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[Vind]

Can someone help me with question about vengeful reputation. In my game i got vengeful with diktat by simply fighting the patrols and never chasing them down. Point is bounty hunting does nothing to improve reputation with them even 150k+ fleets wont improve situation and hegemony bugs me about my hostility towards diktat friends. So im stuck with it and this is planned behaviour? In previous version you got vengeful only for killing running ships.

[Megas]

You get Vengeful now if you shoot ships, regardless of pursuit.  It still caps at Hostile if you simply flee without shooting back (for those attempting pure trade start).

Vengeful is impossible to improve, with one exception:  Open hostilities event.  If your commissioned faction goes to war with another, and you are a good little attack dog by shooting up the new enemy ships to the point of Vengeful, when that event ends (takes about a year), relations with that faction reset to suspicious.  You may still be locked out of markets for a while if you kill enough ships near the market.

[TJJ]

So the only irreversible Vengeful relation is with pirates?

[Vind]

In my game reputation never changed back after war with diktat was ended. I guess it was bad idea playing save file from 0.7 instead of beginning anew. I got 2-3 wars with different factions and reputation never changed to suspicious afterwards. Thanks for explaining how it is working.

[Alex]

Looking at the code, what'll do it is 1) killing large system bounty fleets and 2) doing person bounties.

You get Vengeful now if you shoot ships, regardless of pursuit.  It still caps at Hostile if you simply flee without shooting back (for those attempting pure trade start).

Vengeful is impossible to improve, with one exception:  Open hostilities event.  If your commissioned faction goes to war with another, and you are a good little attack dog by shooting up the new enemy ships to the point of Vengeful, when that event ends (takes about a year), relations with that faction reset to suspicious.  You may still be locked out of markets for a while if you kill enough ships near the market.

That shouldn't work; it'll only revert back to the lower of (suspicious, what your relationship was prior to hostilities).

[Megas]

Looking at the code, what'll do it is 1) killing large system bounty fleets and 2) doing person bounties.

Are you sure?  At least in 0.7a, I did max level named bounties for Vengeful factions, and my relations did not improve.

That shouldn't work; it'll only revert back to the lower of (suspicious, what your relationship was prior to hostilities).

In my game, I was neutral (0 rep.) with Diktat before war was declared.  I slaughtered some fleets, made to -100 rep.  After the war ended, rep rose to -10.

At least we cannot cheat the system by evil doin' then hope war breaks out to wipe the slate clean.

[Alex]

Looking at the code, what'll do it is 1) killing large system bounty fleets and 2) doing person bounties.

Are you sure?  At least in 0.7a, I did max level named bounties for Vengeful factions, and my relations did not improve.

... fairly. I may have fixed that as a result of reading the forums but it never made it into the patch notes.

That shouldn't work; it'll only revert back to the lower of (suspicious, what your relationship was prior to hostilities).

In my game, I was neutral (0 rep.) with Diktat before war was declared.  I slaughtered some fleets, made to -100 rep.  After the war ended, rep rose to -10.

Right, that makes sense.

[Dri]

Question about that: say you manage to get -60 rep already with a faction but then you get a commission with a different faction that then goes to war with the one you were already on bad terms with. After the war, would you be boosted up to only -10?

[Alex]

Question about that: say you manage to get -60 rep already with a faction but then you get a commission with a different faction that then goes to war with the one you were already on bad terms with. After the war, would you be boosted up to only -10?

That shouldn't work; it'll only revert back to the lower of (suspicious, what your relationship was prior to hostilities).