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[EsotericaFerret]

I feel like I'm being real dumb here and/or am having some sort of mod conflict, but it won't let me build in any of the experimental mods? I'm not sure what's going on here. Any information is helpful. I did see something about Progressive S-Mods, which I think I have, but I'm not sure if that's the reason?

Edit: I'm just dumb. Please disregard.

[rawkhawklives]

Tiny update for 0.8.6:
- Changed engine cosmetic mods to apply the campaign engine changes immediately on install and/or when settings are saved

Engine cosmetics required a save/load to get applied in the campaign layer properly. With 0.8.6, the need to reload was eliminated, but they still required a reinstall in some cases like customizing the said cosmetic mods. Finally with 0.8.6a, the need to reinstall the cosmetic mod is also eliminated; any changes will be reflected in the campaign immediately.

By god, they can't be stopped.

[Desregaurd]

Is there a way to make it so that the AI uses some of the experimental activated systems like Temporal Shell as often as possible whenever it's available? It seems like it will currently only use it if an enemy ship comes too close.

Reverse deployment doesn't have the same issue, the AI will always use it the second it's available.

[lyravega]

By god, they can't be stopped.

Muhahahaha!

Is there a way to make it so that the AI uses some of the experimental activated systems like Temporal Shell as often as possible whenever it's available? It seems like it will currently only use it if an enemy ship comes too close.

Reverse deployment doesn't have the same issue, the AI will always use it the second it's available.

I will take a look when I'm going over all of the system retrofits, but I don't think I can adjust it. The only thing I'm doing is changing the hull spec's system; ship will utilize it depending on the system's own AI parameters. Even if I can adjust it, it may have unforeseen ramifications. Anyway, I'll take a look as I've said =)

[Desregaurd]

Ah, alright. I thought you had made your own versions of those hullmods, but if that's not the case then my request could screw with Temporal Shell for every ship that has it, whether or not it was added from this mod.

I think there's another mod that allows you to set ship behaviors in combat through hullmods, like forcing ships to vent at high flux. Maybe it'd be simpler to approach this from that side, since I'm pretty much asking for a ship to always use an Activateable System whenever it's available.

[Dredger]

Having tonnes of fun with the agency this mod gives in ship design. Great work!
I am getting a crash though while loading a save after salvaging and modifying Matriarch from Imperium.

Spoiler

ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.RuntimeException: Slot id [CS_AS_WS0005RSM] not found on hull [ii_matriarch_default_D]
java.lang.RuntimeException: Slot id [CS_AS_WS0005RSM] not found on hull [ii_matriarch_default_D]
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.renderWeapons(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.renderSingle(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetView.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleet.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseCampaignEntity.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.graphics.LayeredRenderer.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseLocation.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignEngine.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignState.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

[close]

Progressive S-Mods was in modlist and the ship had a D-mod if it helps.

[bilbois]

why cant i stuff my converters on top of my adapters that would be sick is it because balancing issue or coding issue that cause crash or some sort

[XyttheElite117]

So I might want to report a small bug here.

There are certain mods out there that has ships and hullmods in them that costs 0 OP. For example, the Mayasuran Navy adds the Skysplitter (M) variant ship to the game. It has two 0 OP hullmods that can change the ship's system, and the ship's built-in weapon, like a railgun or a pulse laser gatling gun. When I apply the Experimental Hull Modifications hullmod on that ship, one of the Skysplitter's hullmods disappears forever, but this is only the case when I apply an autofit to the Skysplitter with the EHM hullmod installed

[ryujinblade]

 hey lyravega, hey is this mod meant to only allow one mod of certain types? as at the moment i can only install one exp mod at this time, is there some notes i missed somewhere or am i just bad at the game? love your mod!

oh! also was wondering if it is possible for a hullmod request? apex design collective mod has a built in hullmod for one of their cruiser class carrier craft called expanded wings, basically doubles the amount of craft per wing, is that something that could get added? im a huge huge sucker for carriers, nothing comes close for me haha, hopefully im not nagging.

[lyravega]

Having tonnes of fun with the agency this mod gives in ship design. Great work!
I am getting a crash though while loading a save after salvaging and modifying Matriarch from Imperium.

Spoiler

ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.RuntimeException: Slot id [CS_AS_WS0005RSM] not found on hull [ii_matriarch_default_D]
java.lang.RuntimeException: Slot id [CS_AS_WS0005RSM] not found on hull [ii_matriarch_default_D]
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.renderWeapons(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.renderSingle(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetView.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleet.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseCampaignEntity.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.graphics.LayeredRenderer.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseLocation.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignEngine.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignState.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

[close]

Progressive S-Mods was in modlist and the ship had a D-mod if it helps.

Yeah, it's something I did wrong while updating stuff underneath. You need to use Discord WIP version and enable a debug option that allows you to load. Adapted slots aren't meant to be converted. https://discord.com/channels/187635036525166592/1115980328415268884/1171483227375018057

why cant i stuff my converters on top of my adapters that would be sick is it because balancing issue or coding issue that cause crash or some sort

Kinda "balance" (tm) issue. Gotta stop somewhere :d

hey lyravega, hey is this mod meant to only allow one mod of certain types? as at the moment i can only install one exp mod at this time, is there some notes i missed somewhere or am i just bad at the game? love your mod!

oh! also was wondering if it is possible for a hullmod request? apex design collective mod has a built in hullmod for one of their cruiser class carrier craft called expanded wings, basically doubles the amount of craft per wing, is that something that could get added? im a huge huge sucker for carriers, nothing comes close for me haha, hopefully im not nagging.

Considering I add launch tubes, such a hullmod would be way overkill I think. I'll investigate when I'm able though. As for the other thing, one mod of certain types; only one shield/engine cosmetic, shield retrofit and mass weapon retrofit.

So I might want to report a small bug here.

There are certain mods out there that has ships and hullmods in them that costs 0 OP. For example, the Mayasuran Navy adds the Skysplitter (M) variant ship to the game. It has two 0 OP hullmods that can change the ship's system, and the ship's built-in weapon, like a railgun or a pulse laser gatling gun. When I apply the Experimental Hull Modifications hullmod on that ship, one of the Skysplitter's hullmods disappears forever, but this is only the case when I apply an autofit to the Skysplitter with the EHM hullmod installed

That kinda sounds like those hullmods change the hull spec. Not compatible with those ships in that case. Aside from that, I'll take a look.

PS: I'm 99% more active on Discord. I just come here to drop new versions and read stuff once per month or something. If urgent, contact me on Discord.

[ryujinblade]

Having tonnes of fun with the agency this mod gives in ship design. Great work!
I am getting a crash though while loading a save after salvaging and modifying Matriarch from Imperium.

Spoiler

ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.RuntimeException: Slot id [CS_AS_WS0005RSM] not found on hull [ii_matriarch_default_D]
java.lang.RuntimeException: Slot id [CS_AS_WS0005RSM] not found on hull [ii_matriarch_default_D]
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.renderWeapons(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.renderSingle(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetMemberView.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleetView.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.fleet.CampaignFleet.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseCampaignEntity.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.graphics.LayeredRenderer.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.BaseLocation.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignEngine.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignState.render(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

[close]

Progressive S-Mods was in modlist and the ship had a D-mod if it helps.

Yeah, it's something I did wrong while updating stuff underneath. You need to use Discord WIP version and enable a debug option that allows you to load. Adapted slots aren't meant to be converted. https://discord.com/channels/187635036525166592/1115980328415268884/1171483227375018057

why cant i stuff my converters on top of my adapters that would be sick is it because balancing issue or coding issue that cause crash or some sort

Kinda "balance" (tm) issue. Gotta stop somewhere :d

hey lyravega, hey is this mod meant to only allow one mod of certain types? as at the moment i can only install one exp mod at this time, is there some notes i missed somewhere or am i just bad at the game? love your mod!

oh! also was wondering if it is possible for a hullmod request? apex design collective mod has a built in hullmod for one of their cruiser class carrier craft called expanded wings, basically doubles the amount of craft per wing, is that something that could get added? im a huge huge sucker for carriers, nothing comes close for me haha, hopefully im not nagging.

Considering I add launch tubes, such a hullmod would be way overkill I think. I'll investigate when I'm able though. As for the other thing, one mod of certain types; only one shield/engine cosmetic, shield retrofit and mass weapon retrofit.

So I might want to report a small bug here.

There are certain mods out there that has ships and hullmods in them that costs 0 OP. For example, the Mayasuran Navy adds the Skysplitter (M) variant ship to the game. It has two 0 OP hullmods that can change the ship's system, and the ship's built-in weapon, like a railgun or a pulse laser gatling gun. When I apply the Experimental Hull Modifications hullmod on that ship, one of the Skysplitter's hullmods disappears forever, but this is only the case when I apply an autofit to the Skysplitter with the EHM hullmod installed

That kinda sounds like those hullmods change the hull spec. Not compatible with those ships in that case. Aside from that, I'll take a look.

PS: I'm 99% more active on Discord. I just come here to drop new versions and read stuff once per month or something. If urgent, contact me on Discord.

thats fair. took a minute to figure out how to ge the launch tubes to work, didnt realize they straight up became a weapon slot haha, thats pretty unique and awesome

[steve1592]

So I changed the version in the json to .97a but when I hover over experimental hullmods when refitting a prometheus I get this error/crash:

Code

2517551 [Thread-2] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'java.awt.Color com.fs.starfarer.api.util.Misc.getStoryDarkBrigherColor()'
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'java.awt.Color com.fs.starfarer.api.util.Misc.getStoryDarkBrigherColor()'
	at experimentalHullModifications.misc.ehm_tooltip$header.<clinit>(ehm_tooltip.java:72) ~[?:?]
	at experimentalHullModifications.hullmods.ehm.ehm_base.addPostDescriptionSection(ehm_base.java:96) ~[?:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.impl.StandardTooltipV2$12.createImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.impl.StandardTooltipV2Expandable.create(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.impl.StandardTooltipV2Expandable.beforeShown(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.showTooltip(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.O0Oo.super.new(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.O0Oo.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.g$Oo.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.g.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.O.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.coreui.refit.ModPickerDialogV3.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.O.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.newui.L.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.O.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.newui.o0Oo.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.dispatchEventsToChildren(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.o000.processInputImpl(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.ui.thissuper.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignState.processInput(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source) ~[port.common_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher.super(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source) ~[port_obf.jar:?]
	at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1575) [?:?]

[Princess_of_Evil]

Well, yes. EHM is pretty solidly expecting specific game versions.

[XyttheElite117]

Well, yes. EHM is pretty solidly expecting specific game versions.

Yeah not every mod works with just a simple version change. I hope EHM gets updated so I can have fun with overengineered :3

[steve1592]

Dang it, I need this mod and just did the painstaking effort of getting my 150+ modlist to .97. I guess I'll play other games for awhile. Love this mod.