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Blurple Berry

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Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« on: August 13, 2021, 09:35:55 AM »

i dont see the point in maintaining good relations to factions above favorable status
there seems to be no meaningful impact in the game

tarifs are the same
fast picket controls for blackmarket trade are the same
access to wares is unchainged
factions still send hostile expeditions
pather cells are the same
pirate raids are the same
hegemony controls are the same

am i wrong about this or missing something?
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 09:42:52 AM »

You get better stuff in the military market, if you have a commission.

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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 09:47:09 AM »

I don't think pirates raid if you are high faction rep with them, at least not in Nexerelin.

Unsure about Pathers, they definitely do while neutral-ish rep, working my way up to getting them friendly, but again also in Nexerelin.

I don't think the mod changes what pirates or pathers do to player faction with high rep but can't be 100% sure.
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Blurple Berry

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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2021, 10:18:03 AM »

You get better stuff in the military market, if you have a commission.

yeah you are right ofc, but i am talking about friendly and cooperative level relations and not commissions

which seem to be entirely pointless
it makes no real difference if you have 10 points or 100 points level relations

the only thing is that you can pay 25 relation points to avert an expedition
which is also kinda pointless because i only pay 5 points when i simply destroy them
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Megas

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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2021, 10:32:08 AM »

More relations is just a bigger cushion to how long player can ignore expeditions or how many times he can stealth raid them for goodies before he needs to grind more rep back up.
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Blurple Berry

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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2021, 10:50:25 AM »

More relations is just a bigger cushion to how long player can ignore expeditions or how many times he can stealth raid them for goodies before he needs to grind more rep back up.

yeah that seems to be the only practical difference

given the implication of a "cooperative relationship" or even just the flavortext in the game itself, that is rather disappointing

unless there is more subtle changes i am not aware of
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2021, 10:58:59 AM »

It used to decrease the frequency of random inspections (which are no longer a thing) and made it less likely to get harassed after buying from the black market/running up suspicion there. I don't know if those things are still true.
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Blurple Berry

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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2021, 11:59:44 AM »

It used to decrease the frequency of random inspections (which are no longer a thing) and made it less likely to get harassed after buying from the black market/running up suspicion there. I don't know if those things are still true.

maybe i got unlucky but ive been controlled for minimal blackmarket activity 3 times even tho i am friendly with the hegemony
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2021, 12:21:31 PM »

I use relations as a currency to be spent on piracy.

Raid the hell out of hegemony freight routes and then sell it all back when they have horrific supply problems.

Through the black market if possible.
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2021, 07:12:20 PM »

You get to buy better things in military markets, most importantly at cooperative you get access to buying capitals from them(a rarity otherwise, because you need to either luck out on RNG to find a derelict one or a blueprint for one to use in Heavy industry)
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2021, 08:05:27 PM »

You get to buy better things in military markets, most importantly at cooperative you get access to buying capitals from them(a rarity otherwise, because you need to either luck out on RNG to find a derelict one or a blueprint for one to use in Heavy industry)

again, commissions are a fair point but i mean relation on its own
lets say you are a "trader" and wanna be "friends" with everybody

i dont mind occasional hostilities, sabotage, betrayal or whatever but imo there should be some benefit to high relations outside of ranking up your "commission level" - since you can do that only with one faction and are basically a slave to whatever politics they have going on
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2021, 08:38:53 PM »

Relationships system is a placeholder, you can bet that Alex will expand on it.
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2021, 07:04:26 AM »

Military market beyond +10 relations are pointless without commission (everything good locked behind commission), and player can only get one at a time...
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Re: Highly positive relationships seem to be meaningless
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2021, 12:20:22 PM »

High faction rep grants the following:
  • You are stopped for black market trading less frequently IMO.
  • Assuming you use a story point per raid, you will be able to raid high rep factions more frequently before they become hostile to you.
  • Assuming transponder off and keep it off when stopped by faction fleets, you can attack and kill these fleets more often before owning factions become hostile.
  • You will be offered a commission.
  • If commissioned, you can buy military ships.
  • You can "pay off" inspections or raids with faction rep.

That is pretty much it in no particular order. Enjoy. In later patches, when the Orders, Command tab becomes operational, you will likely  be able to do special things with factions with which you have high faction rep.
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