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Author Topic: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?  (Read 654 times)

Sendrien

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No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« on: July 22, 2023, 11:01:22 AM »

After I got the PCL Blueprint, I've stopped seeing PCLs being sold in any market. I've been to almost every market now, looking for PCLs, over the span of 5 years, and I haven't found one yet. Might there be some kind of interaction that prevents selling of a weapon after the player obtains the blueprint?

Or am I just ultra unlucky?
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Alex

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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2023, 11:02:51 AM »

My guess is "unlucky". Try Sindrian markets; they have a higher chance of selling PCLs!
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2023, 11:10:13 AM »

No clue how to exactly verify this in vanilly. If you are not against a QoL mod, try Stellar Networks, it should prove whether you're just being unlucky, or if Ludd is punishing you with no PCL.

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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2023, 11:10:39 AM »

My guess is "unlucky". Try Sindrian markets; they have a higher chance of selling PCLs!

Thanks for the tip, Alex! Is there any way I can "refresh" the Sindrian markets so as to try repeatedly to confirm this?
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2023, 11:12:08 AM »

No clue how to exactly verify this in vanilly. If you are not against a QoL mod, try Stellar Networks, it should prove whether you're just being unlucky, or if Ludd is punishing you with no PCL.

Oh, interesting! I don't know much about mods, can you explain how I would use this mod to figure out what's going on?
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2023, 11:16:27 AM »

Thanks for the tip, Alex! Is there any way I can "refresh" the Sindrian markets so as to try repeatedly to confirm this?

(No vanilla way of doing it comes to mind, hmm.)
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2023, 11:21:38 AM »

My guess is "unlucky". Try Sindrian markets; they have a higher chance of selling PCLs!

Thanks for the tip, Alex! Is there any way I can "refresh" the Sindrian markets so as to try repeatedly to confirm this?
In non-vanilla ways there's ForceMarketUpdate in Console Commands which refreshes all market inventories.
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2023, 11:21:58 AM »

(No vanilla way of doing it comes to mind, hmm.)

How long between visits before the market refreshes? I don't mind just playing the game and revisiting Sindria from time to time to check, but I'd need to know how frequently to do it.
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2023, 11:44:09 AM »

On the next visit at least 30 days after the previous refresh!
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2023, 11:53:03 AM »

Oh, interesting! I don't know much about mods, can you explain how I would use this mod to figure out what's going on?

So Stelnet adds some extra buttons to the Intel menu. The one you'll need is the Markets menu. There you select Queries, then select Add a New Query. There you can basically search for any weapon, ship, anything, but in this case you need to select Items as Query type, Weapons as Item types, Missile as Mount type and Medium as Mount size and Common as Design Type.

Once all this is done hit Select & Search. It will open a menu for selecting any specific items matchin your criteria. You put PCL to the Selected menu and hit Search.

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If all's well, now you should have separate notes on the left indicating what the query has found with the market and the amount of the items.

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(There's only one note here, as PCL only seems to be available at Sindria in this case.)

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« Last Edit: July 22, 2023, 11:55:36 AM by Sandor057 »
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Re: No one sells PCLs after I obtain the PCL Blueprint?
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2023, 12:34:28 PM »

The PCL drought is finally over!

Found some in the black market of Sindria. Thanks for the help everyone!
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