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Grievous69

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New Wendigo phase cruiser
« on: January 07, 2024, 12:46:41 AM »

From all the sources I've seen so far, known information is: Large cruiser with 1200 armour and 11k hull, Rugged Construction hullmod, 5 medium ballistic, 6 small ballistics and 3 small missiles. But the real kicker here is that it has AAF. That's a scary amount of burst ballistic damage on a ship that can go in the shadow realm. Now, we still don't know the important stats such as speed and flux, but I'm happy there will finally be a phase ship I can leave to the AI and not feel bad. This just seems foolproof enough that even AI can do something decent in a fight.

Also there's no way this thing is cheaper than an Aurora.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2024, 01:09:50 AM »

You can see the weapon layout in this tweet he responded with. It looks to be a pretty interesting layout.

https://twitter.com/amosolov/status/1743803459256676731/photo/1
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2024, 05:19:52 AM »

Ho, now that looks interesting. I expected typical phase get-close-and-unload-then-rephase ship, but this looks more like a shield shunted cruiser with a cherry on top.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2024, 05:30:28 AM »

Nah, the 1000 range build was really obvious. AAF removes its only downside - low DPS. Phase lets you recharge the system much faster, so you never have to fire without it. Staying so far away lets you safely vent and avoid chip damage while you are firing.

Honestly looks busted in an unfun way. Hope it's very DP expensive.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2024, 05:43:14 AM »

True true, which is why I expect it to be very slow or have atrocious flux dissipation but decent capacity. Although now that the range is mentioned I vaguely remember Alex talking about Distributed Fire Control, which means it can't get the range boosting hullmods. I'll check it out and edit the OP if it's true.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2024, 11:03:24 AM »

Also there's no way this thing is cheaper than an Aurora.
It's only 18 DP
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2024, 11:31:59 AM »

I'm gonna put 5 HVDs on it and nothing else.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2024, 01:09:01 PM »

Probably going to use the two small mounts for needlers and place three mortars.  One or two flak batteries, and I'm golden.  I can just imagine the torrent of shells from the mortars melting other cruisers.  I can hope.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2024, 04:44:35 PM »

Now that we have a higher resolution image, does anyone else see the angry faces?

Base image: https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/qKvi3P.jpg

Emphasized the one on the left: https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/OZ57aC.jpg

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In seriousness, three small missiles, five medium ballistics, six small ones is a pretty fearsome loadout for 18 DP. That said, I stand my my initial comparison to the Mora - similar DP cost, roughly similar loadout, and a non-shield defense that allows it to survive well in rough situations. Less power projection, but much more capable of bursting things down at medium range. Quite a bit will depend on how fast it can move.

It'd be really cool if we get some kind of slightly glitched-looking phase effect for it, accounting for its appearance - just messing with one of the display parameters or something to make it look a little half-cooked.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2024, 08:20:37 PM »

For only 18 DP and really solid burst dmg it seems like one of those ships you toss a couple into your fleet and let them do their thing. Tanky as hell and can phase away if need be but if it does die, no real loss thanks to the built-ins. A real low maintenance ship both literally and figuratively.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2024, 09:48:38 PM »

Or, you know, you compare it to Eradicator instead of Mora, and then it's more than double the firepower for 4 less DP  :)
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2024, 12:40:40 AM »

I feel so tempted to slap chainguns and heavy machine guns on it
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2024, 12:56:43 AM »

I feel so tempted to slap chainguns and heavy machine guns on it
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2024, 01:17:22 AM »

Also there's no way this thing is cheaper than an Aurora.
It's only 18 DP
This is insane to me, unless it appears pretty rarely there's no way it won't be obnoxious in enemy fleets.
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Re: New Wendigo phase cruiser
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2024, 01:24:42 AM »

Not just obnoxious, it looks straight up numerically superior to Eradicator, which is already one of the best cruisers. That's just too much raw stats and mounts for 18 DP. I thought it would be 35 reading the OP, lol.

There has to be some stupid catch like DFC, or 120 seconds PPT, or something like that.
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