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[IGdood]

I notice wings just seem to go after a target and not make any effort to dodge slower projectiles.  Point defense I understand is hard to avoid.  Anyone have a different experience?

[Phenir]

Question is, should they? A shot that hits a fighter is a shot that, with some exceptions, won't hit a ship. I'd rather a talon face tank a reaper than any of my ships.

[mark.sucka]

Question is, should they? A shot that hits a fighter is a shot that, with some exceptions, won't hit a ship. I'd rather a talon face tank a reaper than any of my ships.

***! Sir, we've lost countermeasures!

This is Halo 2, they've lost countermeasures.  I'm going in.....AAAAAAAAH!

[AdamLegend]

I think they do not, but they absolutely should.

[Siffrin]

Part of their job is to take hits for your ships, I don't see why they should try to evade. All I see is this leading to funky behavior where wings try to prolong their lives and end up not firing their weapons (particularly hardpoint weapons) before dying shortly afterwards. Self-preservation is the last thing I want for my wings when I need an interceptor to eat a reaper for me.

[TaLaR]

No, fighters don't dodge incoming fire on purpose. They may avoid some shots as side-effect of their maneuvers, but that's about it.

Having them dodge would make a much more natural way to balance PD vs non-PD (projectiles speed) than the sometimes offered introduction of chance to hit and such nonsense. And fighters definitely do have enough acceleration to dodge most projectiles. But, having fighters dodge would probably be a massive increase in hardware demands to process AI, so I can see why Alex doesn't even consider this an option.

[IGdood]

Question is, should they? A shot that hits a fighter is a shot that, with some exceptions, won't hit a ship. I'd rather a talon face tank a reaper than any of my ships.

***! Sir, we've lost countermeasures!

This is Halo 2, they've lost countermeasures.  I'm going in.....AAAAAAAAH!

You'd think from a lore perspective your average crew won't be that inclined to sacrifice unless they eject before face tanking a projectile...

[Siffrin]

You'd think from a lore perspective your average crew won't be that inclined to sacrifice unless they eject before face tanking a projectile...

No I don't think that way at all because wanting gameplay changes for lore reasons is silly. Most ships have self-preservation because they are valuable and need to survive, fighters respawn and thus don't need any of that.

[PixiCode]

No I don't think that way at all because wanting gameplay changes for lore reasons is silly. Most ships have self-preservation because they are valuable and need to survive, fighters respawn and thus don't need any of that.

Gameplay > Lore whenever possible, fighter behavior is one of those I'd agree with. However, sometimes I do want fighters to care about their own survival. Depending on the build I do not want fighters to make themselves exposed to danger though, due to how replacement rate works.

The current system is good as-is I think, but since replacement rate exists sometimes you do want fighters to be on the cautious side a bit.

[mark.sucka]

Question is, should they? A shot that hits a fighter is a shot that, with some exceptions, won't hit a ship. I'd rather a talon face tank a reaper than any of my ships.

***! Sir, we've lost countermeasures!

This is Halo 2, they've lost countermeasures.  I'm going in.....AAAAAAAAH!

You'd think from a lore perspective your average crew won't be that inclined to sacrifice unless they eject before face tanking a projectile...

Air Force One (Harrison Ford) movie reference that went over everyone's heads.  US fighter pilot trying to help protect AF1 under attack from Russian dissidents, and hero makes a self-sacrifice when he realizes AF1 has used up all its flares and can't stop an inbound missile from hitting it.  Iconic scene, London Has Fallen basically did a homage to the scene with Marine 2 self-sacrificing for Marine 1.

[Lawrence Master-blaster]

Part of their job is to take hits for your ships, I don't see why they should try to evade.

When an enemy ship fires at a fighter, they already drew fire away from your ships. Whether the shot hits the fighter or not is irrelevant.

I also find the idea that fighters exist to take shots from main enemy guns absurd. Even if the timing works out and fighters engage JUST as your ships do, which almost never happens, wasting DP on carriers just so your ships can avoid a tiny amount of shield damage from enemy ships is ridiculously inefficient.

[Siffrin]

I also find the idea that fighters exist to take shots from main enemy guns absurd.

Part of their job

[Sandor057]

The amount of people who think of fighters as meatshields is too damn high. At most, for immersion's sake, make LP fighters ignore incoming ordnance. The rest should at least have the survival instinct of an average koala (which is not much to begin with).

[AdamLegend]

Bombers should try to evade when returning to the carrier.

[Lawrence Master-blaster]

Part of their job

Can you point me to where it says in the game, or Alex mentions out out of game, that part of the job of fighters is to take shots from main ship weapons?

Because if not, imma have to put that under "Source: my ass".