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Play with just one ship possible?
« on: August 05, 2023, 07:03:13 PM »

I was wondering because I just fail to do this with every try.
Is there a mod that would make this more possible.
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2023, 07:28:35 PM »

I'd imagine some overpowered ship mode might help you, otherwise you are very limited.
In vanilla, salvaging and carrying cargo needs several ships, setting up colonies require that you bring 1000 people with you plus the supplies and machinery.
You'd only be able to do scanning missions with a very efficient ship like an apogee and combat, but you'd be limited to very small enemy fleets or need to only engage when you have allies to back you up.
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2023, 10:17:11 PM »

Are you doing only one combat ship or just one ship total?
If you can have civilian ships then there’s a bunch of options all the way to end game with the storyline ship.
If one ship total then mule (P) is probably the best destroyer, apogee for your cruiser and odyssey for your capital.
Or you play trader and just drive a smuggler ship or an atlas.
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2023, 10:57:50 PM »

You can play (and win any non-contrived fight = nobody forces you to collect multiple Ordos) with only player ship deployed in combat. But you still need logistic ships and spare combat ships to swap.
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2023, 03:28:53 AM »

I mean that's just called the
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2023, 04:29:22 AM »

With the right mod you could probably make any ship so OP that it is enough. But this would not be much of a challenge.

The Apogee is one of the few ships, which is suitable for long time one ship play without logistics due high storage and fuel capacity and fighting abilities. But you have too keep away from any larger battle.

But this fits to most ships including end game ships. The very best Vanilla ship has high CR consumption per Deployment and low CR regeneration and can be ruined by just 3 consecutive battles.

Capitals can be used as one ship fleets but have low amount of fuel and storage capacity. You need to choose the capital carefully because it needs to fit your skills and fighting style. Odyssey, Paragon and Onslaughts can do. But others too.

A little bit tricky but very OP in some situations can be the use of a single Revenant with built in insulated engine assembly. Fast and quite invisible to others. But Battle with this would be a bit too challenging i guess  ::).

But whatever you choose, there are at least 4 points in the story of the game where you actually want and need to have more than 1 ship to get the actually coolest things.

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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2023, 09:29:29 AM »

But whatever you choose, there are at least 4 points in the story of the game where you actually want and need to have more than 1 ship to get the actually coolest things.

Space broccoli, doritos, new big Sindrian pew pew, and what's the fourth? The red umbrella?
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2023, 10:21:47 AM »

But whatever you choose, there are at least 4 points in the story of the game where you actually want and need to have more than 1 ship to get the actually coolest things.

Space broccoli, doritos, new big Sindrian pew pew, and what's the fourth? The red umbrella?
I presume the Heg's AI disaster. But I've beaten that with one Hyperion.
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2023, 12:17:03 PM »

But whatever you choose, there are at least 4 points in the story of the game where you actually want and need to have more than 1 ship to get the actually coolest things.

Space broccoli, doritos, new big Sindrian pew pew, and what's the fourth? The red umbrella?

2 x Double Dorito, 1 x Dorito with Extra spicy blue stuff and 1 x big gray with the funky Sparks. There is no ship in game, which can act independent without logistics and beat all of these and get the desired loot home.

Sindrians Guns can be gained with with some tricks with even quite weak ships. Takes just time. Space Broccolie is hard on first look but managable.

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I presume the Heg's AI disaster. But I've beaten that with one Hyperion.

These can be done with one ship. There are several which could do.

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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2023, 12:49:59 PM »

Last release, Ziggurat could beat double Tesseracts and the Omega bounty by itself.  Double Tesseracts is or was beatable with human weapons only.  The only things that got nerfed for Ziggurat this release is IPDAI needs s-mod to enable PD for IR PL (or Rift Lance) and sIPDAI+ePD no longer gives +200 range to AMBs (although I did not use AMBs on my victories against Omega ships with Ziggurat).  It does require cheese and exploiting the edges and corner.  As for Omega bounty, I see no problem lowering battle size to 200 (via in-game settings) to force the enemy to deploy less at a time and make the fight more fair for your one ship.
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Re: Play with just one ship possible?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2023, 03:40:18 PM »

Well, Zig can be beaten by a Falcon (P), or really any cruiser or capital with 2+ Proximity Charge Launchers (along with elite Missile Specialization) solo.  And then the Zig itself combined with the Industry tree can travel 150 light years round trip (500 fuel + 50% = 750 fuel at 10*0.5=5 fuel per light year).  That will go clear across the entire sector and back.  And 300 cargo capacity is enough to carry AI cores and omega weapons back, plus the needed 150 supplies or so.  Even without the industry tree, 500 fuel at 10 fuel/light year is a 25 light year range, which covers quite a bit of territory, especially once gates come into play.

If you're willing to swap what your single ship is at any given time you could always explore the sector in a Hound (finding gates along the way), come back to the core, and swap in the Ziggurat to clean up.  Depending on one's goals, you can complete the entire campaign and unlock gates in a Hound without firing a shot.  Go from Hound, to Legion, to Zig.
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