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Thaago

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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2012, 10:36:53 AM »

hound
Isn't that just like playing on easy mode? :P

This might sounds kinda dumb but... how do you solo in a hound? Maybe it just doesn't match my playstyle but it seems kinda impossible to take on anything more than another frigate or 2. One meet up with a wasp wing and you're pretty much dead, right?
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2012, 11:03:06 AM »

the key to soloing anything is picking your battles, though.

I've taken out a lasher and a hound in one go before. Full health.
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 01:15:26 PM »

Ah fair enough. I guess my point would be why solo in a hound instead of anything else? But if people find it fun then rock on!
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2012, 01:17:10 PM »

Haha a valid point. Hound's main strength lies outside of combat.  :)  It is a fun challenge, though.
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2012, 01:54:23 PM »

Haha a valid point. Hound's main strength lies outside of combat.  :)  It is a fun challenge, though.

Then is it just me who sucks in piloting capitals?

I got my shiny conquest swarmed by hounds and utterly obliterated.

And now I only pilot cruisers, no capitals anymore...........
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »

Hmm did you have integrated targeting? I find its absolutely necessary for capitals. If you have it though you should have heavy weaponry slamming into Hounds from beyond their firing range. Of course, it really depends on how many and hounds are slippery enough to dodge a lot of fire. :P
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 02:50:02 PM »

What? I never take ITU with a Conquest. The Conquest is fast and maneuverable enough that it can and should get relatively close to do work. Plus its broadside encourages circling maneuvers or passes, not static standoffs.
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2012, 03:00:58 PM »

Ah, let me explain: I find it absolutely necessary for capital ships that have to engage multiple smaller targets. The ITU makes their tactics of "swoop in, fire, swoop out" much less effective because you have a much longer fire time and also because much of that fire time they can't fire back. The Conquest is fast and maneuverable enough to go up against other caps without it but not, at least in my experience, swarms of fighters/frigates/destroyers. I was responding to being swarmed by hounds but should have been clearer. :)
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 03:07:25 PM »

I don't trust the computer to do anything but waste ammo at those ranges, and I fly with an elite crew. In my opinion, unless you're willing to pay for a goatload of tactical lasers, the Conquest just isn't a good swarm stomper. It's a dragonslayer of sorts, going after big fish. It needs to be supported,  which is why I don't fly it solo.

I prefer ships like the Enforcer, Lasher, Tempest, and Hammerhead for that.
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2012, 03:59:59 PM »

Yeah I also feel this way.
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 06:14:46 PM »

Hopefully that'll change though. A reduced time on target for ballistics would do wonders for gunnery.
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 06:44:47 PM »

I'm in love with the Lasher at every fleet size, so yeah. Two harpoons, expanded missile racks, as many MGs and dual MGs I can fit, accelerated shields...
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 10:17:48 PM »

Yeah I've been playing a similar build. It's pretty dang nasty.  :D
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2012, 08:55:23 AM »

Then is it just me who sucks in piloting capitals?

I got my shiny conquest swarmed by hounds and utterly obliterated.

And now I only pilot cruisers, no capitals anymore...........

Its not just u that sucks at cap ship flyin.   :'( 
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Re: Solo ship builds
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2012, 10:59:30 AM »

In my opinion, unless you're willing to pay for a goatload of tactical lasers, the Conquest just isn't a good swarm stomper.

Yeah. A solo Conquest has to take into account what kind of fleets it can catch, and then outfit very exactly to those threats.
Hmm, depends on whether I can get PD lasers and four Mjolnirs.

I'd go PD everywhere with ITU, plus two grav lasers, railguns, and quad Pilums - the swarm ends up being very much like a fighter escort. Definitely needs at least armoured mounts + bonus gyros, as it doesn't have a full shield.

If I could get Mjolnir, I'd use those and railguns. If I couldn't get PD, I'd go with tac lasers and integrated PD AI. If I couldn't load down with Mjolnir, I'd check to see how effective the hypervelocity's EMP was at keeping things locked down, and use Hephaestus in the large mounts.

Depending on how much the defensive hull mods cost, I might not even use large ballistics at all. Pretty much overkill against frigates, and doubtless the real issue will be fighters.

Actually I think I might go try this now.
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