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[ValkyriaL]

MUCH improved, it looks like an actual ship made from metal now, and not a plastic toy. =)

Why must things be asymmetric? Symmetrical things are much more beautiful. 

[TheHappyFace]

well it's an opinion thing i guess.
maybe humans think symmetry is beauty as is the case with how we look at others,
but i think asymmetrie in for example sprites draws our attention and makes us wonder why.
while we probaply won't figure out the reason for my assymetry addiction lets look at my new sprite and the improved version of my last one.

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the first one (and new one) is a small frigat.
with its cardboard armor and a shield generator made by a five-year-old.
it is the cheapest ship existing (not counting other mods and fighters) and is as expensive as a talon wing.
it has 3 small universal mounts and a small frontal shield.
his low armor and hull make it rely mostly on his maneauvrability for defence,
although this frigat is the weakest in his class it shouldn't be underestimated,
since the fleet will likely use a massive amount of these cheap ships to overwelm you.

ps. the second one is a destroyer

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[FiCho]

@TheHappyFace: wooow  I wish I could sprite like u, and make ships without editor... actually I tried and it was horrible. I think your assymetry addiction is fine cuz it gives more interesting design, so will u make a faction out of it or what??? 
and here is my ship again, I tried to shade it a bit more. if it turns out okay I'll make another tomorow...

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[TheHappyFace]

thanks ^^... probaply will make a faction just need to see if i can focus myself long enough on it.

i can see you made lots of progress on that one ship.
- try making the sides in the middle (white part) a little darker.
- maybe add some more coloring to it. like make parts of it a little red or grey  , maybe add some painting lines or random plating.
- make the lights as explained in my light/shading guide at the spritersthread (signature for link).
now the light (i guess they are light) dont actually give any. make it so the parts around the light are lighten up aswell.
trust me if you keep up the work you'll be as good as me or even better .
ask for help (as you allready did) ,check the guides in the spriters thread, let your sprites get commented on and keep practicing
and wo knows maybe i download your mod in a while 

[ValkyriaL]

If you open the spoiler i had on the comment where i said your ship looked like plastic, you will see how far i got with nothing but kit bashing. you already make ships better than i do since you make yours from scratch + kit bashing parts.

How about you test my mod Happyface? need someone to verify that it's balanced and what needs to be balanced further, how do i allow you to download it? do i put it on a site or something?

[FiCho]

@TheHappyFace: yea, I tryed doing it as explained in your light/shading guide... I guess I just need more practice and yes those r supposed to be lights, but the thing is I don't think it would be a good idea to make the lights glow cuz there are so many lights on the ship, I don't want my ship to look like a firefly 
and thanks I really appreciate your opinion...
@ValkyriaL: well those r some pretty neat ships and I'd say kit bashing is also really hard, I tried it... believe me u don't want to see what I came up with.  Haha stop flattering, I know Im not that good 

[Pelly]

@FiCho, I personally really like your spriting style, (i like it more than TheHappyFace's,sorry) and with more practice i'm sure you will be very very good.

[TheHappyFace]

@FiCho, I personally really like your spriting style, (i like it more than TheHappyFace's,sorry) and with more practice i'm sure you will be very very good.

no worries i won't kick in your door and shoot you for that. ^^
Could you be more specific at what you dont like about the style?
this could be quiet interresting for me.

[FiCho]

@TheHappyFace: I hope this one is better, I tried as best as I could  
so this is supposed to be frigate, I guess...

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[ValkyriaL]

I'm getting the same plastic feeling from this one, it looks good, but try to get it more like the other one you posted. because that one was  a masterpiece after you spent more time on it.

[TheHappyFace]

great design!
but indeed it does need those little changes you have done with the other one.
good luck!

[FiCho]

better???  Im going to sleep now so I'll try to fix it more tomorow...

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[ValkyriaL]

Much better, add even more lighting and its good to go.

[Erick Doe]

While this total conversion mod already has its own thread, I'd like to get some specific feedback on the sprites that can be found:

HERE

What do you like or dislike about them? What would you like to see (changed)? Keep in mind that it is a total conversion with its own artstyle that does not have to work alongside vanilla Starfarer.

[TheHappyFace]

its always hard to comment on a total conversion...
first off i want to say i have great respect for people making such mod.

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things i dont really like (its just my opinion)
- they look smooth and have simple shapes. this can look really great but in this case i got to admit they look a bit like plastic.
- black outlines, in my opinion outlining is great and neccesary for a clear image especially with such small amount of pixels ,but i always try to make the outlines not black but just a darker version of its main colour.
this to give a more realistic image.
- shading things that are within the sprite, it seems you forgotten or something. things that are closer to the light source (above-front in vanilla) tend to cast a shadow on the surface below.
- some details on sloping surfaces dont seem to slope making them look a bit awkward. like some of the damage marks.
- details like small scratches and bolts are missing ,although this is really something which is part of your style.
- you dont need to make the engine parts glow. ingame this is done automaticly.
- you tend to simplify the shading too much. sometimes it lokslike you put just one shading on the whole ship (dark-light-dark with some smoothing) while some parts that are round dont have a individual shading making them look a bit flat and awkward.

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okay just one more thing.
i commented on a vanilla perspective ,cause this is the only way i can truly comment on a sprite (i need some reference).
i am pointing things out i would improve to make them look more vanilla.
you can decide to leave a part or even all of the commented points as it is.

good luck with further spriting!
if anything is unclear just post it!