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[Thule]

Okay, did one more pass to the grimnebulin.
Helmut thanks for the idea, looks better now i guess.

[Ahne]

cool ship, massive lowtech brawler appearance!

[MShadowy]

Thanks for critique, @xenoargh, here are some attempts to fix the issues:

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Looking quite strong now; the strength of the designs asymmetry definitely feels better now with that additional bit on it's starboard side.  Overall it's a great concept, and I look forward to seeing more.

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Hot damn I really like this ship; great shape, fine details and a nice, brutal feel.  Good stuff.

[CrazyDave]

Yeah okay well... trying out a new style for the Alfa class. I'm generally unhappy with the way my current ships are so I figured i'd experiment with something different.



Yes, i know its not finished, but im absolutely awful at greebling and figured i could use some input before i start butchering it. :/

[HELMUT]

To be honest CrazyDave, i don't see the problem. Your previous ships worked very well, no reason the new ones won't. If you're really desperate to get more greeble, just copy/past some random pipes/tubes from vanilla and you're good.

Personally i'm just waiting to see how your style is working on bigger ships. Your Latun destroyer sounded like a good start, if a bit long for its class. Why coming back on the Alfa? Your last version where you broke the straight lines felt finished to me.

[Tartiflette]

Personally I far preferred your style when the ships were like this (after some played a bit with them, they had a nice Neutrino vibe to them). Now it looks like you cranked the contrast, shininess and saturation to 11, and everything lack subtlety, making the sprites ultimately look, well, not that great.

[Protonus]

To be honest CrazyDave, i don't see the problem. Your previous ships worked very well, no reason the new ones won't. If you're really desperate to get more greeble, just copy/past some random pipes/tubes from vanilla and you're good.

Personally i'm just waiting to see how your style is working on bigger ships. Your Latun destroyer sounded like a good start, if a bit long for its class. Why coming back on the Alfa? Your last version where you broke the straight lines felt finished to me.

*cough*


Also, +1.

[Ryxsen1421]

I agreed with Tartiflette.

[Lcu]

@CrazyDave Personally, i agreed with HELMUT, but i think your ships would be much better if you reduced the saturation just like xenoargh's/MesoTronik's edit in the link Tartiflette posted. Maybe that because i rarely color the whole of my ships nowadays.



Unrelated : I got productive today and managed to make 2 fighters and 1 bomber.
 

[CrazyDave]

Wow okay. That's a whole lot of positive feedback O.o

So... you mean more like this?

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I prefer the middle one personally, but the perhaps i need to redo my detailing to look more like this one (i like it a lot).


SCALE DAVID! SCALE!
Man i really need to stop starting new ships when my current ones still aren't finished.

[Nanao-kun]

Wow okay. That's a whole lot of positive feedback O.o

So... you mean more like this?

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I prefer the middle one personally, but the perhaps i need to redo my detailing to look more like this one (i like it a lot).


SCALE DAVID! SCALE!
Man i really need to stop starting new ships when my current ones still aren't finished.

That look's pretty nice.

[kazi]

That's a nice sprite. Just add a couple hard/well-defined shadows and highlights to really make it pop and you're all set. This is just an extra touch to make things more believable.

By hard shadows/highlights, just add a new layer set to hard-light on 50-80% opacity and draw on some white and black in places the light hits/doesn't hit with very well defined edges. Shadows are much more important than highlights.

[CrazyDave]

That's a nice sprite. Just add a couple hard/well-defined shadows and highlights to really make it pop and you're all set. This is just an extra touch to make things more believable.

By hard shadows/highlights, just add a new layer set to hard-light on 50-80% opacity and draw on some white and black in places the light hits/doesn't hit with very well defined edges. Shadows are much more important than highlights.

Shouldn't be too hard...

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That better?

[Tartiflette]

It's better, but their biggest issue in my opinion is their "pillow shading" (Google is your friend). In ultra short: every single piece of armor has a (blurry) highlight point and cast a (blurry) shadow, even those that aren't supposed to be directly lit.

This doesn't add real volume, it only makes your ship look like a glass cotton candy ball...

[xenoargh]

When I set up my new rendering toy that I'm playing with, I had to spend a lot of time on that issue, because true omnidirectional lighting was very bland and flat-feeling, with no interest to the shadows at all, other than AO