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Author Topic: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5b "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-09-17)  (Read 2249426 times)

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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4800 on: August 09, 2022, 10:17:11 PM »

I'm sorry if I just missed it or so but...Does  Nexerelin allow the conquering/building of orbital stations? I know it let's you conquer other populated planets. Orbital Stations though? Unsure about that.

Have played with the mod a bit, got a decent run but yeah.

Btw, this may be tangent? Idk.  But, can the default story be completely skipped? Like, not completed skipped as the mod makes it but skipped skipped like the player has nothing to do whatsoever with it. Can it be doable to do just that? To make the Galaxia Academic Question completely alien to the player until they hear some news and perhaps investigate it thus actually prompting and starting the storyline fresh but not forced? Kinda weird to me, that start and perhaps even weirder with the mod, albeit as far as I can tell, it generally by default just follows the default storyline but just with less benefits like no monthly income from the Academy unlike the standard game. I hope i made that clear enough to at  the very least be understood.
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4801 on: August 10, 2022, 04:20:34 AM »

>Does Nexerelin allow the conquering/building of orbital stations?
Yes/no except for supply stations.

This allows you to build stations:
https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=17094.0


Is there no option to start the tutorial with the vanilla core world?
E: "Vanilla" more like non random core world plus Mod content/factions...
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4802 on: August 10, 2022, 07:36:53 AM »

Is there no option to start the tutorial with the vanilla core world?
E: "Vanilla" more like non random core world plus Mod content/factions...

if i'm understanding you correctly, you're looking for the vanilla tutorial start? in nexerlin thats available in the 'custom start' options, you may have to toggle to the next page to find the custom start option
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4803 on: August 10, 2022, 08:20:00 AM »

Well, thank you, I hope this helps:
Btw, this may be tangent? Idk.  But, can the default story be completely skipped? Like, not completed skipped as the mod makes it but skipped skipped like the player has nothing to do whatsoever with it. Can it be doable to do just that? To make the Galaxia Academic Question completely alien to the player until they hear some news and perhaps investigate it thus actually prompting and starting the storyline fresh but not forced? Kinda weird to me, that start and perhaps even weirder with the mod, albeit as far as I can tell, it generally by default just follows the default storyline but just with less benefits like no monthly income from the Academy unlike the standard game. I hope i made that clear enough to at  the very least be understood.
Or maybe it does not.  :o
E: It probably does not, there goes my "idea" and your solution (which I did not manage to find, guess I am blind lel).
« Last Edit: August 10, 2022, 08:28:52 AM by Dadada »
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4804 on: August 10, 2022, 08:28:29 AM »

2 ways you could go about it -
Enable tutorial start, which is a natural lead-in to the quest

or

Enable story skipping, but add more credits and ships to lend credence to the fact you've done the quest

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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4805 on: August 14, 2022, 02:40:55 AM »

Been using this mod for quite a bit, I'm enjoying it.

However I'm kinda curious is there a way to break alliances up between AI? As going to the special options only allows me to join the alliance that the AI faction is already in.

I looked through the campaign.xml and there's an option to set the alliance as dissolved but the game still seems to think the both AI factions are still part of it.

The code looks something like this in the campaign.xml
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<NexAllyIntl z="338213" tt="-55666512000000">
<faction1 cl="Faction" ref="15790"></faction1>
<faction2 cl="Faction" ref="689"></faction2>
<allianceId>a313a757-fdd2-47ec-be7b-74ea219031aa</allianceId>
<allianceName>Greater Hegemony</allianceName>
<isDissolved>true</isDissolved>
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I tried setting the relations for both AI Factions in the console to be 0 for each other as well, they didn't leave the alliance either.

Tl;dr Want to form an alliance with AI Faction that consists only of my faction and the AI faction but can't dislodge AI Faction from old faction for some reason.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2022, 02:44:54 AM by Belfast »
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4806 on: August 14, 2022, 03:47:17 AM »

If it's Iron Shell (which "Great Hegemony" would suggest), then setting their relationship with each other to 0 won't work - there relationship can't drop below 50,maybe even 100.

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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4807 on: August 14, 2022, 06:02:27 AM »

If it's Iron Shell (which "Great Hegemony" would suggest), then setting their relationship with each other to 0 won't work - there relationship can't drop below 50,maybe even 100.

Ahh I see, thanks!
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4808 on: August 14, 2022, 06:06:02 AM »

In 0.10.5 the console command LeaveAlliance should also forcibly break them up (previously it didn't work on permanent alliances).

Btw, this may be tangent? Idk.  But, can the default story be completely skipped? Like, not completed skipped as the mod makes it but skipped skipped like the player has nothing to do whatsoever with it. Can it be doable to do just that? To make the Galaxia Academic Question completely alien to the player until they hear some news and perhaps investigate it thus actually prompting and starting the storyline fresh but not forced? Kinda weird to me, that start and perhaps even weirder with the mod, albeit as far as I can tell, it generally by default just follows the default storyline but just with less benefits like no monthly income from the Academy unlike the standard game. I hope i made that clear enough to at  the very least be understood.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to say :-X

If you don't use the skip story option, the Academy just sits there and you can start the quest chain by going there at any time.
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4809 on: August 14, 2022, 11:45:57 AM »

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this so far, but in the current defend the Nexus quest line, if you follow the Hegemony task force to their staging system and talk them into letting you go, and your fleet is too large to normally disengage, there is no new dialogue option to leave, and you will need to use another story point to leave via special maneuvers. I don't think this was intended behavior.

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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4810 on: August 15, 2022, 09:00:14 AM »

So.. I think I just "finished" the showdown quest? I lost the fleet, they went off and died I guess, no idea where I was supposed to defend. But is that it? I get a small cash reward and it's over? Nothing else from Midnight Dissonant?
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4811 on: August 19, 2022, 06:42:18 PM »

May I ask what to do/config to make mod faction actually be truly able to disable on start? I found the mod factions are still there even though I've disabled them when starting a new game. I guess generating systems and the markets with script may ignore nexerelin settings and force the faction's system and market to spawn?
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4812 on: August 19, 2022, 07:31:33 PM »

May I ask what to do/config to make mod faction actually be truly able to disable on start? I found the mod factions are still there even though I've disabled them when starting a new game. I guess generating systems and the markets with script may ignore nexerelin settings and force the faction's system and market to spawn?

Which mod faction? Is there any reason you can't uncheck the mod in the mod manager?

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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4813 on: August 20, 2022, 03:56:47 AM »

In two games the faction I am with just does not seem to like expanding, meanwhile other factions are grabbing stuff left and right, any idea why this might be?

And is there any way I can help them to actually start doing something usefull?
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Re: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.5 "Sierra Nevada" (update 2022-07-17)
« Reply #4814 on: August 20, 2022, 09:38:40 AM »

May I ask what to do/config to make mod faction actually be truly able to disable on start? I found the mod factions are still there even though I've disabled them when starting a new game. I guess generating systems and the markets with script may ignore nexerelin settings and force the faction's system and market to spawn?

Which mod faction? Is there any reason you can't uncheck the mod in the mod manager?
Yes, which faction? Some mods may not have been set up to obey the "don't generate handmade systems in random sector" behavior.

In two games the faction I am with just does not seem to like expanding, meanwhile other factions are grabbing stuff left and right, any idea why this might be?

And is there any way I can help them to actually start doing something usefull?
If you mean the player faction specifically, it generally doesn't do much on its own, that's what you're for.
If it's a commissioning faction, depends on things like their economic production (for generating invasion fleets; this part also relies on having enemies to begin with) and whether they're set to launch colony expeditions. Which faction were you working with?

So.. I think I just "finished" the showdown quest? I lost the fleet, they went off and died I guess, no idea where I was supposed to defend. But is that it? I get a small cash reward and it's over? Nothing else from Midnight Dissonant?
That's currently the last mission, yeah.

It should probably straight-up fail the mission if you lose track of the fleet completely. But I'd like it there to be (rare, to be sure) situations where the player doesn't have the fleet in sight, but can make a guess where it's going and complete the mission that way. Hmm.
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