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[phampanvn1998]

tho, all that said, I do have to admit I haven't touch the storm, which perhaps is the ship you are referring to as "da carrier"? the description said it boost the damage of the fighters on board, which would be the wanzer, but the skill description said it boost the on-board weapons instead. Very confusing. Also, having only 2 fighters slot already make it a worse carrier than the heron, even if the ship description on the storm is correct.

[Killsode]

i do suppose the pandemonium is pretty costly to field for what it is, but i've really never had any problems with it when i do actually field it. and with wanzers i think you're focusing too much on their replacement time and forgetting what hurt they can dish out, as many of the heavier wanzers are equivalent to light frigates.

[Tartiflette]

May I remind everyone that the Pandemonium is explicitly described as inefficient. Unless using a very optimized missile build, you are better off using two Maelstroms than a Panda.

[Killsode]

May I remind everyone that the Pandemonium is explicitly described as inefficient. Unless using a very optimized missile build, you are better off using two Maelstroms than a Panda.

yep, and since your primary source of actually obtaining one is fairly easy since its just floating around a star asking to be salvaged, its probably a fair balance
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[Ryers]

missile Panda with frontal SRAB, range and tracking ups, bloody MLETS! and that system keeps you in the fight with more flux managment and mobility for size. I actually love the Panda as it is shes one of my fav skill dependant 'power' ships

[phampanvn1998]

I actually expect someone to point out where I am wrong, not subtly confirming my suspicion. I actually fell in love with my pandemonium despite all her shortage. But my min-maxing evil self will not let me touch that ship if I know it will never be at the level of efficiency it deserves to be.

[Tartiflette]

Don't get me wrong, in competent hands it's a terrifying monster of a ship. Just not the "haha, I flip a switch and now I won" kind. I only said it's inefficient for its cost due to the heightened monthly maintenance.

[SpaceDrake]

May I remind everyone that the Pandemonium is explicitly described as inefficient. Unless using a very optimized missile build, you are better off using two Maelstroms than a Panda.

yep, and since your primary source of actually obtaining one is fairly easy since its just floating around a star asking to be salvaged, its probably a fair balance
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The Panda does show up in larger Diable fleets (especially in Nex) and in their military markets on occasion.

[phampanvn1998]

Don't get me wrong, in competent hands it's a terrifying monster of a ship. Just not the "haha, I flip a switch and now I won" kind. I only said it's inefficient for its cost due to the heightened monthly maintenance.

oh ok then. I guess I can't complain since I got that ship for free. What about the storm carrier? It's skill doesn't match the ship description. Is there no dedicated carrier for wanzer in this mod?

[Tartiflette]

There are no pure carriers, and that is a very deliberate choice. Wanzers performance stacks very fast if you mix them with a few arbitrator fodder and micro-missiles PD distraction. Having a dedicated carrier would make them spammable, but "press Z and watch the light-show" is not a compelling gameplay in my book thus their absence.

Don't take my word for it, you can find feedback where people removed the drawback of the Wanzer gantry to use them on Astrals or other such large carrier, and they acknowledged the validity of my choice.

Besides, having combat carriers has the benefit of bringing the decks close to the fight so your Wanzer don't have to waste time in transit.

[phampanvn1998]

Never mind my question. I just found the wanzer servicing gantry mod lpc in a random ruin. Now I am spamming heron+wanzer as fodder for my much superior arbitrator spam. Time to flip some switches and let the AI do the heavy lifting.

[SouljaWolf]

Whats the Versant teaser about?

[dcong89]

the Latest Diable Avionics technology ! new ship like mecha with custom arms

[SouljaWolf]

Sounds sick as hell any set in stone date or will it just come out randomly?

[Its Maz]

Its already out, just look in orbit of Diables capital