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Author Topic: [0.97a] Nexerelin v0.11.1b "Clausewitz Protocol" (update 2024-02-11)  (Read 3039286 times)

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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1425 on: June 16, 2017, 07:29:11 AM »

Sorry for not uploading the screenshot that has the bug I mentioned. Had to send my PC to the shop for maintenance and upgrades.

Anyway here it is:
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This only happened after capturing the Dekyuu Mining station (which created my own faction) and also has the same bug. Not present in other systems except Galatia.
Thanks, reproduced and fixed!

The tooltips in game setup suggest that you should be getting a small income/salary periodically. I seem to remember this from older versions as well, and it was great to avoid painful death spirals.

Is this a setting that has to be enabled or was it entirely removed?

It's still in by default, but just like in .72 you won't get it unless you're part of a faction. So you'll have to start as part of a faction. Or if you picked free start: join a faction once your rep is high enough, or conquer some world to found your own faction. Then you'll get your monthly income as well as partial ship insurance.

???

I started with a faction, and had a commision by default. I thought that meant I joined the faction by default.

How do I join a faction?
If you start with a faction you do auto-join it at start.

Salaries are paid on the 1st of every month. I just tried new games in both Corvus and random mode, and got paid on 1 Apr 206 fine; if you're not getting it, provide starting options and I'll see if I can reproduce.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1426 on: June 16, 2017, 11:41:45 AM »

Got a crash when invading this one planet.

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436433 [Thread-4] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.NullPointerException
java.lang.NullPointerException
at exerelin.campaign.fleets.ResponseFleetManager.spawnResponseFleet(ResponseFleetManager.java:67)
at exerelin.campaign.fleets.ResponseFleetManager.requestResponseFleet(ResponseFleetManager.java:213)
at com.fs.starfarer.api.impl.campaign.rulecmd.Exerelin_NotifyInvasion$2.advance(Exerelin_NotifyInvasion.java:98)
at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignEngine.advance(Unknown Source)
at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.CampaignState.advance(Unknown Source)
at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source)
at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
436674 [Thread-10] INFO  sound.oo0O  - Creating streaming player for music with id [028.ogg]
436675 [Thread-10] INFO  sound.OooO  - Playing music with id [028.ogg]

It's reproducible. The planet is called Suffering in the Joy Star System in Corvus Mode. All other planets and stations can be invaded just fine. All mods are fully updated. The planet has 0 stability and only a black market with nothing else. Something happens with the response fleet that makes the game crash.

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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1427 on: June 16, 2017, 05:49:34 PM »


If you start with a faction you do auto-join it at start.

Salaries are paid on the 1st of every month. I just tried new games in both Corvus and random mode, and got paid on 1 Apr 206 fine; if you're not getting it, provide starting options and I'll see if I can reproduce.

Yea, I think wasn't paying attention. Also I thought it was weekly. I suppose I get that for not playing for ~2 years.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1428 on: June 16, 2017, 07:50:10 PM »

These independent fleets are having a very hard time returning to the planet:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyHff59045I&feature=youtu.be

There are so many fleets, that they cant return to the small planet. ( a size 7 market, surrounded by a magnetic field )
Nexerelin has fleet limits, so the game wont go crazy over memory, but this is still weird.

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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1429 on: June 17, 2017, 02:16:21 PM »

will Nexerelin ever go back to its roots of starting with a fleet and taking 1 planet then growing and fighting like Exerelin? I miss that style
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1430 on: June 17, 2017, 05:57:27 PM »

will Nexerelin ever go back to its roots of starting with a fleet and taking 1 planet then growing and fighting like Exerelin? I miss that style

Free start in the vanilla faction selection screen is literally this, isn't it?

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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1431 on: June 17, 2017, 06:17:27 PM »

will Nexerelin ever go back to its roots of starting with a fleet and taking 1 planet then growing and fighting like Exerelin? I miss that style

Pretty sure that's the Free Start option you are talking about.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1432 on: June 17, 2017, 07:32:19 PM »

I believe Lopunny is talking about the time in the old Exerelin where all factions started with one fleet with a bunch of Atlas and Valkyries and took over the nearest uninhabited station.

Something I liked to do was take out a nearby faction fleet so I could have the system entirely to myself from the very start.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1433 on: June 17, 2017, 11:25:28 PM »

how do i mine asteroids through? there's no asteroid object to be mined in this update
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1434 on: June 18, 2017, 03:04:57 AM »

what should i do? its giving me this error :/

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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1435 on: June 18, 2017, 03:31:31 AM »

what should i do? its giving me this error :/
If you didn't already try to fully delete your nexerelin folder and redownload it I would start there.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1436 on: June 18, 2017, 04:16:29 AM »

You are on Starsector 0.8, which is out of date and not supported. Download and install 0.8.1.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1437 on: June 18, 2017, 06:48:26 AM »

oh, my bad i didnt saw there was an update XD
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1438 on: June 18, 2017, 01:12:41 PM »

oh, my bad i didnt saw there was an update XD
Get version checker then! It will tell you if you boot up the game and you have a mod or the game is out of date
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Re: [0.8.1a] Nexerelin v0.8.1 "Apple Pie from Scratch" (update 2017-06-12)
« Reply #1439 on: June 18, 2017, 02:06:25 PM »

Finally got around to playing this in 0.8.1 for the past week.

Started a game in Corvus mode, as the Player's "followers" faction.  Took the high level military start with Eagle, Sunder, and Brawler.

Started in Corvus, and the first major thing I did was take over the Pirate planet next to Jangala, made possible with help from passing Hegemony patrol.

Later, went around on a killing spree and took over Kanta's Den.  Then, I got the idea that Luddic Path may be the easiest faction to attack because nearly all of their ships have Safety Override, and I can win by outlasting them.  Also because most of their cruisers are the pathetic Colossus II.  I struggle to kill SIM Hammerheads while piloting Colossus II, so I thought I could try to kill them off.  I managed to capture both Pather markets, and they were gone.

Later, went around killing off more pirates and taking their bases.  Since the start of the game, I have been slowly but steadily losing money.  Salary helps slow it down, but not quite enough.  I did a few more income sources.  Some time later, I get sucked into an alliance, then it declares war on Tri-Tachyon.  I need to deal with an enemy I cannot win in a fair fight, so I had to pick my fights wisely.  Managed to take over a few small more bases.

Then, I stumbled on a mission to conquer the biggest supply depot planet in Aztlan.  Reward was worth about four or somillion.  I got my fleet, started an invasion, left the planet immediately so I can avoid the response fleet, ran away, then came back to invade the now undefended planet.  Succeeded and got the big pay day.

Next, slowly went to eliminate Tri-Tachyon, and did it after some difficulty.  Next, attack the Luddic Church and wipe them out.  After that was done, I had only one non friendly faction left:  Sindrian Diktat.  After various events, they became hostile, and I started taking over their planets.  However, one planet I wanted to conquer but was too hard at the time:  Sindria.  Size 7 and military.  Needs lots of marines.

Some time later, I get another multi-million credit mission to conquer Sindria from the League.  I had to scrounge from my old bases for marines.  Eventually, I got my marines, but when I came back for Sindria, I had a problem.  The conquests for previous Sindrian planets and evading all of their patrols left the system crawling with huge defense fleets that would ruin my fleet.  No way I could afford all of the ships myself for the meat-grinder.  Then I got an idea, hire two or three defense fleets worth 120k or so each and have them follow me.  For the few fleets I could not kill myself, I brought my friends along.  I get in a fight, I get help.  I deploy only one capital while the hired help serve as escorts.  The help gets cut down to pieces, but better them than me.  The best 120k I ever spent.  My followers probably lose about a million credits worth of ships, but I only pay 120k for hiring them.  I repeat this a few more times.  The attack of Sindria was a total meatgrinder - for my hired help and the Diktat.  Eventually, I managed to capture Sindria with only a day left to spare on the money, and I more than made up the money spent.  After that, Askonia was all mine, and I splurged on deploy all to kill all remaining detachments.  With only a few markets left for Diktat, and the League competing with me for more planets, it was only a matter before the Diktat was eliminated and the game won.

I could have killed everyone, but I was tiring of the game, and I wanted it to end. Persean League was the only major player left with somewhat fewer markets than my followers, and Hegemony was down to three.

I did not fight more than a few bounties, and I did not bother searching for Remnants and their fighter chips.

Overall, Nexerelin plays much as I remember from the 0.7x days.
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