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General Discussion / Re: Conquest is bad - change my mind
« on: November 25, 2020, 05:51:11 PM »
Yes it absolutely is a polarizing loadout lol, thats exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Thats what people have been saying to do to make it hold up for most of the thread. Its very similar to what I've used in the past, tailor made to fight other capitals. I'm not saying its a bad thing to make inventive builds but how many other ships in the game use less than half of their weapon mounts to invest everything in shield strength and max vents and caps.
Thats what polarizing means, its minmaxed to fit a specific purpose. You don't have to go that far with the other capitals or other Midlines.
I KNOW there's exceptions, no need to reiterate this again. My point about the Conquest is that if you were to make a Midline ship right now, most people would compare it to other Midline ships, use their basic statline, then make changes. There have clearly been some serious changes made to make the Conquest not OP, and IMO the Midline ships are already pretty individualized as SCC mentioned so its harder to gauge.
Thats what polarizing means, its minmaxed to fit a specific purpose. You don't have to go that far with the other capitals or other Midlines.
Doctrine is a just an aesthetic/fluff thing, not a serious set of rules for balance.Doctrine isn't just fluff and its not a set of balancing rules either, its a win condition. Also I don't understand whats so confusing about comparing a ship to its doctrine. If its not going to follow it why have it at all even if its only lore. Every vanilla doctrine and modded faction is based around some kind of idea, something specific their ships do better than others they rely on to win fights. Again, you are welcome to just hand wave it all if it makes you feel better but it sounds more like you don't think they should exist at all.
I KNOW there's exceptions, no need to reiterate this again. My point about the Conquest is that if you were to make a Midline ship right now, most people would compare it to other Midline ships, use their basic statline, then make changes. There have clearly been some serious changes made to make the Conquest not OP, and IMO the Midline ships are already pretty individualized as SCC mentioned so its harder to gauge.