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[Araneide]

What are you supposed to do with the overgrown nanoforge?

I'm wondering the same thing. I used to suppose that with a fully develop faction (I'm playing with Ind Evo) with all reseached technologies I would be somewhat able to counteract the malus but no, it's just too severe. Like I'm going from 5xx% fleet size with 1-2 smod per ship to 1000% fleet size with 3-4 dmod with all quality giving options cranked to the max. It just doesn't feel worth it. Yes I'm doubling fleet size, but they are all full of crap. I have the feeling that I should have left the nanoforge on its planet and try to just optimise production that way. It feels bad given the amount of money (even if it's kind of irrelevant given the size of my empire now) that I had to invest to cull it.

The best usage I found so far is to slap it on my BioSynth Laboratory to produce an ungodly amound of recreationnal drugs, but in in the end it's limited by the accessibility of the market (and the fact that it increases the overall hazard rating) and only represents and increase of around 35 000 / month.

In my opinion the item is really underwhelming in this state (actually I found it quite underwhelming already before the nerf, only good when my faction ship quality was already terrible at the beginning of a playthrough).

[PJ_2005]

I'm in that system, on the irradiated planet, and i have an issue where every time I raid it just sends me to the normal planet interaction screen until I leave the planet and come back, at which point I am given the option to raid or bombard again. Anyone have any idea whats happening or if thats a bug or what?

[memeextremist]

Howdy!

[EDIT] it wasn't your mod. I found the bug with it disabled today. sorry about that!

[NikoTheGuyDude]

I'm in that system, on the irradiated planet, and i have an issue where every time I raid it just sends me to the normal planet interaction screen until I leave the planet and come back, at which point I am given the option to raid or bombard again. Anyone have any idea whats happening or if thats a bug or what?

No idea. Never had anyone report this before, and I cant replicate it.

[NikoTheGuyDude]

What are you supposed to do with the overgrown nanoforge?

I'm wondering the same thing. I used to suppose that with a fully develop faction (I'm playing with Ind Evo) with all reseached technologies I would be somewhat able to counteract the malus but no, it's just too severe. Like I'm going from 5xx% fleet size with 1-2 smod per ship to 1000% fleet size with 3-4 dmod with all quality giving options cranked to the max. It just doesn't feel worth it. Yes I'm doubling fleet size, but they are all full of crap. I have the feeling that I should have left the nanoforge on its planet and try to just optimise production that way. It feels bad given the amount of money (even if it's kind of irrelevant given the size of my empire now) that I had to invest to cull it.

The best usage I found so far is to slap it on my BioSynth Laboratory to produce an ungodly amound of recreationnal drugs, but in in the end it's limited by the accessibility of the market (and the fact that it increases the overall hazard rating) and only represents and increase of around 35 000 / month.

In my opinion the item is really underwhelming in this state (actually I found it quite underwhelming already before the nerf, only good when my faction ship quality was already terrible at the beginning of a playthrough).

Ship quality really isnt 1:1 with fleet size in importance. 500 shiips with 5 dmods > 100 ships with 0 dmods.

[NikoTheGuyDude]

4.0.0 released, with magnetar QOL, new ships, weapons, and a new satellite sprite (as well as some bugfixes). Also a new mission!

[terminal]

Thanks for the update, the new outwork sprite looks much nicer.

[supremequesopizza]

Nice update! I just wanted to confirm per the "not save compatible."
If I already have 3.10 and haven't finished Galatia/am *somewhat* early in my playthrough, is it likely to be a problem if I update to 4.0?

[EnigmaniteZ]

RE: Not save compatible: I would like to know more exactly why this is not save compatible, out of curiosity...is it something to do with generation? a script hook inserted into a vanilla quest?

[NikoTheGuyDude]

RE: Not save compatible: I would like to know more exactly why this is not save compatible, out of curiosity...is it something to do with generation? a script hook inserted into a vanilla quest?

I removed a ship.

[NikoTheGuyDude]

Nice update! I just wanted to confirm per the "not save compatible."
If I already have 3.10 and haven't finished Galatia/am *somewhat* early in my playthrough, is it likely to be a problem if I update to 4.0?

Yes, it is 100% save breaking

[EnigmaniteZ]

RE: Not save compatible: I would like to know more exactly why this is not save compatible, out of curiosity...is it something to do with generation? a script hook inserted into a vanilla quest?

I removed a ship.

okay, that I understand. which one? maybe my scattered brain missed it in the changelog

[NikoTheGuyDude]

RE: Not save compatible: I would like to know more exactly why this is not save compatible, out of curiosity...is it something to do with generation? a script hook inserted into a vanilla quest?

I removed a ship.

okay, that I understand. which one? maybe my scattered brain missed it in the changelog

AN unused variant of the satellite. I dont know why it breaks saves, but it does.

[EnigmaniteZ]

niko_MPC_defenseSatelliteCore_swarm?
did some digging, and yeah it's baked into the save, as are any other pieces you removed: they are both saved as entity data, as  well as saved to the derelict faction as 'known' ships.

[Araneide]

What are you supposed to do with the overgrown nanoforge?

I'm wondering the same thing. I used to suppose that with a fully develop faction (I'm playing with Ind Evo) with all reseached technologies I would be somewhat able to counteract the malus but no, it's just too severe. Like I'm going from 5xx% fleet size with 1-2 smod per ship to 1000% fleet size with 3-4 dmod with all quality giving options cranked to the max. It just doesn't feel worth it. Yes I'm doubling fleet size, but they are all full of crap. I have the feeling that I should have left the nanoforge on its planet and try to just optimise production that way. It feels bad given the amount of money (even if it's kind of irrelevant given the size of my empire now) that I had to invest to cull it.

The best usage I found so far is to slap it on my BioSynth Laboratory to produce an ungodly amound of recreationnal drugs, but in in the end it's limited by the accessibility of the market (and the fact that it increases the overall hazard rating) and only represents and increase of around 35 000 / month.

In my opinion the item is really underwhelming in this state (actually I found it quite underwhelming already before the nerf, only good when my faction ship quality was already terrible at the beginning of a playthrough).

Ship quality really isnt 1:1 with fleet size in importance. 500 shiips with 5 dmods > 100 ships with 0 dmods.

Hello, yes but with the nanoforge installation are coming some changes in fleet doctrine to try to balance it out just a bit and so in the end it just doubles the fleet size and doesn't multiply it by 5. If this was the case, I could see the argument even if because of self lore reasons I would likely still not use it - as an high tech top quality faction, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I would love if there were options, maybe a research project or something to drastically reduce the maluses of the forge along with its bonuses in order to make it a viable alternative for a faction that doesn't strive on space junk.

Anyway, this mod is quite great otherwise and I thank you for the effort you put in it.