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Eagle-Class Thoughts
« on: March 13, 2012, 04:59:14 PM »

Probably one of my favorite cruisers, I got my first one in campaign and I never left it.  Since I was low on money, I attached 2 assault chainguns and 1 heavy autocannon to the front, 2 harpoon missiles on the sides, and 2 LR PD lasers at the back.  I filled the rest of the ordnance points with flux and vents.  The heavy autocannons overload the ship while the assault chainguns chew through the armor with the harpoons as finishers.  This served me very well, I could just pound down on slower ships and overload and whack down larger ships with the harpoons.  This is a nice setup for a low-cost, good performance cruiser.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2012, 05:45:14 PM »

Eagle is a great ship, people have a beef against it because it can't beat an Aurora head to head. But that's hardly a fair fight considering the difference in fp.
For my eagles I put 3 railguns, 8 tac lasers, pair of those homing torp launchers, pd ai, turret gyro, accelerated shield and rest vents. 3 railguns will kill shield in no time, then just let the 6 forward lasers bore the hull. Throw in torps if target is overloaded or venting
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2012, 05:57:38 PM »

I sorta lost faith in the Eagles when I lost one to a Lasher on its first battle. My mistake for thinking it could be left alone. I swapped it out for a pair of lashers (one with harpoons, one with salamanders), piloting the harpoon one and letting the other escort it. Made a lot more kills. I could actually take on an Aurora, for one.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2012, 06:01:15 PM »

I have to admit, I'm not very fond of the Eagle, but I love its aesthetics. I tried to like it, but I just suck with it and kept exploding  :P

Any advice on how to use an Eagle? :) You guys seem to know how to handle it well. At the very least I know from experience that I shouldn't let the AI fly one...
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2012, 06:18:24 PM »

Always keep the front facing towards the enemy.  That's where the shields are, and that's where the most firepower is facing.  3 medium balistic, 3 medium energy, and 2 medium missiles can do a lot of damage when used correctly.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 06:23:43 PM »

Always keep the front facing towards the enemy.  That's where the shields are, and that's where the most firepower is facing.  3 medium balistic, 3 medium energy, and 2 medium missiles can do a lot of damage when used correctly.

Good advice. I can see how that much firepower can be deadly, but what sort of loadout do you use when faced with fighter/bomber wings, though? Most of my losses in an Eagle were in the hands of a bomber wing while I'm pounding away on their bigger ships.

I guess that's what makes the Aurora well-received; it can take fire from all sides and stay alive. :)
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 06:40:30 PM »

I have to admit, I'm not very fond of the Eagle, but I love its aesthetics. I tried to like it, but I just suck with it and kept exploding  :P


I cant really stand the pointless forward mounts - they just dont seem to do anything.. Id really love to see them moved back a bit and made into turrets, even if the arcs arent amazing
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 07:11:48 PM »

The eagle has been growing on me.  Currently with 3 railguns on front, 3 pulse lasers, 3 tac lasers, 2 harpoons or atropos torps, 2 rear pd lasers accelerated shields and I think integrated targeting unit.  I think accelerated shields is really important for ships like the eagle.

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I cant really stand the pointless forward mounts - they just dont seem to do anything.. Id really love to see them moved back a bit and made into turrets, even if the arcs arent amazing

They work quite well for railguns, but I haven't had success with much else.  
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 07:15:13 PM »

The Eagle is where I find myself drawing the line between ships I can fly and ships that are so painfully slow that I have to let the AI control them.  The Eagle is the latter.

It has some of the same issues that the Brawler has, really.  A lot of firepower and good shields, but it's ALL forward-locked and the ship itself is incredibly slow.  I watched a pair of Tempests absolutely destroy one simply by staying behind it and blasting it.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 07:20:50 PM »

mine


it has no PD weapons but it does fine without them. i stay with ships that do have PD.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2012, 07:22:55 PM »

mine

Mines pretty close to this. I REALLY like heavy mgs b/c they are so light on flux and heavy on kinetic damage. Downside being you have to get close.

Oooo I threw triple hvel drivers on once. That was ridiculous. You can overload ANYthing in two volleys it felt like, haha. And the range is amazing.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 09:00:09 PM »

An Eagle I played on a Random Battle mission had the front Heavy MG setup and it was great.  Shields were pretty much useless..  The only issue is getting the damn Eagle close enough to use the MGs on other ships.  It's not exactly speedy.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2012, 09:05:18 PM »

Yeah.  :/  There's where the support comes in handy, an enemy pinned down by interceptors or frigates is much easier to chase down. That or you just take augmented engines and don't use all your weapons.
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 06:02:18 AM »

I really dislike the 3 graviton beams on the Eagle, the Autopulse/HIL's were OP no doubt but I honestly don't see any use for the Graviton beams, they have good range but that's about it. Even doing kinetic damage they do nothing to a ships shield larger than a frigate, and it has 100 DPS, is this intended or are they just really underpowered
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Re: Eagle-Class Thoughts
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 06:49:21 AM »

I really dislike the 3 graviton beams on the Eagle, the Autopulse/HIL's were OP no doubt but I honestly don't see any use for the Graviton beams, they have good range but that's about it. Even doing kinetic damage they do nothing to a ships shield larger than a frigate, and it has 100 DPS, is this intended or are they just really underpowered
Pulse laser > Graviton Beam ... nuff said. They are powerful enough against cruisers but can also provide pd against bombers and wreck frigates. They also makes for some awesome pew pew moments.  ;D
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