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Author Topic: Fixes for some issues that AMD Users might encounter while playing Starsector  (Read 913 times)

Unknown-J

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I've been fortunate in Starsector of having good performance with my RX 580, but I was interested in seeing how different my performance was with a Nvidia GPU so I pulled out an old GTX card and popped it in and I did get better fps, so I decided to pop my AMD GPU back in and start troubleshooting.

Things I've discovered so far:
1. Vsync in Settings.json should be set to false for anyone using an AMD GPU unless you're already getting constant 60 fps.

2. Setting forceNoVBO to false in settings.json gained me an extra 3-5 fps - Suggested by Dark.Revenant in an older post -

3. In Radeon Software DO NOT set OpenGL Triple Buffering to ON or Wait for Vertical Refresh unless you're seeing screen tearing with the default Vysnc set to false, these two settings reduced fps by around 6 fps for me when I was testing.

4. I found that my AMD GPU gets barely utilized, around 25%-34%, even in situations with a lot going on on-screen and I'm fairly certain this is in large part why AMD GPUs perform so much worse than Nvidia ones, but there is a way to increase utilization and get less obvious frame drops. In settings.json below Vsync, you can raise the fps limit to something higher than your display refresh rate and your GPU utilization will go up, and when frames drop you won't really notice due to the fps being beyond your refresh rate. Please note, however, that this will NOT increase fps in battles and will only fix low utilization for AMD GPUs when flying in Hyperspace if turning off Vsync wasn't enough for you and your GPU can handle it.

So far these are things I've found and I will continue updating this post as I try new configurations and discover new things.
If you have anything to share that could help AMD Users trying to play Starsector but are getting bad performance, then feel free to share your information and I will add it to the list.

AMD OpenGL Driver Version Info and GL Extensions: (RX 580)
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Renderer: Radeon RX 580 Series
Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Version: 4.6.14761 Core Profile Forward-Compatible Context 21.10.2 30.0.13025.5005
Shading language version: 4.60

Max texture size: 16384 x 16384
Max vertex texture image units: 32
Max texture image units: 32
Max geometry texture units: 32
Max anisotropic filtering value: 16
Max viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Max Clip Distances: 8
Max samples: 8

GL Extensions: 328

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« Last Edit: November 29, 2021, 06:50:57 PM by Unknown-J »
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greenspade

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I found that installing graphiclibs helped performance on my r9 290.

In particular using their lower quality settings and than editing it.

Edits:
- Turn explosions to false
- turn bloom to false
- turn down max lights (I used 25)
- turn shaders to false

I also seen improvements by adding jre 8
- renamed jre folder to jre 7
- copyed jre 8 folder into same place and named jre
- have two folders one named jre (jre8 in it) and the other named jre 7 (jre7 in it)

I also seen improvements by reducing resolution to 1600x900

I went from 12-13fps minimum to 20-25fps minimum in combat by doing this - I exclusively attempted to increase fps for combat.

I'm about to try your 4 tips and I'll report back my gains/differences.

Okay I have played around with these settings and I'm still bottoming out around 20-25 fps, however, there are situations like the outer map outside of combat that I am seeing a huge increase in fps.

Anything 30+ frames is technically playable so this is playable... but I mean for larger battles like a invasion for example I actually went down to 17 frames cuz I sent my max fleet size back up to 400.

Issue I see here is mainly explosions, in particular; the large rift laser that causes explosions around target when used. Suppose I could just "not use it" but after farming enough of them to actually equip 4 on one ship and capitalize on that kinda damage it feels bad to not use it purely cuz it destroys my fps every  time I fire it. Easy 5+ fps loss by just firing this laser and watching the explosions cripples this game while my 290 gpu reports 9% use, doubly so when mixed with a ship being destroyed explosion.

I feel like a setting to turn them off or turn on a "barely using resources" setting for these would improve performance alot for amd users who are having this issue.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2022, 10:38:17 PM by greenspade »
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pedro1_1

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If you are using Windows 11, update your computer to the newest 22H2 build, because that build has far better OpenGL drivers(+50% performace) than other versions of windows.

If you are on windows 10, you will need to wait until AMD releases the newest drivers.
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