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[Dri]

https://twitter.com/amosolov/status/846772589959806981

Thanks to Aron0621 and The Soldier for their efforts in welding this beast back together! It was you guys that probably got Alex to post the real deal!

As for the ship, NOICE! Having two forward large ballistic turrets means it'll have some serious stopping power. I wonder though, are those FIVE medium missile mounts "composite" meaning you could slot medium ballistics in there or are they missile-only slots? Also, it is defs vulnerable to the rear what with possibly only two small ballistic mounts available for PD!

What are those other 3 fighters?! I only recognize the Tridents!

How long did this one take you to make, David? Was it one of the easier capitals to put together or tougher?

[Midnight Kitsune]

I'm seeing some MAJOR unbalances in this ship, especially compared to the Astral...
-1500 armor
-Flux stats near that of the astral (Same cap and only 100 less dissipation)
-At least 40 more OP than the Astral had in the fighter blog post if the Astral got a 20% boost
-FIVE medium COMPOSITES!!!
-Much more focused firepower
-Less than half the shield upkeep of the Astral
-Same speed as the Astral

Spoiler

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Spoiler has pics of both the Astral from the fighter redesign blog and the new Legion from Alex's Twitter

[Dri]

I suppose balance kinda hinges around just how powerful the new fighter system is. Obviously the Astral has 2 more hangers than the Legion—how much is that gonna be worth? I do think the Astral should be around 10 units of speed faster, though.

[Linnis]

The thing that bothers me is that there is 8 runways on the legion that fits 4 fighter wings. (2 runway per wing).
But the astral has 20 runways, not counting those tiny things on the right side that might be for drones. (~3 runway per wing)

[Thaago]

That is a beautiful ship.

Re: Balance.
When comparing it to the Onslaught and Dominator, I think it looks good. Depending on how potent fighters turn out to be, of course. 5 medium composites is a big plus - thats either a heck of a lot of ballistic firepower, or a heck of a lot of missiles. Of course, the shield on this thing is made of suck, but thats expected. Hopefully its fighters will keep things off its vulnerable butt.

I don't know about the Astral - it all depends on how powerful 6 fighter wings are compared to 4. I don't think the armor is too big a deal, because the Astrals shield is so much better.

[Midnight Kitsune]

I suppose balance kinda hinges around just how powerful the new fighter system is. Obviously the Astral has 2 more hangers than the Legion—how much is that gonna be worth? I do think the Astral should be around 10 units of speed faster, though.

Even then, the Astral is completely starved for OP and it also depends much MUCH more on its fighters as it doesn't have the firepower of a Dominator built in >.<
I can see someone just putting Talons in the fighter slots and using the Legion as a cheap cap. It most likely will be as cheap or even cheaper than the Onslaught to deploy

[Gothars]

Reminds me a bit of a (short, stubby, starsectorized) Battlestar Galactica. Which really makes me want to pilot it, actually. Best detail: he two big flight control domes. Dig the design.

The thing that bothers me is that there is 8 runways on the legion that fits 4 fighter wings. (2 runway per wing).
But the astral has 20 runways, not counting those tiny things on the right side that might be for drones. (~3 runway per wing)

I'd count them as 16, launching fore and aft.

I'm seeing some MAJOR unbalances in this ship, especially compared to the Astral...

Don't forget the active system of the Astral, Recall device, which supposedly instantly teleports all fighters back for repairs. That could give the Astral's wing's a a big advantage.

[Mysterhay]

Do we know the Legion's active system?

[Gothars]

No, but I would not expect anything fancy.

[PCCL]

Reminds me a bit of a (short, stubby, starsectorized) Battlestar Galactica. Which really makes me want to pilot it, actually. Best detail: he two big flight control domes. Dig the design.

aaaaaaaand now I'm tempted to mod the legion's battlecarrier designation to battlestar...

thanks gothars

[Mysterhay]

Accelerated ammo feeder, is not fancy :p

Fast missile racks would also be insane. As would any speed booster.

[Dri]

Burn Drive would work and could certainly be helpful but, well, I think that system is already a mite overused at this point.

If we're gonna reuse a system then yeah, I'd go with Accelerated Ammo Feeder. Watch it be one of the Flare/Chaff variants though! >_<

[Wyvern]

Maybe it has a burn drive... for its fighters!  (With temporary fighter range boost along with the speed!)

[Inventor Raccoon]

Maybe it has a burn drive... for its fighters!  (With temporary fighter range boost along with the speed!)

Ooo. I just realised that we don't have carriers that buff their fighters. That should be a thing, like a temporary AI takeover or comm link.

I'm seeing some MAJOR unbalances in this ship, especially compared to the Astral...
-1500 armor
-Flux stats near that of the astral (Same cap and only 100 less dissipation)
-At least 40 more OP than the Astral had in the fighter blog post if the Astral got a 20% boost
-FIVE medium COMPOSITES!!!
-Much more focused firepower
-Less than half the shield upkeep of the Astral
-Same speed as the Astral

Spoiler

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Spoiler has pics of both the Astral from the fighter redesign blog and the new Legion from Alex's Twitter

The Legion does take just under double flux from shield damage, though. And it has two less hangars. Can't underestimate the weapons array, though, it's probably going to be a very independent ship that won't need much escorting and can fight on the frontlines, while the Astral does better if you can keep it away from the fight.

[PCCL]

let's not forget the astral also has 2 large missile mounts...

Hurricane MIRV's don't mess around