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[Lukas04]

The 30 ships limit is generaly understandable, but can also feel pretty Awkward for certain fleet builds. In the end you just get more value with higher DP ships.
I think giving a +5 to the limit on both Wolfpack Tactics and Support Doctrine would feel nice quite nice and negates the issue atleast a little bit.

[Alex]

Hmm, my feeling is that 30 is already pushing it quite a bit in terms of what the UI can handle gracefully, where it gets annoying managing their loadouts, where the battlefield gets too crowded, etc.

That aside, though - it's definitely not something I'd want to increase via skills, since that implies the limit is in some way related to balance, and it's very much not!

[Lukas04]

Hmm, my feeling is that 30 is already pushing it quite a bit in terms of what the UI can handle gracefully, where it gets annoying managing their loadouts, where the battlefield gets too crowded, etc.

That aside, though - it's definitely not something I'd want to increase via skills, since that implies the limit is in some way related to balance, and it's very much not!

Mh, fair. It just does have an impact on balance. At a certain point a 10DP ship will be worth it more than 5DP ship, and so on. Fair on the performance angle though.

[Lawrence Master-blaster]

What "certain fleet builds" use more than 25 ships(assuming 5 for logistics)? Meme Kite Reaper spam?

In the end you just get more value with higher DP ships.

240 / 25 = 9.6

So currently the game lets you go all the way down to destroyers and still run out of DP before you hit the fleet ship limit...

[Phenir]

Wolfpack with any frigates besides hyperion, and half the destroyers if you are using support doctrine. Like, idk, LP brawler + glimmer + carrier (heron) fleet build?
Also, you don't have to strictly adhere to 240 dp, you could bring extra ships to cover the occasional loss from AI overextending. You'll survive losing 1-2% damage lol.

[SonnaBanana]

Hmm, my feeling is that 30 is already pushing it quite a bit in terms of what the UI can handle gracefully, where it gets annoying managing their loadouts, where the battlefield gets too crowded, etc.

That aside, though - it's definitely not something I'd want to increase via skills, since that implies the limit is in some way related to balance, and it's very much not!

So from colony structures then?

[kaoseth]

I'd like to something based off command points and your level more.  Something like 20 + 10 per character level + 2 for each officer's level.   (Mothball ships counting as 0). 
 
Also, it'd have to be a soft cap of some kind.  Perhaps reduced combat effectiveness ending in ships leaving.  So you have some flex room to go over, but not by double. 
 

[Killer of Fate]

I'd like to something based off command points and your level more.  Something like 20 + 10 per character level + 2 for each officer's level.   (Mothball ships counting as 0). 
 
Also, it'd have to be a soft cap of some kind.  Perhaps reduced combat effectiveness ending in ships leaving.  So you have some flex room to go over, but not by double. 
 

fleets in the game aren't supposed to evolve in quantity but ship size. There should be a frigate centric 30 ship fleet, as well as destroyers centric one... And depending on the phase of the game, all fleets end up being mostly focused in cruisers capital ship territory.