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[Gravenwitch]

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Safe to add and remove, runs with all mods, most features configurable and toggleable, and no dependencies.

This mod is a rewrite of Realistic Combat to behave more like vanilla. Many thanks to Liral for creating RC and allowing this mod to exist.

Features

• Weapon range is increased, spread is decreased proportionally
• The map is larger, ships are faster, but handle slightly worse
• Armor angling with vanilla armor, damage thresholds, and damage type adjustments
• Missile weapon adjustments
• Beam weapon damage formula alterations

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Features (but more in depth)

(configurable in settings)
Projectile Weapons

• Projectile weapons range and projectile speed doubled
• Weapon ranges are based on a multiplier of vanilla ranges rather than a multiplier on projectile speed (i.e. railguns outrange needlers)
• Projectile weapon spread and spread growth multiplied by a factor of 0.71 to maintain a vanilla-esque spread
• Kinetic weapons can ricochet
• Kinetic, HE, and frag weaponry returned to vanilla values, with damage matchups returned to vanilla values
• Vanilla range increasing/decreasing hullmods adjusted to conform to new default ranges

Beam Weapons

• Beam weapons have tripled range
• Beam weapons follow a simplified damage falloff curve according to distance:
  0 to 1/3rd range: 1.5x to 1.0x damage
  1/3rd to 2/3rd range: 1.0x to 0.5x damage
  2/3rd to max range: 0.5x to 0x damage
  

Missile Weapons

• Missile maximum ammo doubled, tripled, or quadrupled based on launcher size/weapon type
• Missile range doubled, tripled, or quadrupled based on launcher size/weapon type
• Missile stats adjusted accordingly
• Missile burst size returned to vanilla values (i.e. the locust now fires 30 instead of 4)

Armor

• Armor angling increases relative armor value between 1 and 1.41x at a 45 degree angle
• Minimal damage (damage reduced to 15% or less) is subject to a damage threshold
• Damage thresholds reduce damage by 10/15/20/25 scaling with hull size, and subject to damage type adjustments
• Damage thresholds do not apply on stripped (minimal) armor
• All 3 tech level cruiser/capitals can now take lmg / light ac fire on armor without significant damage, the higher damage gets the more like vanilla it behaves
• Combined with the beam formula change, beam weapons effective ranges are determined by hull size. They can destroy frigates at near max range but may need to close in to strip heavy armor.
• Hull damage reduces cr, dropping to 30% of starting CR at 0 hull

Shields

• Shields are unchanged from RC, they only function differently due to the beam formula change

Ships

• Ships max speed slightly increased (more for lighter ships)
• Ship handling largely unchanged, most ships have slightly worse deceleration
• Map size slightly larger to allow frigate skirmishes before capitals arrive

And more! Many minor features of RC have been simplified or dumbed down

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Why I modded this mod

Realistic Combat captured my imagination like no other mod. I love the careful positioning, firing lines and broadsides. I love hulking dreadnaughts shrugging off overwhelming oncoming fire. I love that guns have gun-tier range, rather than knife fighting in space.
In light of all this, please do not take the list below seriously. They are petty grievances exaggerated for dramatic and comic effect.

• This started because I wanted a locust capable of firing its usual 30 missiles per burst.
• The HIL in RC can't penetrate the armor of a lasher past 100 range
• Wings are 10/20x tankier than vanilla
• Frigates get one shot and cannot harm a capital without a few reapers
• The light assault gun cannot harm a single target in the game
• After missiles run dry, fights can take 10 minutes of whittling down the few remaining ships if you lost your hellbore-ship
• Needlers outrange railguns
• I was stuck between the innate RC skills, or quality captains skills that were incompatible or functioned poorly with the reworked damage model
• The requirement to get a perfect 90 degree hit on certain matchups was maddening
• A reaper did no armor damage despite creating a miniature sun on an enemy hull
• Modded beams (especially targeting beams) were wildly op or underpowered
• Armor stripping armaments were extremely op
• The AI could not handle the altered handling on some ships, causing them to zoom around wildly not hitting any shots
• All weapons being innately at perfect accuracy / no spread and perfect auto targeting accuracy
• High explosive damage being worse against armor than kinetics
• Modded and vanilla missile ammo being very odd due to max ammo caps
• (small!) Gorgons literally one shotting an invictus
• Minimum armor, maximum armor, effective armor increases, ablative armor, etc no longer functioning

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Where will this mod go from here?

Most likely nowhere
RL (realistic life) is a bit rough rn. I am busy and tired so I may or may not provide bug fixes or further content to this mod. Sorry!
I make no claims on quality, stability, performance, or balance. I made this mod according to my subjective sense of fun and logic.
Where it might go

• Adding / updating configuration for all features, and some vanilla stuff I found along the way
• Implement an option for missile ammo regeneration applied to all missiles
• Implement an option for armor to also regenerate when hull would
• Implement more user controls over how beams work. Add efficiency cutoffs or targeting AI
• Implement skills / add to existing skills to interact with the damage model, optionally
• Work on retreat logic, for weapon caches or 1 [REDACTED] ship fleeing instantly over and over

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Frequently Answered Answers

• The mod is called Cinematic Combat because it serves as the middle ground between reality and video game suspension of disbelief, or otherwise functions on a pop-cultural sci-fi logic. Also I want fights that look good and well spaced.
• Do not run this mod and RC at the same time, use one or the other.
• I added damage thresholds to emulate the lack of ablation of RC armor without having an invincible wall, I'll let you toggle them independently of the damage model possibly

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Changelog

1.0.1
Fix to native RC bug where cosmetic (0 damage) weapons cause ships to gain infinite flux and invisible, invincible shields. I've confirmed that ASF's Cockatrice no longer causes it.
As a side effect, all beams deal a minimum of 0.01 damage which hopefully doesn't change much.
Shield 'breakthrough' effect limited to >0.01 to assist in preventing infinite shields bug.
Beam weapon's minimum damage post-threshold increased from 1 to 2, due to beam damage being halved when calculating penetration.
Default settings for missile ammo reset to vanilla values. Still can be changed in settings.
1.0.0
Launch

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License

• Cinematic Combat is free to use, modify, publish, etc. without attribution, permission, etc. Just like RC

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[oddisz]

Sounds cool, starting a playthrough with this mod, will give feedback in a few days.

[aikixd]

Precisely what I need. Started a new playthrough with this.

With beams range tripled and the falloff, as opposed to double for other types of projectiles, should I not try to have similar ranges for beams and other weapons for the AI to behave correctly?

[mipacem]

these changes are exactly what compromises id make from lirals to not have jank (although when it all works its peak...)

[Wonderful Alien]

Does it have same incompatibilities as Realistic Combat?

[Gravenwitch]

Went on a 6 month modding vacation right after posting this mod. I may add some updates soon depending on how this quarter goes.

Does it have same incompatibilities as Realistic Combat?

No mods cause serious problems with cinematic combat afaik. The damage calculations are more durable / vanilla than RC which was the primary issue with compatibility. I fixed the infinite flux / invincible hull bug that RC has with many modded ships / weapons which was the main incompatibility issue.

God mode from console commands does not function, same as in RC.

With beams range tripled and the falloff, as opposed to double for other types of projectiles, should I not try to have similar ranges for beams and other weapons for the AI to behave correctly?

In my testing the AI will naturally play at around 1/3 to 2/3rds of beam weapon range meaning they will do normal damage.

[Frownton]

Hi, I'm getting a crash in the middle of a fight with a derelict fleet using Cinematic Combat. II would like to note that prior to this fight, I had restarted the game after changing GraphicLib's configuration to the Low-end preset. Log is here:

3012468 [Thread-2] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.awt.Color.getRed()" because "color" is null
43733     java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.awt.Color.getRed()" because "color" is null
43734            at Gravenwitch.CinematicCombat.util.OpenGLUtils.glColor(OpenGLUtils.java:28)
43735            at Gravenwitch.CinematicCombat.listeners.WeaponFacings.advance(WeaponFacings.java:104)
43736            at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.Ship.advance(Unknown Source)
43737            at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatEngine.advanceInner(Unknown Source)
43738            at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatEngine.advance(Unknown Source)
43739            at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatState.traverse(Unknown Source)
43740            at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
43741            at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
43742            at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher.super(Unknown Source)
43743            at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
43744            at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1447)


Thank you for your time.

[RXZH]

Hi, the mod is great, I want to share it on game forums in China. OK?
Waiting for your reply···
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[Nitori_Tachyon]

Hi! I found an issue that causes crash when launching with some other ship pack or faction mods. Some of modders leave some of their weapons' tags blank in weapon_data.csv so when using getString("tags") game throws an exception. And there's no try-catch concerning this in your mod, specifically, ModPluginjava:67 and 100. After adding try-catch there the issue seems to disappear.

[turnop]

Hi, I'm getting a crash in the middle of a fight with a derelict fleet using Cinematic Combat. (snip)

I was able to diagnose and fix this for you, please read post below

Hello! If you ever come back and update this awesome mod (my personal favorite of the x combat series), I'd like to report two incompatibilities.

1) SiC: Soft incompat, seems like the skill modifications in this mod and SiC's skill modifications simultaneously take effect, making some combat skills have weird descriptions and applying both effects (I think).

2) Symbiotic Void Creatures (and some derelicts): entering into combat with or killing many types of void creatures and some derelicts with this mod causes a nullpointerexception CTD as your combat module tries to find the red color used for their blood with the same error posted by a user above when fighting derelicts.

I had a hard time replicating this with just SVC and this mod, but it consistently occurs in my larger modlist of 180~ mods, not sure what to make of that. However I was able to fix this particular incompatibility myself by updating your OpenGLUtils.java to include the following failsafe:

https://pastebin.com/MP3xE0H4

(P.S., sorry about the pastebin link, when I try to paste this code directly into the forum it gives me a database error. If you encounter the null color error after making this update to your jar please let me know but be sure you have actually successfully updated your jar first)

Basically this just causes the game to default to white if the color of an effect comes up null. SVC void creatures blood is still red, too. You should be able to plug this in seamlessly to the main mod which will fix this problem (and anyone who installs both mods can do it themselves if they open up the jar in recaf, load in the requires libraries and update the openglutils class in jar). Hope this helps, thanks for making this awesome mod, death to space knife-fighting! Guns have range!