first corrupt save.

The good news is the next (0.65.2a) release contains some significant improvements to save/load performance, both speed and memory-wise. The bad news is that *if* this is due to a memory leak, the improvements would just push the failure point farther away.

For now, a way to ensure that you don't at least lose *both* the save and the backup would be to quickload immediately after you quicksave, and if that fails, restore from the backup in the save directory. I realize that's pretty far from ideal, of course.


Hi Alex,

First of all, thank you very, very much for taking the time to respond me. I will try to answer your questions as best as I can.

1- The file is 90 mb.
2- Yes it does, or at least every time it happened it was after a long play session. Maybe 1h30-2h.
3- Here are the last hundred lines of the error log. I noticed it does not display any error at all actually. It just stops loading at some point. It loads incrementally slower and slower until it just stops and crashes.

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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2015, 03:29:38 PM »
I forgot to put the requested save file, here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/smjuupk3gjrvnjg/campaign.zip?dl=0

I forgot to mention that I made a mistake, I allocated 4 gig to the game, not 5.
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 03:40:39 PM »
Wow, it stalled at 42%? Not even close to load this save. And you say you don't use Neutrino or Diable Avionics, because these two used to have some memory problems Just looked at the save and they aren't there... The file looks clean and isn't unusually heavy for a late modded game, I have saves in that range that load fine with 5GB allocated, so you could try that first.
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 04:27:09 PM »
Judging from the log, the problem is not enough memory to load the save, rather than any actual corruption of the save. I think. I'd actually expect an OutOfMemory exception at the end of the log, though - it's a bit odd that it just hangs.

90 megs seems like a *lot*, though.
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 11:46:07 PM »
I profiled the memory usage of SS+ (plus Blackrock Drive Yards, Citadel, Common Radar, Console Commands, Diable Avionics, Exigency Incorporated, Interstellar Imperium, Junk Pirates / ASP / PACK, Neutrino Corporation, Scy, Shadowyards, Simulator Overhaul, The Knights Templar, The Mayorate, and Version Checker) over a typical campaign session and found an astounding lack of memory leaks.  Post-GC heap usage was always around 260-280 MB.
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 11:50:35 PM »
Interesting, and good news! Although it doesn't jive with the issues the OP is experiencing, hmm.

If you don't mind: what's the campaign.xml size at the end of the session? And what does the memory use spike to during a load or a save?
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 12:01:11 AM »
Besides it isn't that big for a modded game: There is more than 700 fleets (including 260 ghosts one with size 0) and 52 markets in his game. 90MB is quite common once you have a dozens more factions than vanilla. Hence why we are VERY happy to see save improvements in 0.65.2  ;D
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 12:45:27 AM »
Quote from: Alex on January 29, 2015, 11:50:35 PM
Interesting, and good news! Although it doesn't jive with the issues the OP is experiencing, hmm.

If you don't mind: what's the campaign.xml size at the end of the session? And what does the memory use spike to during a load or a save?

I forgot to save.  However, the campaign.xml does start at 16 MB with SS+ and 60 MB with all those mods active.  I remember profiling the save process a few days ago for memory usage, and recorded about 700 MB for SS+ alone (GCable memory included) and about 2650 MB with a number of mods added in, near the start of the game.  These were done on a game session that was loaded from a save, not a new game scenario.

This presents a linear, 1:1-proportional relationship between campaign.xml size and working heap memory needed to load the game.  A 90MB file should take about 3950MB of heap space, so it's not much of a stretch to imagine his VM crashed.
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 12:05:41 PM »
Hmm, alright. If all this bears out, we should be good (or, at least, much better off) at the next release. Speaking of that, back to work :)
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Re: Corrupted Save files after quicksaving.
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2015, 02:00:05 PM »
Gentlemen,

I fixed the problem. At least, I think. It was a memory problem. It needs more than 4 gig to run SS+ and all the mods it seems. I tried to change the memory allocation to 5 gig, and after 2 tries (dont know why), it finally loaded and now it loads every time.

All in all, man... 5 gig of ram for this game seems like a lot! Even with all those mods enabled!  ;) Dont know if its like that only for me though! But anyways, I am so glad I can finally continue my game! Thanks a whole lot guys for responding to me and assisting me with this matter! Hope it helped someone else!

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