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[arcibalde]

OKi doki here is small update. I reduced cargo space on Faithoper and Extinctioner so they are now in normal range. Added tons of small ballistics to Gate Station - now if someone capture Faithoper or two can armed them properly.

Relics MOD v3.1


Oh yes OP updated Feedback is appreciated 

[krogoth]

Could someone reupload last version?

[arcibalde]

Errr, whats wrong? It's still there.

[Lopunny Zen]

the ordanance points for the ships is wrong...some or even half have too little ordanance points...which means i cant fully arm them which is very annoying...

[arcibalde]

the ordanance points for the ships is wrong...some or even half have too little ordanance points...which means i cant fully arm them which is very annoying...

They have maximum ordinance points according to formula used to balance out vanilla ships. All ships. Their weapons are OP expensive because it's energy weapons with HE dmg. There must be some drawbacks or else ships would be over powered. If i put them more OP then you can fit more vents and capacitors if you put normal weapons or more Hull mods and if i lower OP cost for weapons they wouldn't be too different from ballistic weapons with HE dmg. All ships have vanilla balanced ordinance points and purifiers weapons have huge drawbacks in OP cost because they roll as explosive dmg dealers in energy slots.

[Lopunny Zen]

make th eweapons a bit weaker..anything to add the full pay loads....only a very few can load them out fully

[arcibalde]

Ill see, compare pur weapons value with vanilla again...

[KriiEiter]

Ill see, compare pur weapons value with vanilla again...

I almost never fit out vanilla ships with full payloads in favor of more vents, or capacitors, or hull mods.  You have to make sacrifices sometimes to make the ship better overall. 

[Lopunny Zen]

but you cant put vents or anything on them and they still cant fully fit themselves...or make the other ships have a little more points..like the small frigate with 6 weapons...it can only get 4...there has to be a way to get the other half fully refittable

[arcibalde]

but you cant put vents or anything on them and they still cant fully fit themselves...or make the other ships have a little more points..like the small frigate with 6 weapons...it can only get 4...there has to be a way to get the other half fully refittable

That one is Pusher and it have 50 OP and 6 small energy mounts. So you can fit in 5 Blazo MKII in there.


OK i checked OP values for weapons and i didn't see anything odd with them. That weapons IS design to be usable on vanilla ships it's NOT design to be use ONLY on Purifiers ships. According to lore Purifiers decide to make MKII versions of their weapons that can be fitted on vanilla ships and they decided to make new versions of their ships which can be manageable with crews. My point is that Purifiers weapons isn't "theirs" weapons. Look at Purifiers fleets, you will see theirs ORIGINAL weapons on ALL theirs ships. That is weapons design to be on Purifiers ships not MKII versions.

[arcibalde]

Oh and if you wannt to change OP values for ships, just go in mod dir\data\hulls\ship_data.csv   Open it with Excel or OpenOffice find column with "ordnance points" value find ship ID and change OP to whatever you want
   

[Lopunny Zen]

so....is there any way to get a original version of the guns?

[arcibalde]

Well, yes, you need to attack and capture Purifiers ships. And original weapons can be used ONLY on original ships, because they (original weapons) have 999 OP cost   

But it's much easier to change ships OP or weapons OP then to capture one...

[Lopunny Zen]

i see....

[arcibalde]

Ok, dude, seriously, you are creeping me out! Too many "." in your sentences... You sound like mister Burns (it's from Simpsons cartoon)... Creeeeepeeeeeeeeeeee...