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[Maethendias]

i noticed that graphics lib makes performance in combat... "unpleasant"

constant microstutters when things start happening, have already pinpointed the problem to be graphics lib specifically.

problems only started appearing after updating graphics lib to its current version.

[Dark.Revenant]

CPU/GPU models?

The only thing that was changed was one of the distortion shaders.  Try disabling distortions in the options to see if it goes away.

[Maethendias]

i tried disabling and enabling a few things already, without success (aside from disabling shaders alltogether)

i7 -4790 and gtx 1050

[Dark.Revenant]

Which settings?

[Histidine]

Also how many mods? My own 1050 can handle only so much faction mod content before its 2 GB VRAM gets used up completely in battles.

[Maethendias]

Also how many mods? My own 1050 can handle only so much faction mod content before its 2 GB VRAM gets used up completely in battles.

1, i allocated 4gb, 2 i tested graphic lib by itself, also happens even in missions

[Maethendias]

Which settings?

default mod settings (the only things i changed are the header flags, you know "enable/disable bloom" or "enable/disable distortions", )

starsectors settings, 100 ui scaling, no anti, 1920 x 1080, windowed fullscreen, vsync yes, no devmode, and i think thats it

it has to have something to do with the shaders, cause like i said, disabling them alltogether fixes that stuttering

[Histidine]

Quick check: Is this a laptop or such with an integrated card, where the GTX 1050 maybe isn't being used with Starsector?

[Maethendias]

Quick check: Is this a laptop or such with an integrated card, where the GTX 1050 maybe isn't being used with Starsector?

nope, full tower setup

[BreenBB]

Interesting, new graphic features are planned? I think good one is ability to repaint ships, like many games have ability to paint weapons/vehicles via color overlay and hue shifts, using black and white masks to determine parts of textures which doesn't need to be painted. I think its neat and more noticeable feature that normal maps. The idea is make faction ships to have same color scheme without actually making alot of .skin files of same ships, and make player faction look more uniform for example, less like different colored mess.

[Ruddygreat]

Interesting, new graphic features are planned? I think good one is ability to repaint ships, like many games have ability to paint weapons/vehicles via color overlay and hue shifts, using black and white masks to determine parts of textures which doesn't need to be painted. I think its neat and more noticeable feature that normal maps. The idea is make faction ships to have same color scheme without actually making alot of .skin files of same ships, and make player faction look more uniform for example, less like different colored mess.

Creating ship skins on the fly is outside of the scope of the mod and would probably be a pain in the ass to implement, alongside looking awful (more work than you'd think goes into making a good looking skin, they're not just simple masks!)

[BreenBB]

Many games have their weapons/vehicles paintable via masks, and its looks good, and if possible to implement normal maps and lighting effects with custom masks, this one is definitely possible, just overlay colors or make hue shifts. Speaking of scope and relevance, its same visual thing like normal maps and other graphic features. Just interesting why people against it, its much more noticeable and rather than normal maps ingame.

[Tartiflette]

Most of those games are either 3d games that can use layered shaders, or 2d games designed from the ground up for that feature by leaving areas feature-less and color-less so that those can be tweaked.

As you said, adding this feature to Starsector would imply creating masks for every unit in the game, for vanilla and every mod. That is a ridiculously huge undertaking, and a significant drain of Vram.

TLDR, however nice it would be, it's just not practical to implement.

[BreenBB]

That is a ridiculously huge undertaking, and a significant drain of Vram.

This can be said for this normal map feature, also requires effort of making normal maps for every ship too and uses vram too. Main advantage of mask method though, its what I think it will definitely consume less vram and time rather than making different colored ships as .skin. and making like ten of different colored Eagles for example.

Well it was just a suggestion, in case if something new is planned, and speaking of creating masks for every unit, it also not necessary it could be optional option for a modders, since yes, it will take time.

[Tartiflette]

Each mask will consume _exactly_ as much Vram as one normal map, or as one skinned ship sprite. Uncompressed images are just like that. Unlike normal-maps however, you can't shove your sprites into a conversion software to automate the entire process of making masks.