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Asher needs to be habitable
« on: January 03, 2025, 06:27:05 AM »

Asher is the barren dessert world of the church that has the burden of heavy industries

and they have a weak nano forge thats causing asher to be poluted

its much like hegemonies chicomoztoc

i really think asher should have a habitable trait since in the nanoforge desrcibtion it says it causes pollution on habitable planets

and since chicomoztoc already have its habitable tag i think asher needs some love too
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TheJollyKraut

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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2025, 08:08:26 AM »

i really think asher should have a habitable trait since in the nanoforge desrcibtion it says it causes pollution on habitable planets

and since chicomoztoc already have its habitable tag i think asher needs some love too
I don't quite see the correlation here.
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2025, 11:58:06 AM »

I think the argument is:
  • Nanoforges only cause the Pollution condition on planets with the Habitable condition.
  • Asher has Pollution but not Habitable.
  • Therefore, either Asher should gain Habitable (to fulfill #1), or should lose Pollution (to avoid #1).
Either way, the net effect would be to improve Asher's Hazard Rating by 25%.  If this change were implemented, I'd go with adding Habitable (the Church had a Habitable world that it sacrificed for industry), rather than removing Pollution (the Church grabbed an uninhabitable world to put its industry on).
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2025, 12:58:16 PM »

i really think asher should have a habitable trait since in the nanoforge desrcibtion it says it causes pollution on habitable planets

and since chicomoztoc already have its habitable tag i think asher needs some love too
I don't quite see the correlation here.

chicomoztoc is barren dessert just like asher
chicomoztoc is polluted just like asher
nano forges dont cause pollution on planets that arent habitable
chicomoztoc is habitable , asher isnt habitable

DeMatt 's comment is also a neat interpretation of what im trying to say
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Alex

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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2025, 01:04:17 PM »

(Hi! Without commenting specifically on Asher, the conditions on a bunch of the core worlds "break the rules" in some way. I personally find this fun, to consider what the specific circumstances might say about the history of that world, or what's going on there.)
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2025, 01:16:55 PM »

Hi alex
these are just some random thoughts i had  :)

individual worlds having seperate stories and flavours would make me very happy i really like getting immersed in your world

i really like the game and appreciate your work and how you interact with the community
much love <3 have a good day
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TheJollyKraut

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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2025, 01:58:05 PM »

Ah, ok. My brain obviously didn't connect the dots here.

My suggestion would be to simply change nano forges to cause pollution on planets that have an atmosphere rather than on planets that are habitable.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2025, 02:01:53 PM by TheJollyKraut »
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2025, 02:13:33 PM »

Ah, ok. My brain obviously didn't connect the dots here.

My suggestion would be to simply change nano forges to cause pollution on planets that have an atmosphere rather than on planets that are habitable.
I would do this cause pollution on any planet. Cause pollution can randomly generate on barren. The exception I suppose would probably be toxic and dense atmosphere. And irradiated

but atm... I guess it's not an issue I suppose...
But it would be funny
« Last Edit: January 03, 2025, 02:17:43 PM by Killer of Fate »
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2025, 10:40:48 PM »

Hi alex
these are just some random thoughts i had  :)

individual worlds having seperate stories and flavours would make me very happy i really like getting immersed in your world

i really like the game and appreciate your work and how you interact with the community
much love <3 have a good day

Thank you for your kind words! I hope you have a good day too <3
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TheJollyKraut

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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2025, 12:27:25 AM »

Cause pollution can randomly generate on barren.
It's not randomly generating. The sector (ie planets) was populated before the AI wars. Hence leftover ruins, pollution, derelict orbital structures and what have you.  :)
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2025, 01:32:17 AM »

Asher could be so heavily polluted that it is no longer habitable
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2025, 02:13:26 AM »

individual worlds having seperate stories and flavours would make me very happy i really like getting immersed in your world

I strongly agree on this. There's no shortage of proc gen worlds, so the core planets being different helps add depth.

Asher could be so heavily polluted that it is no longer habitable

I think it's a question of timescale. Habitable worlds get polluted quickly with a nanoforge, but standard environmental carelessness can have the same effect over decades. Likewise, non-habitable worlds don't get noticeably worsened as quickly, but on the scale of decades or generations, the damage caused by the nanoforge eventually accumulates to become on par with the planet's natural hazards.
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Re: Asher needs to be habitable
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2025, 02:54:10 AM »

Well, many obviously non-habitable planets have atmospheric conditions so incredibly *** that there's very little you could do to it that would make it worse. When the atmosphere is already full of sulfuric acid and the surface is already heavily irradiated, dumping more toxic waste there isn't going to make it instantly kill you any faster.
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