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REYNAULD

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Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« on: April 08, 2021, 02:01:51 PM »

So hu yeah, I raided the hegemony (or the persean league, can't remember) a few days and got Onslaught blueprint, that kind of things. But also Onslaught XIV blueprints ?

Thought it was a new feature from the new update and found it lame to be able to produce XIV type ships now, but then talked about it in the discord and they made me realise it really isn't supposed to happen.

My game doesn't have any mods, just to say it.

Attached is a screenshot of one of my faction's fleet, using almost only XIV ships lmao.
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 02:05:52 PM »

As far as I understand getting XIV blueprints from raiding Hegemony heavy industry/orbital works is intended. The Hegemony know those blueprints, so when you raid their heavy industry/orbital works for blueprints it's possible to acquire them. I think the only exception is the XIV Legion blueprint, though that one might have been added to the Hegemony faction since 0.9.1.

That should only apply to the Hegemony, though. If you raid the Persean League and get XIV blueprints something is definitely bugged.
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 02:09:16 PM »

As far as I understand getting XIV blueprints from raiding Hegemony heavy industry/orbital works is intended. The Hegemony know those blueprints, so when you raid their heavy industry/orbital works for blueprints it's possible to acquire them. I think the only exception is the XIV Legion blueprint, though that one might have been added to the Hegemony faction since 0.9.1.

That should only apply to the Hegemony, though. If you raid the Persean League and get XIV blueprints something is definitely bugged.

Sure about that ? The litteral description of the XIV ships is that they are "survivors" of the old-era, and couldn't be produced using today's means. If you could actually produce them in mass that would make the whole idea of finding those unique ships very lame ngl
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 02:29:00 PM »

Pretty sure, yes. I'll admit it does create a problem with the ship description, but I suspect there's some kind of lore explanation for that. Or failing that a technicality explanation, and failing that the description is just plain wrong. Wouldn't be the first time, I'd still like to meet these pirates who supposedly bypass lone Mules in search of easier pray.
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 02:31:30 PM »

Tbh I have no real problem if the blueprint is acquirable, even tho its kinda lame. The thing is, on the discord it never happened to anyone else and I was unable to get them again in a different save I made today
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 02:37:34 PM »

Welp I asked the discord again and looks like it might be intended and not a bug ? Disappointed but I guess that solves the issue xd
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 03:29:46 PM »

Thought it was a new feature from the new update and found it lame to be able to produce XIV type ships now, but then talked about it in the discord and they made me realise it really isn't supposed to happen.

"lame"

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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 03:31:05 PM »

I got a Legion XIV blueprint! From the bar event with the book, though, not from raiding or exploration.
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 03:32:41 PM »


"lame"

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Well the whole idea of the XIV being unique very old ships you salvage while exploring was really cool, but since you can produce them with blueprints like any other ship, they lose a lot of weight/coolness in my opinion
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2021, 03:49:02 PM »

Well the whole idea of the XIV being unique very old ships you salvage while exploring was really cool, but since you can produce them with blueprints like any other ship, they lose a lot of weight/coolness in my opinion

the battlegroup legion is the only low tech ship i use, and the fact that we can now produce them makes them much more usefull as mainstay ships

meaning i can acutally use them as line ships instead of only keeping them as flags and banking all others i find in case of.... "failure"
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 04:30:40 PM »

I got a Legion XIV blueprint! From the bar event with the book, though, not from raiding or exploration.

Same here, payed about 200k over the course of 5 visits and she gave it to me, the research station it was based in also came with a Revanant blueprint as well
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2021, 05:45:06 PM »

Well the whole idea of the XIV being unique very old ships you salvage while exploring was really cool, but since you can produce them with blueprints like any other ship, they lose a lot of weight/coolness in my opinion

the battlegroup legion is the only low tech ship i use, and the fact that we can now produce them makes them much more usefull as mainstay ships

meaning i can acutally use them as line ships instead of only keeping them as flags and banking all others i find in case of.... "failure"
With the d-mod removal skill and the guaranteed recovery officer skill, you don't really need to worry about that.  The only way you could end up losing them is if you lost your entire fleet.
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2021, 05:48:01 PM »

Well the whole idea of the XIV being unique very old ships you salvage while exploring was really cool, but since you can produce them with blueprints like any other ship, they lose a lot of weight/coolness in my opinion

the battlegroup legion is the only low tech ship i use, and the fact that we can now produce them makes them much more usefull as mainstay ships

meaning i can acutally use them as line ships instead of only keeping them as flags and banking all others i find in case of.... "failure"
With the d-mod removal skill and the guaranteed recovery officer skill, you don't really need to worry about that.  The only way you could end up losing them is if you lost your entire fleet.

acutally no... i had lost ships with "garanteed" recovery due to the requirements of storypoints... OOOOR insufficient supplies... which kills your ships without chance of recovery
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 05:57:40 PM »

acutally no... i had lost ships with "garanteed" recovery due to the requirements of storypoints... OOOOR insufficient supplies... which kills your ships without chance of recovery
Are you saying that some of the "guaranteed" recovery can fall under "difficult" recovery and require story points to recover?  If so, that is really lame.

The point of guaranteed recovery is to get your ships back for free.  If I need to waste story points because the game randomly decides guaranteed recovery will be difficult and needs story points to recover (when that was not a thing last release), then... it is not guaranteed without significant cost, and might as well be not guaranteed.
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Re: Got XIV legion blueprints from raiding ?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2021, 05:59:41 PM »

acutally no... i had lost ships with "garanteed" recovery due to the requirements of storypoints... OOOOR insufficient supplies... which kills your ships without chance of recovery
Are you saying that some of the "guaranteed" recovery can fall under "difficult" recovery and require story points to recover?  If so, that is really lame.

The point of guaranteed recovery is to get your ships back for free.  If I need to waste story points because the game randomly decides guaranteed recovery will be difficult and needs story points to recover (when that was not a thing last release), then... it is not guaranteed without significant cost, and might as well be not guaranteed.

i mean... it literally says so, "almost always" recoverable
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