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[Deshara]

is pretty good. I like it, I'm using it as my flagship with converted hangers; fielding broadswords, an ion laser and three tactical lasers and it's a monster.

[Clockwork Owl]

With ramming being a viable tactics.
I can't pilot it that well and the firepower certainly leaves something to be desired - but oh isn't it so fun to fly.

[TaLaR]

I find it quite lackluster.

Nowhere near powerful enough to challenge a Hammerhead head on and not maneuverable enough to get behind it (2 chained ability uses do not quite get you there). This is with both sides skill-less and Hammerhead not even being properly optimized (Balanced sim variant).
Plus it's just awkward to pilot with need to target/shield one direction while facing another for optimal ship system use.

Yes, player-piloted it can win against Hammerhead by using Sabots. But this applies to anything with medium Sabots, even Buffalo mk2 or Vigilance. Sabots are single use doping similar to SO, just in a different way.

[Grievous69]

Yea it kinda feels weird to fly at first but I got used to it quickly. I must say, the ship system is really good, I thought it would be twitchy but it looks great. And yeah it's not really meant to go toe to toe with other destroyers since it's a light destroyer but I just can't help it and see it only as a support ship. Also shouldn't it have higher base speed? Even the description says there was no room for armor and flux components yet it has 100 speed, same as Medusa which looks like a tank compared to the sleek Shrike.

[Embolism]

Also shouldn't it have higher base speed? Even the description says there was no room for armor and flux components yet it has 100 speed, same as Medusa which looks like a tank compared to the sleek Shrike.

That's my main problem with the Shrike. It's basically a weaker Medusa in almost every way, and it's making the Medusa look like a beefy tank in comparison when the Medusa is meant to be the sleek, speedy Black Ops ship.

[Thaago]

I find it quite lackluster.

Nowhere near powerful enough to challenge a Hammerhead head on and not maneuverable enough to get behind it (2 chained ability uses do not quite get you there). This is with both sides skill-less and Hammerhead not even being properly optimized (Balanced sim variant).
Plus it's just awkward to pilot with need to target/shield one direction while facing another for optimal ship system use.

Yes, player-piloted it can win against Hammerhead by using Sabots. But this applies to anything with medium Sabots, even Buffalo mk2 or Vigilance. Sabots are single use doping similar to SO, just in a different way.

Wait, the high mobility opportunistic strike ship can't challenge the strongest destroyer in a head on, no fleet or distraction duel?!

[Goumindong]

I find it quite lackluster.

Nowhere near powerful enough to challenge a Hammerhead head on and not maneuverable enough to get behind it (2 chained ability uses do not quite get you there). This is with both sides skill-less and Hammerhead not even being properly optimized (Balanced sim variant).
Plus it's just awkward to pilot with need to target/shield one direction while facing another for optimal ship system use.

Yes, player-piloted it can win against Hammerhead by using Sabots. But this applies to anything with medium Sabots, even Buffalo mk2 or Vigilance. Sabots are single use doping similar to SO, just in a different way.

The Hammerhead is the strongest 1v destroyer in the game and is a straight brawler that requires no AI skill. Of course it’s going to beat the Shrike in a duel.

The Shrike is a cheap (9 vs 12 DP compared to medusa) and efficient heavy blaster platform for player use (Medusa has cap issues with 2 but shrike with the med missile slot does a lot better). It’s not a perfect ship but it seems fine enough.

Edit: snark post alternative incoming. You know what can’t “cheese” a Hammerhead with medium sabots? A Hammerhead or a Medusa. As they don’t have a medium missile slot.

[Deshara]

Y'all, it's a light destroyer. It can't stand up to a heavy destroyer; it isn't meant to punch up, it's meant as a strike destroyer, as a light support destroyer, or as a hunter killer for taking down frigates. Understand roles and limitations

[Goumindong]

Also since I don’t want to make another thread and the Odyssey is a big shrike I figured we could talk about it here.

I love it. It has enough cap to near perms fire 2 plasma cannons and it can use the large missile for MIRVs... which turn on a dime when they split; negating the turrets tiring arc issue.

Has anyone bonked anything significant with it yet? How much damage can you do?

[TaLaR]

Wait, the high mobility opportunistic strike ship can't challenge the strongest destroyer in a head on, no fleet or distraction duel?!

Well, I said player-piloted. Which is enough to let the better ships hit above their weight.

Medusa can both defeat head on less optimized Hammerhead variants or get behind better ones with skimmer (not quite stick to engines, but enough for quick vent, gaining upper hand as result).
It also can defeat any non-carrier cruiser (or at least could in 0.81. Better flux usage by AI might curb this).

Shrike loses miserably against stock balanced Hammerhead.

Some player-piloted frigates can do it (common Lasher being one of them, though admittedly it needs SO to win against proper Hammerhead variants).

Edit: snark post alternative incoming. You know what can’t “cheese” a Hammerhead with medium sabots? A Hammerhead or a Medusa. As they don’t have a medium missile slot.

Because they don't need to. They can do it with normal variant that has long term viability (instead of being out of Sabots after 1-2 kills).

AI won't use Sabot variant properly and player has better stuff to pilot.

[SCC]

When you think about it, Shrike is just a Vigilance with point defence. In general, I find it below the trio, but not necessarily bad. The only issue is that without a heavy blaster it desperately needs missiles or support, which means it's either a limited use ship or an escort.

[Embolism]

When you think about it, Shrike is just a Vigilance with point defence.

.....

Oh God you're right.

Well not quite, but the epiphany is disquieting.

[Darloth]

Would it be better if it had a Large missile?

[Embolism]

Would it be better if it had a Large missile?

It's not meant to be a missile boat.

All I really want is for it to be faster. It's probably technically faster than the Medusa in the long run when you compare Plasma Burn to Phase Skimmer, but given it's a "light" destroyer (the only one with this designation) it should be more than a little bit faster IMO.

[Draba]

When you think about it, Shrike is just a Vigilance with point defence.

I did pilot it a bit and IMO it's more like an expensive, slow wolf that has a worse active system.
Only had a pilum for the mediums and no missile skills but 2 wolves can get 4x2 hammers or something similar anyway.
Really not a fan, just not enough punch even for antifighter tactical laser setup.