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BaBosa

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DEM bombers?
« on: March 25, 2023, 12:40:48 AM »

Will there be new bombers for the new DEMs? In particular the Gazer and Hydra? Currently the only kinetic bomber are the longbows so it’d be nice to see another one. A fighter version of the Hydra sounds really cool as it’ll be like the swarmer but more useful which I think will look awesome.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2023, 12:42:25 AM »

I would love a long-range bomber that launches like four squalls.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2023, 01:11:32 AM »

Na I understand why there’s no squall bomber. Long weapon range on fighters is extremely valuable and so is kinetic damage. Having both would make it OP or be nerfed into uselessness.

To emphasise how important weapon range is on fighters. Compare 2 xyphos vs a claw and spark.
C&S has more burst PD, more EMP DPS and it has engagement range vs xyphos which just has better weapon range but is still the best fighter by far.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2023, 10:34:24 AM »

Aren't DEMs pretty much disposable fighters? The recursion is pretty funny though.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2023, 12:56:13 AM »

Na I understand why there’s no squall bomber. Long weapon range on fighters is extremely valuable and so is kinetic damage. Having both would make it OP or be nerfed into uselessness.

To emphasise how important weapon range is on fighters. Compare 2 xyphos vs a claw and spark.
C&S has more burst PD, more EMP DPS and it has engagement range vs xyphos which just has better weapon range but is still the best fighter by far.

I guess the new sarrisa support fighter suggest long range kinetic bomber is possible, at least for balance perspective
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2023, 02:29:20 AM »

How does the new Sarrisa fighters suggest that? It has shorter weapon and engagement range compared to the already existing longbow. Also squalls have a range of 2,500 which is almost double sabots and they’re much faster.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2023, 02:36:57 AM »

If we ever get a new bomber I'd rather it have a new unique weapon, rather than "x thing but on a fighter now". Especially since DEMs are kinda cool in their own theme, it would be a shame to make them just another basic thing.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2023, 05:17:34 PM »

An indirect support weapon on an indirect support platform seems a little redundant. TBH, Atropos on a bomber seems redundant, aside from the potentially infinite ammo.
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Re: DEM bombers?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2023, 05:45:17 AM »

Atropos has high damage on a missile that is very difficult to dodge. It's worse than other HE bombers against bigger ships, mainly because the bombers themselves are more expensive, but it's extremely good against smaller ships.
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