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[TheMuffinOfEvil]

Like the title says.  I have owned the game forever, I have gifted many copies to friends, but I would still like to show more support because I get a truly staggering amount of entertainment from the game.

[BaBosa]

You could just buy a whole bunch of extra copies and not use them for one off donations. Though a patron would be better for regular donations.

[Schwartz]

Buy more keys! There's not really any difference in doing this vs. Patreon, except that Patreon takes a percentage.

[BaBosa]

There’s no option to buy a key every month though unfortunately so you’d have to remember each month but you’d definitely end up forgetting at some point.

[Great Wound]

I have owned the game forever, I have gifted many copies to friends, but I would still like to show more support because I get a truly staggering amount of entertainment from the game.

But more keys and give them away to random streamers and host giveaways on random forums. Increasing the fanbase is never a bad thing.

[Not a Pirate]

Don't use Patreon, they are a political entity that steals money from anyone not Woke enough for them.


Just buy lots of game keys.   The money goes straight to Fractal Softworks and you'll always have gift keys to hand out if you want to.

[Network Pesci]

^Dude that is total nonsense, how could Patreon steal money from anybody?  They take contributions, and they only take what you give them, it's not like they sign people up against their will.  When my dad was using Patreon for his cancer treatments they certainly dealt with him a lot more honestly than the VA did.

StarSector deserves to succeed because millions of people enjoyed a great game, not because hundreds of whales bought hundreds of copies each like some kind of modern-day Dianetics scam.  If Alex had a PO box or continental mailing address posted on this forum, I might send him a stack of hundred dollar bills in an envelope, but I can only play one copy of StarSector per computer and I only have one computer.

I would like a way to directly contribute financially to the game's development as well.  Buying lots of keys is not an option.  If you personally want to do that, fine, that's your privilege and I won't judge you.  I wouldn't do that.  Some people turn Cotton Livewell's DNA over to the space cops, I don't judge you if you do that in your game, but I don't do it myself.  I don't "game the system" like that, I won't be a part of rigging sales numbers.  All of the copies of StarSector I have bought were intended to be played by myself or close friends, not as part of a rig-the-bestseller-list scam.  It is good and right and proper and ethical to contribute to Alex's financial success.  It is unethical and improper to inflate sales numbers by buying products never intended to be used.

Alex, or any employees that read this, every YouTube reactor has an address so their fans can send them memorabilia or even financial contributions.  I assure you with 100% absolute knowledge it would be worth your time to create a topic that says, "Want to send Alex and the team something?  Contributions, packages, and sweet fan merch can be sent to PO Box StarSector Command HQ, Jangala, Corvus Sector 999999" or whatever.  Whoever creates that topic, I can promise you for a fact that the one minute you spend posting that will be the most financially profitable sixty seconds in the history of StarSector development.

[Grievous69]

What are you on about my dude? Alex himself said that the best way to support the game is to buy more copies for friends (or just share them online). Who here cares about "gaming the system of best sellers"... Unless the post was satirical, then forget what I said.

[Network Pesci]

Alex is fine with people buying copies they don't intend to play.  I just said I don't judge people for that but I don't do it myself.  Some people buy entire rooms full of action figures or Funko Pops or Beanie Babies that they don't ever play with.  I don't do that myself.  Literally everybody I ever had that I called a "friend" that would want a copy of StarSector has one, all both of them.  I'm not convinced either of them ever played the game, one of the guys is all into MMORPGS and the other guy doesn't play any games with violence in them, but when I bought copies I honestly intended them to be played.

If I was a YouTube guy, I could buy a hundred copies and hand them out to my "fans".  I'm not a YouTube guy, my long rambling posts on here is basically my entire social media presence.  I could buy a hundred copies of StarSector and post key codes in random YouTube comments, but posting that where it's not wanted makes me no better than those spambots that infest the forum.  To whoever is the lucky chump that sees the comment first and gets a free copy, yeah, that guy got a free copy (if a spambot doesn't harvest the code first) but then the message is still there and thousands of people will see a spam ad that doesn't work.

I.  Here.  Care.   About gaming the system of best sellers, that's why I said that.  Everybody here but me probably has a phone, if Alex said the best way to support StarSector is to tweet #StarSector or text "StarSector is the best" to such and such a number or mention the game on your Tiktok I wouldn't do those either.  What I am trying to do is to make a cash gift or donation, as it might be, and then if Alex wants to buy a dozen copies of his own game in his name or for that matter in my name, I don't care, he could donate it to Pather radicals or the Andrada re-election fund for all of me.

[Mortrag]

If your problem with those game codes is, that they would end up as internet-spam and so negativly effect other users online, then: Don't do that.

And also, don't view those game keys you receive as: A key that HAS to be used by some one to unlock and play this game.
Instead, just view those keys as another form of a receipt and a validation for your donation towards Alex.

If your perception is what leads to you bothering about that, try to change your perception:
A donation is handed out money for nothing in return.
And if you perceive those game keys as "nothing", all you do is donating money to Alex.

[Grievous69]

Mortrag was faster than me but to explain my thoughts.

I fully understand that YOU want a system where you can just donate x amount of money directly to the devs, as you said so in a previous post. But you can't get more direct than buying the game that is not on a major distribution platform. And that is supporting the development as much as you can. You're asking for something that already exists, albeit crude (since there's no way to set the amount of money).

Even someone who bought the game, only to play it for half an hour, and then never touch it again has supported the development process. Why are you so adamant that each purchase must be enjoyed and experienced fully? It's just a product at the end of the day, everyone will have a different approach and value out of said product. You're free to praise the game and voice your opinions, but saying that buying keys is not an option for the financial support is straight up delusion.

[Network Pesci]

Even someone who bought the game, only to play it for half an hour, and then never touch it again has supported the development process. Why are you so adamant that each purchase must be enjoyed and experienced fully? It's just a product at the end of the day, everyone will have a different approach and value out of said product. You're free to praise the game and voice your opinions, but saying that buying keys is not an option for the financial support is straight up delusion.

I didn't say any of that, I said that each purchase THAT I PERSONALLY MAKE must be intended, BY ME, to be played.  Your example of somebody playing it for half an hour would be perfectly acceptable, the rest about "must be enjoyed and experienced fully" is something you made up and projected onto me.  I specified that I don't judge anybody else for doing it differently.  It's not a "delusion", it's my personal ethical structure.  I apologize if you misinterpreted my statement about ethics to be universal, but I think I was clear enough that I was talking about my own personal policy.  Buying keys FOR ME PERSONALLY is not an option, I don't have a debit card, bank account, or a phone at the moment and I'm not inclined to fundamentally change my lifestyle no matter how much I like a video game about space ships.  What I do have, is a stack of hundreds, a stack of envelopes, a stack of forever stamps, willingness to contribute, and the frank admission to myself that I'm not going to live long enough to spend the money I have in my wallet right now, let alone see the finished StarSector 1.0 come out and play it.  Here I am working two jobs like a chump, and I don't even need one, I could retire.  As long as people are willing to pay me to do a bunch of stuff I'd do for free and call it a job, I'm willing to share the wealth with my favorite content creators that have made those games and videos and music that brought enjoyment to my life these past decades.  If the development team of my favorite videogame can't or won't meet me halfway, that's unfortunate, but Alex isn't going to be rich or poor based on my little contributions or lack thereof.  If Alex doesn't get my hundreds, then modders on his forum who read their PMs will get extra.

[Doctorhealsgood]

Even someone who bought the game, only to play it for half an hour, and then never touch it again has supported the development process. Why are you so adamant that each purchase must be enjoyed and experienced fully? It's just a product at the end of the day, everyone will have a different approach and value out of said product. You're free to praise the game and voice your opinions, but saying that buying keys is not an option for the financial support is straight up delusion.

I didn't say any of that, I said that each purchase THAT I PERSONALLY MAKE must be intended, BY ME, to be played.  Your example of somebody playing it for half an hour would be perfectly acceptable, the rest about "must be enjoyed and experienced fully" is something you made up and projected onto me.  I specified that I don't judge anybody else for doing it differently.  It's not a "delusion", it's my personal ethical structure.  I apologize if you misinterpreted my statement about ethics to be universal, but I think I was clear enough that I was talking about my own personal policy.  Buying keys FOR ME PERSONALLY is not an option, I don't have a debit card, bank account, or a phone at the moment and I'm not inclined to fundamentally change my lifestyle no matter how much I like a video game about space ships.  What I do have, is a stack of hundreds, a stack of envelopes, a stack of forever stamps, willingness to contribute, and the frank admission to myself that I'm not going to live long enough to spend the money I have in my wallet right now, let alone see the finished StarSector 1.0 come out and play it.  Here I am working two jobs like a chump, and I don't even need one, I could retire.  As long as people are willing to pay me to do a bunch of stuff I'd do for free and call it a job, I'm willing to share the wealth with my favorite content creators that have made those games and videos and music that brought enjoyment to my life these past decades.  If the development team of my favorite videogame can't or won't meet me halfway, that's unfortunate, but Alex isn't going to be rich or poor based on my little contributions or lack thereof.  If Alex doesn't get my hundreds, then modders on his forum who read their PMs will get extra.

So uh... If you don't have a bank account or a debit card or a phone at the moment how are you going to pay the patreon?

[Not a Pirate]

^Dude that is total nonsense, how could Patreon steal money from anybody? 

Except the Canadian truckers for instance.


Hope your Dad got better.

[David]

Keep this on topic, please, and keep it chill. We're here to talk about videogames.