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Havoc

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station destroyed by pirates
« on: May 18, 2020, 09:34:45 AM »

hi, just had a strange bug
I have to reload

I was fighting againtst pirates in Hybrasil
planet1,helped TT killed all pirates
planet2,helped TT killed all pirates, station was destroyed by pirates->relations to TT went down to -45 :o after I won

my relations to pirates are on that run: -100
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2020, 09:57:12 AM »

Thank you for the report! Just doing a quick test, haven't been able to reproduce this so far.

Are you running with any mods? You don't happen to have a screenshot of the reputation change, do you? Also: any chance you might have done significant friendly fire damage to the station? Do you have any other thoughts on what might've triggered it?
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 11:21:14 AM »

I have installed today 3 mods:
-console commands 3
-lazy lib 2.4f
-version checker 2.0

not sure about friendly fire, I don't thik much ff because my fleet is weak and use not so much rockets

4 lasher(so)
4 cerberus
2 drover
2 hammerhead(so)

edit:
I have also save copy savegame, but it is several seconds after the destruction...after I realized the something bad happens sound
« Last Edit: May 18, 2020, 11:24:49 AM by Havoc »
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 11:30:00 AM »

hi, just had a strange bug
I have to reload

I was fighting againtst pirates in Hybrasil
planet1,helped TT killed all pirates
planet2,helped TT killed all pirates, station was destroyed by pirates->relations to TT went down to -45 :o after I won

my relations to pirates are on that run: -100

Was there any friendly fire? E.g. did any stray missiles from your ships or anything of the sorts hit the station? Or did any TT ships bump with their hull into the shield of your ships and get destroyed? It's possible to lose rep in unexpected ways like that.
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 11:40:56 AM »

how much damage counts?
I thought it counts if I do serious damage to something

is there something like an replay function in the game?
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Alex

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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2020, 11:50:57 AM »

how much damage counts?
I thought it counts if I do serious damage to something

You'd need to do pretty significant hull damage. But, say, accidentally putting a Reaper into an ally would likely do the job. The allies are more tolerant of damage if they really needed help in the first place, btw.

I suspect that this is probably what happened here... hmm.

is there something like an replay function in the game?

There isn't, no.
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2020, 04:04:14 PM »

Just remembered another very likely cause.

Star fortresses class stations have small vessels that circle around the station. These do not avoid any obstacles, so if you have a larger ship e.g. capital ship crossing path with one of those, they will keep bumping into the ship's shield until it is destroyed. This is also classed as friendly fire.
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2020, 05:54:44 PM »

Might this be the same bug where only the final prick to the station counts as damaging it for the purposes of battle contribution?
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2020, 06:17:48 PM »

Hmm, this very vaguely rings a bell, but I don't quite remember it. Still, if that's the case, then iirc that should be fixed, so that's good.
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Re: station destroyed by pirates
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2020, 01:41:20 AM »

Just remembered another very likely cause.

Star fortresses class stations have small vessels that circle around the station. These do not avoid any obstacles, so if you have a larger ship e.g. capital ship crossing path with one of those, they will keep bumping into the ship's shield until it is destroyed. This is also classed as friendly fire.

i think this could be possible
my biggest ship was drover and hammerhead

but I was bumping against this space station obstacles and some of my ships

just shoot down one engine from my so fleet and they start dancing
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