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[Chairman Meow]

Hi, I wanted to try the game again but am running into some FPS problems.
When I launch the game I get 9-12 FPS in the main menu.

At first I thought it was the shaders mod and all the other mods I installed but I also tried it with a clean install.

If I launch the game in a non native resolution I get ~56 fps in the main menu.

What I tried so far:
I'm on a notebook so first I checked if the nvidia GPU is being used, it is - check
Reinstalled the latest Java version and moved it to the game folder/jre - check
Set ram usage to 4 gb - check
disabled extra visual effects in windows (I read that enable desktop composition can cause this problem) but that did not help either.

Did anyone run into this problem and fixed it?
I found multiple threads with the same problem but non of the suggested fixes worked for me so far.
Am I missing something?

Running windows 10.

I hope someone can help me out.
Thanks in advance.

[Alex]

Are your graphics drivers up-to-date? It might be possible that you ended up with old drivers after upgrading to windows 10.

Can you run the game with good performance in actual non-borderless-windowed fullscreen mode, btw? I'm not quite clear on that from the thread title.

[Chairman Meow]

sorry, wrote it in a hurry.
the performance is bad when I launch in full screen 1600x900 and in borderless windowed 1600x900.
If I launch fullscreen in a lower resolution fps stay around 10.
If I launch borderless windows at a lower resolution I get around 60 fps.

drivers are up to date.
starting to think it's related to some windows desktop effects or something but I couldn't figure it out yet

thanks for the fast reply by the way!

[Dark.Revenant]

Can you post your computer's specifications or model?

It sounds like you are rendering in software.

[Chairman Meow]

Sure, happy about any help I can get!

it's an ideapad u430.
dxdiag info about the important components: (kept the intel hd card in there, nvidia card is used for all applications though)

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[Debido]

Sounds like the old 'need to manually configure nVidia to use the discrete graphics card when running a specific application problem'

https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/19612/nvidia-optimus-always-using-intel-gpu.html

[Chairman Meow]

Thanks for your reply.
I actually did that first and it also shows that java / starsector is running on the nvidia gpu.
The good thing is in one of the comments from that link you posted it says:

To confirm this I have compiled my own 32 and 64 bit programs that use OpenGL and saw that the 32-bit program uses my NVIDIA card and the 64-bit program does not.

So I went ahead and disabled the integrated Intel GPU but no dice, same problem :/

I will keep trying and let you guys know if I figure something out.

[Debido]

So you're running the 64-bit JRE?

Maybe have a look at

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12990110906#7

[Chairman Meow]

Yeah, sorry.
Running 64bit win10 and using java 64bit.

By now I think it's a driver problem with windows 10 and the intel drivers for the integrated gpu.
seems like opengl is not correctly handed to the nvidia gpu so it switches back to software/cpu.

not sure why it works in windowed mode if I use a lower resolution than "windowed fullscreen".

thanks again to everyone who is trying to help, if I ever figure it out or a driver updated just fixes it I'll let you know.

[Debido]

When you add the application in nVidia, do you had the star sector launcher program? Or the Java executable in your 64 bit Java run time environment folder?

[Chairman Meow]

Both, I actually set the nvidia as default for all applications.
It also shows java running on the nvidia GPU while I'm ingame, it even says "java (starsector 0.65.2a RC2)"

not sure why it falls back to software mode though (

[validfrom]

I have pretty much the same problem with windows 10 and starsector. I am using a Lenovo y410p with a nVidia GT 750M 2GB card and 8GB of ram. It very well at over 60 FPS when I was still using windows 8, but ever since I upgraded to windows 10 I've been getting really low FPS in game and in the menu. I've tried changing the nVidia control panel settings to force applications to use the dedicated card but the problem persists. This is with the base game without any mods.

[Alex]

Hmm. The only thing that comes to mind is that NVIDIA still has some driver issues to work through for windows 10, unfortunately.

(On a related note, ugh, Windows 10. Been all downhill since 7, if you ask me.)

[validfrom]

It's too late for me to revert back to the relatively more stable windows 8 so I guess I'll just have to wait until Nvidia fixes things on their end. Hopefully, everything will be sorted out before 0.7 releases with all the fancy new features!

Anyways, thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to playing this amazing game again 

[Chairman Meow]

remember, you can still play it at full performance using windowed mode and a resolution that is not equal to your desktop resolution (probably needs to be lower than your desktop resolution).

Just in case you wanna play right away

Sure hope this gets fixed with a driver update soon, don't think the devs can do anything about it.