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Author Topic: [0.95.1a] Nexerelin v0.10.3i "SpaceLand Battle" (update 2021-12-17)  (Read 1907748 times)

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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3f "SpaceLand Battle" (hotfix 2021-11-22)
« Reply #4230 on: November 23, 2021, 06:59:33 PM »

Howdy, been doing some mining recently and have noticed pirate/derelict fleets have a tendency to spawn and then beeline for me while having either emergency or sustained burn active. Normally this is fine and I can deal with it.

Recently, I mined in my own system I've recently settled (Might as well do something while I babysit), and the game threw a Remnant fleet with multiple cruisers at me, which is much less ok, as the only cruisers I have in my fleet right now are an Apogee and a bunch of Atlas' made for cargo hauling.


Is this an intended feature?
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3f "SpaceLand Battle" (hotfix 2021-11-22)
« Reply #4231 on: November 25, 2021, 02:32:45 AM »

Howdy, been doing some mining recently and have noticed pirate/derelict fleets have a tendency to spawn and then beeline for me while having either emergency or sustained burn active. Normally this is fine and I can deal with it.

Recently, I mined in my own system I've recently settled (Might as well do something while I babysit), and the game threw a Remnant fleet with multiple cruisers at me, which is much less ok, as the only cruisers I have in my fleet right now are an Apogee and a bunch of Atlas' made for cargo hauling.

Is this an intended feature?
If you're mining in a system that has/had Remnants in them, then Remnants are a likely faction for the mining 'harassment' fleet. But the fleet may be too strong in this case.
In the upcoming hotfix the fleet will have a 30% smaller base size if it picks Remnants.
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3f "SpaceLand Battle" (hotfix 2021-11-22)
« Reply #4232 on: November 25, 2021, 03:37:49 AM »

Ah! Thought it was this mod but wasn't certain since I didn't start mining until very recently.

As for Remnant... there's a low level warning beacon nearby and I've occasional seen Remnant in systems near systems with beacons, so that might be it.

Thanks for the quick response.
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3f "SpaceLand Battle" (hotfix 2021-11-22)
« Reply #4233 on: November 25, 2021, 04:44:56 AM »

Dear diary, today i lost in a land battle tutorial... damn i trash at this mod XD
Now i'm in war with independet
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4234 on: November 26, 2021, 01:13:38 AM »

Hopefully this is the last fix update.

Nexerelin v0.10.3g
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Changelog
* Mining harassment fleets are 30% smaller when they're Remnants
* Fix NPC ground units stealing player's marine XP when generated
* Fix crash after purchasing governorship of a market with scheduled NPC construction
* Fix a minor GUI issue with unofficered merc ships

Also, check out my fanfic! It was inspired by one of my ground battles.
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4235 on: November 26, 2021, 05:12:28 PM »

Just to be sure, Histidine, the recent updates are cool to install into saves that were previously using 10.3's older versions, yeah? I know NPC invasions are a big deal but I'm not sure if that'd break "older" saves.
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4236 on: November 26, 2021, 07:02:20 PM »

Yeah, they'll work.
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4237 on: November 28, 2021, 11:40:18 AM »

Hello everyone!

So I have a small... issue. Not sure if it is intended mechanic or can actually be considered some sort of an exploit but... I was able to send Defense fleet to hostile colony.

As you can guess it technically results with orbital blockage. Target's defensive fleets get eliminated, their station gets disabled and the trading convoys either keep running away or get destroyed.

At the same time, it isn't seen as any sort of hostile act (compared to sending invasion fleets) even if it does result with colony being basically left defenceless for few weeks/months, and thus ready to be easily invaded or raided by basically anyone (who isn't hostile toward the "defensive" fleet).

I would like to apologize in advance if someone has already pointed out this issue/feature before
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4238 on: November 30, 2021, 01:42:31 PM »

is it intended that nexerelin spawns a dorito hunter seeker fleet just for spotting a hypershunt? kind of makes all giant star planets extremly unappealing for early to midgame exploring

and seems kind of odd too, considering you dont need to interact with the shunt to have said fleet spawned?

please rework the spawning conditions
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4239 on: November 30, 2021, 04:26:29 PM »

Hello everyone!

So I have a small... issue. Not sure if it is intended mechanic or can actually be considered some sort of an exploit but... I was able to send Defense fleet to hostile colony.

As you can guess it technically results with orbital blockage. Target's defensive fleets get eliminated, their station gets disabled and the trading convoys either keep running away or get destroyed.

At the same time, it isn't seen as any sort of hostile act (compared to sending invasion fleets) even if it does result with colony being basically left defenceless for few weeks/months, and thus ready to be easily invaded or raided by basically anyone (who isn't hostile toward the "defensive" fleet).

I would like to apologize in advance if someone has already pointed out this issue/feature before
It's sort of intended in that I decided not to restrict targeting to non-hostile markets, but may not be balanced (too cheap to do, or perhaps too effective against weaker colonies?) in the current state.

is it intended that nexerelin spawns a dorito hunter seeker fleet just for spotting a hypershunt? kind of makes all giant star planets extremly unappealing for early to midgame exploring

and seems kind of odd too, considering you dont need to interact with the shunt to have said fleet spawned?

please rework the spawning conditions
It's a deliberately added feature, though not necessarily a good one.
The fleet does scale to yours (up to a point), so it should be beatable at least sometimes, and if it isn't, story point evade + e-burning will allow an escape.

Still I may need to think of better spawn conditions. Perhaps just make it not spawn for sufficiently small player fleets?
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4240 on: November 30, 2021, 04:37:34 PM »

why not make interacting with the thing a spawning condition? would acutally make sense then considering what the fleet is saying to you when they catch you

or, in the same vein as some wrecks in remnant sectors can activate dormant remnant fleets, make the doritos dormant until provoked? like, place those fleets in the gravity wells in hyperspace, so you know the system contains a hypershunt?, OR put unique warning beacons there
« Last Edit: November 30, 2021, 04:42:42 PM by Maethendias »
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4241 on: November 30, 2021, 09:28:32 PM »

Still I may need to think of better spawn conditions. Perhaps just make it not spawn for sufficiently small player fleets?

Seems a reasonable compromise.  Enjoying my game as is right now, but am still interested in trying out the souped up dram explorer run at some point after new game update drops.  Kinda not worth it if almost guaranteed death from finding the hyper shunts... but perhaps base it on DP (or whatever that hidden fleet stat is) instead of ship count, having it just not spawn for a fleet of 5 or smaller seems likely to just result in exploitation by those that know (bring 6 kickass ships!) and complaints by those who don't...
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4242 on: December 01, 2021, 05:24:16 PM »

i just discovered something funny:

the faction traits of hegemony and tri tachyon regarding ai use are swapped

tri tachyon now dislikes ai, and the hegemony really LOVES others using ai cores apparently XD

probably an oversight?
« Last Edit: December 01, 2021, 05:26:26 PM by Maethendias »
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4243 on: December 01, 2021, 10:36:08 PM »

Sounds like a random relations thing. By default Hegemony has "dislikes AI" and TT has no AI-related traits.
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Re: [0.95a] Nexerelin v0.10.3g "SpaceLand Battle" (fixes 2021-11-26)
« Reply #4244 on: December 02, 2021, 04:34:25 PM »

Sounds like a random relations thing. By default Hegemony has "dislikes AI" and TT has no AI-related traits.

oh ye, that must have been it

didnt know it would affect traits aswell lol
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