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Author Topic: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts  (Read 902 times)

DeMatt

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[0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« on: February 08, 2024, 10:58:05 PM »
If you come across a drifting ship, and it requires a story point to salvage... scrapping it does not give you any equipped weapons.  This also seems to be true for story-point ships being scrapped during mass recovery post-combat.
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2024, 12:35:35 AM »
I just assume part of that story point goes not only towards restoring the hull out of state of "radioactive dust in solar wind", but the weapons as well.
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2024, 05:09:19 AM »
Thank you for the report. I'm going to move this into "suggestions" because it seems like it's not so much an error as a question of design intent. (I don't have a strong position on the question and feel its probably fine as-is, but maybe Alex thinks otherwise.)
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2024, 06:48:28 AM »
It certainly isn't intuitive.
I wonder, does this happen with post-battle salvage as well?
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2024, 10:29:47 AM »
Yeah, I've bug-reported this one too. Got told it was "working as intended".

And I'll admit that the current implementation is better than what came before, where you could infinitely multiply the weapons on a story-point-recoverable wreck by repeatedly considering your options...
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2024, 10:31:10 AM »
Quote from: Princess_of_Evil on February 09, 2024, 12:35:35 AM
I just assume part of that story point goes not only towards restoring the hull out of state of "radioactive dust in solar wind", but the weapons as well.

^ exactly this. (As to why: implementation details.)
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2024, 08:01:39 AM »
If that's the intent then cool, but it would be nice if this message was removed or changed. Or at least for non-story-point wrecks to always drop their weapons. I find it a little misleading.

(Also I really want those weapons lol)

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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2024, 10:18:44 AM »
Non-story-point wrecks do always drop their weapons, but wrecks (both story point and non) usually won't have their full complement of guns and fighter LPCs.

(Sometimes they do! But it's not common.)
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Re: [0.97a-RC8] No weapons from story-point derelicts
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2024, 08:00:37 AM »
I could have sworn I'd lost weapons that showed up on a non story point derelict but I've tested it several times now and I must just be misremembering. Sorry, my bad  :-\
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