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Starsector => General Discussion => Topic started by: Debido on October 22, 2014, 05:19:32 AM

Title: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Debido on October 22, 2014, 05:19:32 AM
Ok, so this is a mini-competition, or maybe little stories/anecdotes about the times you've been given a good shake down by 2 fighters, a frigate and a donut loving patrolman looking to line their pockets.

What I'd also like to see is numbers/screenshots from times you've been hit by these guys.

Anyway I'll start.

So I was leaving Syndria for Corvus with my modestly large fleet, with just basic fuel/supplies for the trip after a successful bounty hunt that netted me around 90,000CR. I was no more than a few clicks out of the Syndria jump point when some little whipper snapper of a fleet popped out of the Sydria jump point at top speed in pursuit.

Aghast that I'd just loaded up on fuel and supplies for the trip...I had a good idea it was going to hurt...


(http://s5.postimg.org/dnvcns3qv/donuteater.jpg)


SO anyway, share your stories/vent frustration and anger at how much you've lost to these !@%^ patrols that make our life a misery.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: TJJ on October 22, 2014, 06:40:58 AM
My Onslaught hit a green bump in Eos; might have been a patrol.... I didn't bother to ask :)
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Histidine on October 22, 2014, 07:04:14 AM
I'M CARRYING FOOD AID TO YOUR PLANET YOU JERKOFF WHY ARE YOU TOLLING ME FOR IT.
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(http://i.imgur.com/osRrjmv.jpg)
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(yeah that's good old Asharu... always on the brink of starvation)
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: ErKeL on October 22, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
I managed to get tolled by 3 different factions, one of them twice while delivering fuel from one system to another.

I assume these guys are riding my ass because I did a lot of trading on the black market so a lot of them aren't keen on me right now.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Degraine on October 22, 2014, 08:28:25 PM
Yeah, the tolls can get pretty savage. It's frustrating to me that supplies and fuel that you intend to use rather than trade can still count against you. I'm not hopeful that I'll be able to maintain a big fleet in this version. But I guess that's all right; as long as I have my Medusa, I can run rings around just about anything else that isn't a Dominator or Paragon.

Actually, I kind of want the Gorgon back now too. I loved the Gun Runners' variants.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Thaago on October 22, 2014, 09:30:08 PM
Oh man, Gun Runners... that brings me back! The Gorgon was incredibly fun to fly. And also horrifically overpowered :D.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Midnight Kitsune on October 22, 2014, 10:21:41 PM
Suggestion for Alex: Make fuel and supplies "worth less" in the tolls
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Chronosfear on October 23, 2014, 07:15:28 AM
Suggestion for Alex: Make fuel and supplies "worth less" in the tolls
and maybe the goods they are in terrible need , too ..
The patrols know what their planet needs . so why not make that cheaper ,too

Even if it is a "legalized" shakedown , they should support the one helping and not hindering them :)

... Next time there might be no one coming for help.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Hari Seldon on October 23, 2014, 09:39:51 AM
I agree that tolls for fuel and supplies makes no sense.  That's like a bridge toll being based on how much fuel you have in your car's gas tank.  Fuel and supplies are tradable goods so they do need to be taxed, but they should only be taxed when you sell them to the market.

Tolls on fleet size make sense.

Tolls on cargo (that is not fuel or supplies) make a bit of sense because that is like an inspection fee.  The more cargo you have the longer the inspection the higher the fee.  But it is far too expensive.  I think it is so expensive right now because if you go straight to the black market to sell legal goods that would avoid tariffs, so the authorities need another way to drain your money so the black market is not OP.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: j01 on October 23, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
I think it is so expensive right now because if you go straight to the black market to sell legal goods that would avoid tariffs, so the authorities need another way to drain your money so the black market is not OP.

I think maybe inspection frequency and severity of fees incurred should be based (more? is it a factor at all right now?) heavily on system stability and smuggling activity.

If a system is more stable than not and there's little or no smuggling being done, these legalized shakedowns should be much, much rarer, and the toll should be absolutely tiny compared to what it is right now.

Legal traders already have to face enormous tariffs, after all.

Hell, maybe there should be a reputation stat that ties your history of legal trading and helping out with shortages in each system with your faction standing, and should count for or against you with this kind of stuff.

"Hey, I scanned your cargo and it all looks good. We usually charge for this kind of thing, but you're a dear friend to the Hegemony, and the books also say you rescued planet A and B from starvation with your onion shipments! My wife lives on planet B! My god, someone give this man a medal."
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Debido on October 23, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
Uh guys this topic is for posting your biggest inspection tarrifs and stories about them. Me personally I think their cost is fine. The backdrop setting for the game is a grim dark noir future space where there is corruption etc. considering how much money there is to be made in the game, the tarrifs are a bit of a pain if you get caught but they're not game breaking. Just be careful and do your best to avoid them and you'll be making millions in no time.

Also you'll note when you have a good relationship with a faction you are much less likely to be harassed, and they seem to care less if at all if you ignore their inspection patrols chasing you.

If you want really unfair, why not discuss buying an onslaught from the Hegemony and losing 12 points of relationship with tri tach! Buy a good fleet setup and you will lose 36-48 points in a handful of purchases.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Alex on October 23, 2014, 05:48:48 PM
If you want really unfair, why not discuss buying an onslaught from the Hegemony and losing 12 points of relationship with tri tach! Buy a good fleet setup and you will lose 36-48 points in a handful of purchases.

(Just FYI: the impact of trade on reputation (per faction) gradually levels off to a lower value, after about 1 million credits' worth of transactions. The reasoning is that while you're new on the scene, stuff you do gets more noticed, but as your actions fall into established patterns, it's becomes less noteworth. "Oh, that guy bought another Onslaught? Well, we're not happy about it, but not as alarmed as when he bought the first 3.")
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Ionise on October 23, 2014, 06:05:18 PM
The scan patrols are easy to avoid and carry a really low reputation hit. If you book it for a jump point (where available) you won't even take the rep hit. Def. worth avoiding 3k+ tolls that get leveled at you once you're rocking a decent fleet.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Debido on October 23, 2014, 06:15:33 PM
If you want really unfair, why not discuss buying an onslaught from the Hegemony and losing 12 points of relationship with tri tach! Buy a good fleet setup and you will lose 36-48 points in a handful of purchases.

(Just FYI: the impact of trade on reputation (per faction) gradually levels off to a lower value, after about 1 million credits' worth of transactions. The reasoning is that while you're new on the scene, stuff you do gets more noticed, but as your actions fall into established patterns, it's becomes less noteworth. "Oh, that guy bought another Onslaught? Well, we're not happy about it, but not as alarmed as when he bought the first 3.")

That's good to know, thanks Alex!
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Nanao-kun on October 23, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
The scan patrols are easy to avoid and carry a really low reputation hit. If you book it for a jump point (where available) you won't even take the rep hit. Def. worth avoiding 3k+ tolls that get leveled at you once you're rocking a decent fleet.
I've gone through jump points and gotten the rep hit. In some cases, they chased me all the way to another system.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: superhotdogzz on October 23, 2014, 11:06:47 PM
The scan patrols are easy to avoid and carry a really low reputation hit. If you book it for a jump point (where available) you won't even take the rep hit. Def. worth avoiding 3k+ tolls that get leveled at you once you're rocking a decent fleet.
I've gone through jump points and gotten the rep hit. In some cases, they chased me all the way to another system.

I think that happened to my comm relay hack run. Darn Hegemony Patrol chase me all the way to Askonia. They stopped only because they running into Tri-tachyon and got whacked :-\.   
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Clockwork Owl on October 24, 2014, 07:45:39 AM
3 different Hegemony fleets attempted to toll me thrice in a week. Even though I had positive rep with them(around 10; wasn`t 'favorable' yet). They didn`t like me, I suppose...
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: frogbones on October 24, 2014, 08:16:40 AM
love hate. I just love the patrols, but hate them when I get caught. Such a nice addition. keeps things interesting.

Like really low on supplies, get pinged, then can't land. Have to fly around with out supplies 'till they quit persuit, then have to make up for the damage of no supplies which cost me more than if I just paid the toll. HEH....LOVE IT!

Had one last night after about three attempt scanning. Two of which I ran, got caught slippin' and got it from the third, TT area. was acting a punk and refused to pay my 3647 toll. I failed to notice the size of the fleet.....even though I ended up winning. My fleet was recked. Popping attitude can hurt in this game..... ;)

Though I was smugglin' 'evy like on the New Mexco (sp?) station.


Oh, got charged with manipulating the market on Umbra. They were short on food, I replinished. They charged me (month goes by..found guilty) with causing the food shortage so I could take advantage of max profit. Though I didn't, was just following intel. I was able to respond really fast cause I was right in the system with a large load of food, they had me suspect that I had somthin' to do with shortage...... LOVE IT!
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Thaago on October 24, 2014, 08:18:47 AM
I was screaming along in my Wolf chasing down pirates when a patrol pinged me.

...


Patrol: "License and registration please."
Me: "Seriously? A traffic stop? There are pirates RIGHT THERE!" :: hands over license and registration through space-window ::
Patrol: "I'll be right back to check on these."
...
...
:: Pirates blow up a passing trade fleet. ::
...
...
Patrol: "According to our records  you supplied food to starving Tri-Tachyon orphans a month ago. Thats a class A offense."
Me: "But! But PIRATES! Right there! Killing people!"
Patrol: "You're under arrest. Step out of the spaceship sir."
Me: "Oh come on!"
Patrol (into space-walkie talkie): "Suspect resisting arrest! I need backup! Kill on sight, kill on sight!



Yup, thats totally how it went down.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: CopperCoyote on October 24, 2014, 08:24:34 AM
Sindarians pinged me for 3036 fleet & 9378 cargo. (12414 total)

I was really annoyed because this was right after i'd filled up on a huge pile of organics loot. I suspect that mothballed ships count toward your cargo total making your shielded cargo holds less effective.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Debido on October 24, 2014, 08:29:49 AM
@Thaago: That actually made me laugh rather hard
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Ryxsen1421 on October 24, 2014, 11:46:42 AM
I was on my way back to the abandoned terraforming platform with my brand new.. not-so-shiny Onslaught. My fleets are:

1 Onslaught, 2 Falcons,1 Eagle, 2 Condors and numerous fighter variants. We have the established reputation as the bounty-hunter or pirate killers... but.. suddenly, echoes coming out of the void. where?.. WHERE DID IT COME FROM?!.. wait, there's something on the horizon... it's approaching fast towards us.. with this familiar weight of.. Authority?

It turns out to be... a single Vigilance class Frigate asking me to pay for a ridiculously yet insane amount of credits before blackmailing us!
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: ciago92 on October 24, 2014, 11:51:41 AM
I was screaming along in my Wolf chasing down pirates when a patrol pinged me.

...


Patrol: "License and registration please."
Me: "Seriously? A traffic stop? There are pirates RIGHT THERE!" :: hands over license and registration through space-window ::
Patrol: "I'll be right back to check on these."
...
...
:: Pirates blow up a passing trade fleet. ::
...
...
Patrol: "According to our records  you supplied food to starving Tri-Tachyon orphans a month ago. Thats a class A offense."
Me: "But! But PIRATES! Right there! Killing people!"
Patrol: "You're under arrest. Step out of the spaceship sir."
Me: "Oh come on!"
Patrol (into space-walkie talkie): "Suspect resisting arrest! I need backup! Kill on sight, kill on sight!



Yup, thats totally how it went down.

dying  ;D
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Tartiflette on October 24, 2014, 12:07:10 PM
My worst stroke of luck was during a trip to get some food for a crisis, I got tolled 3 times (3!) while going to the Ludd planet, 12K each, and 2 more times at 16K on the return trip! Fortunately I had 2 Atlases loaded with food so I still made a bit of a coin, but between fuel, supplies and the tolls, my net benefit was only half of the 180K selling.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: ArkAngel on October 26, 2014, 02:44:51 PM
I decided to try pure pirating for a change and took out a few small independent fleets and captured the new frigate, the sherpard. I ended up being chased by an independent mercenary fleet. Unfortunately for me, the fleet was composed of one wolf, two tempests, and a Hyperion. With my newly captured Shepard drone carrier, and my CR stupidly low on my part in my wolf, I made a dash for the Jangala Station.

Murderous rage filled mercenaries behind me, I desperately approach it, and a split second before I make contact with the station- “You’ve been pinged for an inspection, the station is unwilling to trade with you until you are cleared." The independent fleet had been slowly gaining on me, and I wasn't able to avoid the large patrol do it being practically right on top of me. With my Shepard frigate already dealing with crippling combat readiness and barely any hull left on it, I knew I wouldn't be able to outrun the patrol.I imagine my communications officer making a desperate attempt to reason with the patrol- "you've got to let us go this one time, that fleet right behind us is trying to kill us!"

Alas, the patrol could not be reasoned with and so I was forced to let the scan commence- and almost instantly come in contact with the mercenary fleet. Upon contact, my only chance, despite it being a small one, was to attempt an escape.
Despite my desperate protection with my wolf in defending the Shepard (which actually held off two of the tempests remarkably well with its drones despite the occasional critical damage malfunction slowly eating its hull away) the second tempest managed to get past the drones and destroy my newly captured ship. Desperate to avoid and further losses, I send my wolf into a haphazard attempt to get out of the combat area little more then 1/4 of the way left.

It was around that moment when I realized.... Where’s the Hyperion- A teleport later, and scrap metal was all that was left of my flagship.
If only that damned patrol would see reason!  :'(
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Histidine on October 26, 2014, 11:10:11 PM
I dropped out of hyperspace at the Niflheim gravity well in pursuit of a bounty. Sure enough, the pirate fleet was there... and so was a Tri-Tachyon patrol that spontaneously decided to make that annoying ping sound and chase me for donut money.

I took one look at the patrol, and one look at the pirates.

The opportunity was... too good to pass up, shall we say.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Midnight Kitsune on October 26, 2014, 11:11:05 PM
I dropped out of hyperspace at the Niflheim gravity well in pursuit of a bounty. Sure enough, the pirate fleet was there... and so was a Tri-Tachyon patrol that spontaneously decided to make that annoying ping sound and chase me for donut money.

I took one look at the patrol, and one look at the pirates.

The opportunity was... too good to pass up, shall we say.
So you lured the TT into the bounty?
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Histidine on October 27, 2014, 05:36:16 AM
I dropped out of hyperspace at the Niflheim gravity well in pursuit of a bounty. Sure enough, the pirate fleet was there... and so was a Tri-Tachyon patrol that spontaneously decided to make that annoying ping sound and chase me for donut money.

I took one look at the patrol, and one look at the pirates.

The opportunity was... too good to pass up, shall we say.
So you lured the TT into the bounty?
Yep. It cleaned out about half the patrol and got them to leave me alone (despite the "stop in the name of the law" message popping up about a second afterwards). The pirates didn't take significant losses.

I promptly thanked them by bashing their hulls in, of course. No good deed goes unpunished!
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: RawCode on October 27, 2014, 07:00:46 AM
patrols are just punishing.

just imagine "STOP RIGHT HERE CRIMINAL SCUM" all over the place on street
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Aereto on October 27, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
I dropped out of hyperspace at the Niflheim gravity well in pursuit of a bounty. Sure enough, the pirate fleet was there... and so was a Tri-Tachyon patrol that spontaneously decided to make that annoying ping sound and chase me for donut money.

I took one look at the patrol, and one look at the pirates.

The opportunity was... too good to pass up, shall we say.
So you lured the TT into the bounty?
Yep. It cleaned out about half the patrol and got them to leave me alone (despite the "stop in the name of the law" message popping up about a second afterwards). The pirates didn't take significant losses.

I promptly thanked them by bashing their hulls in, of course. No good deed goes unpunished!
Tri-Tach is the one faction I prefer not to mess with, being the primary Afflictor patron and all, but also the high-tech makes for a tricky combat approach.

Now if I could make a clear note which faction provides Monitors... *mumbling*
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: lemmington on October 29, 2014, 04:14:19 AM
i think i found a bug, also i am pretty new to the forums so i don't kow where the bug section is, sorry :/.

Whenever i get a patrol fleet to chek my fleet, and i say allow the scan. I instantly get a 3rep hit, for allowing the scan... I got this problem around 10 hours in the game and having around 3 million and some credits (bounties are just giving way to much credits :P).

I never actualy had any troubles with the patrols but man i find nowhere a conquest battlecruiser :(.

EDIT: found the bug section you can ignore this reply.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: SpaceBall on October 29, 2014, 06:33:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sL7NmFv.png)

Seriously, do you guys even trade?
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Debido on October 29, 2014, 06:43:47 AM
Ouch! 45k! What cargo were you hauling?
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Lcu on October 29, 2014, 07:08:53 AM
Hopefully i will never miss a bounty because of some annoying tolls :p

Anyway, i've once managed to evade a toll by quickly jumping to hyperspace after a nearby patrol emitting the signal. I got through before the dialogue about the toll comes up and evaded with no rep penalty.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: SpaceBall on October 29, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
Ouch! 45k! What cargo were you hauling?

I was just being a decent human being by carrying food to feed the hungry children of Asharu (them poor hungry bastards, always starving) and like 3k of fuel for a rainy day since they were cheep.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Sarolveldruk on October 29, 2014, 08:53:24 PM
Pretty good standing with the Hegemony, been swatting pirates and just trying to be a good Hegemony captain. Plenty of money, good fleet, and lots of supplies backed up at Jangala station's warehouse.

I was dumbfounded that a pitiful little patrol had the audacity to exact a toll from my fleet of Eagles, Falcons, and Hammerheads. Out of pride I swiftly obliterated the patrol, thinking the reputation hit would be minor. Next thing I know, I'm cut off from my stockpiles (yeah, yeah, shoulda put in abandoned terraforming station) and forced to forget the notion of trading in Hegemony space ever again. Life hasn't been so tough, just inconvenient. The hardest part is avoiding Hedge encounters in the hopes that my reputation with them might improve at some point. Just not sure how that will happen, being at -56/100.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Midnight Kitsune on October 29, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
Pretty good standing with the Hegemony, been swatting pirates and just trying to be a good Hegemony captain. Plenty of money, good fleet, and lots of supplies backed up at Jangala station's warehouse.

I was dumbfounded that a pitiful little patrol had the audacity to exact a toll from my fleet of Eagles, Falcons, and Hammerheads. Out of pride I swiftly obliterated the patrol, thinking the reputation hit would be minor. Next thing I know, I'm cut off from my stockpiles (yeah, yeah, shoulda put in abandoned terraforming station) and forced to forget the notion of trading in Hegemony space ever again. Life hasn't been so tough, just inconvenient. The hardest part is avoiding Hedge encounters in the hopes that my reputation with them might improve at some point. Just not sure how that will happen, being at -56/100.
Do bounties for them and eventually you will get out of the hostile relationship. Oh and keep your rep above -75 what ever you do! Once it hits -75, you're screwed unless you use the console mod
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: c plus one on October 30, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
Do bounties for them and eventually you will get out of the hostile relationship.

And if the bounty fleets in question are larger ones that also include enemy cruisers, that should help. More risk, more reward?
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Tartiflette on October 30, 2014, 03:44:37 PM
Aaaaand I got tolled 3 times in a 10 seconds interval... All by the same faction: one entering the system near Sindria. Second just as I was leaving the market, and a third while I was jumping to Hyper a few seconds later... So I took a 5 points reputation hit while having paid 16k in tolls during the last day! Thanks. Good job ruining my new character from the start.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: SafariJohn on October 30, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
Aaaaand I got tolled 3 times in a 10 seconds interval... All by the same faction: one entering the system near Sindria. Second just as I was leaving the market, and a third while I was jumping to Hyper a few seconds later... So I took a 5 points reputation hit while having paid 16k in tolls during the last day! Thanks. Good job ruining my new character from the start.

I'm pretty sure that's a bug. Especially given what Alex has said about how tolling works.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: dmaiski on October 31, 2014, 05:30:01 AM
so far in all my games i have not payed off a single payroll

this may or may not be the reason that pirates and TriTach are the only factions that will trade with me

the pirates being the source of my 6million credit trade fortune made via fuel/supply/drug smugling
and the TriTach loving me because of my nasty habit of wiping out any hegemony or independent fleet i come across  ;D
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Aereto on October 31, 2014, 10:35:24 AM
so far in all my games i have not payed off a single payroll

this may or may not be the reason that pirates and TriTach are the only factions that will trade with me

the pirates being the source of my 6million credit trade fortune made via fuel/supply/drug smugling
and the TriTach loving me because of my nasty habit of wiping out any hegemony or independent fleet i come across  ;D
TriTach is the only non-pirate faction open to any trade goods. The perks of being TriTach allied is high-tech ships and arms.

TriTach is not hostile to independent fleets, so no rep change on that.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: dmaiski on October 31, 2014, 12:11:05 PM
They also seem to be the only faction that does not actively spam the trolling toll patrol :P
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Darloth on October 31, 2014, 12:16:21 PM
Which is odd, I'd expect tri-tach to toll just as much if not more than the hegemony, at least until you're viewed positively.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Histidine on February 01, 2015, 04:14:56 AM
Okay, this is just plain ridiculous.

Spoiler
First off, this is what my fleet looks like:
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(http://i.imgur.com/kZVglfV.png)
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So, I'd come to the Thracia system in pursuit of a Templar fleet. Went through the alpha jump point, saw the target had used a gas giant well instead. Decided to stop by Babylon to buy some fuel and supplies while I was there.

On the way out an independent picket with a Hound, a Lasher and two fighter wings caught up to me (it'd actually started pinging before I docked at the station). The toll came to about 30,000 credits - penny change considering at this point in the game I have 9 million credits. But I was annoyed at the independents after their smuggling investigation busted me for buying a measly 100 fuel off the black market at Glasnir (dude, I needed it to get around) and docked me with -130 reputation points. So I told the patrol to *** off.

They responded to this defiance of their authority in a reasoned and sensible manner, which is to say they attacked me. Seriously.

I was feeling merciful, so I got in my Desdinova and tried to shoot them just enough to make them run away. But despite bringing the Hound's hull to <5% and the Lasher to 50%, they still persisted in their folly. I tried deploying the Eagle and Centurion as well to scare them off - still no dice.

At this point I accidentally turned off hold fire and killed the Hound with a double HVD shot. Oops. Shortly after, the Lasher got blown up by Pilums, and then the patrol finally decided to retreat. I ended the battle, saw the Lasher had passed its repair check, let it go as well.

For all my troubles, I'm now an enemy of every independent planet in the Sector. Meh. See if I help you guys when you have your next food shortage!
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Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Tommy on February 01, 2015, 04:43:35 AM
I am way too late to this thread, but most toll fleets never catch me. If you stay 100-150px away from them (so as to not trigger the "Continue" initial message, before the actual contact), and run for about 15s, they let go.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Delta7 on February 09, 2015, 08:38:21 PM
my armada of almost a dozen fighter wings, half a dozen high grade attack frigates, some high end phase destroyers and cruisers, and a small fleet of archer class missile spam destroyers along with a few recently captured battle barges, lashers and enforcers, that happened to be absolutely loaded down with massive piles of looted weapons that i was on my way to stockpile at the starbase accidentally ran over a small orange circle that happened to be a hegemony patrol consisting of a pair of lashers to charge me a toll nearly in the 6 digits because i had the audacity to haul loot from defeated enemies after an extended, system wide crusade against the pirates. that marked the first time i refused to pay a toll to the hegemony who have long been at 100/100 cooperative with me.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Silver Silence on February 15, 2015, 09:13:15 PM
I am way too late to this thread, but most toll fleets never catch me. If you stay 100-150px away from them (so as to not trigger the "Continue" initial message, before the actual contact), and run for about 15s, they let go.

I was just about to post and mention this, but I thought I should scroll through the thread first. But yeah, as long as you're not close enough for them to throw you a hail from a distance, you'll avoid the (minor) rep hit. They give up and go about their way. Amusingly, you can then wheel the fleet around and fly back in, they won't bother you after that.


Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: EI on February 22, 2015, 05:18:24 AM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/o7oky1.png)

CURSE YOU, WYATT WILKINS AND YOUR SEXY FACE!!! )O)

CURSE YOU! o-o
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: TJJ on February 22, 2015, 06:26:16 AM
Patrols are great; +1 reputation for nothing more than money!
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Protonus on February 22, 2015, 06:36:02 AM
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Mr. Wilkins knew you were up to something, so I sent him out to make you pay for your insolence. *budumdush*
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Serenitis on March 01, 2015, 04:03:13 AM
Patrols are great; +1 reputation for nothing more than money!

If it gave you the +1 consistently, then yes.
But they rarely seem to give that.

What I really love is when you're chasing down a fleet and these guys just decide to dart out and intercept you with zero chance to evade because you were practically on top of them, which means you either have to stomp on them to try and catch your original target (with now reduced CR) meaning you'll be undoing all the work you've put in to your rep so far. Or paying the toll and watching your target jump away as the irritating scan bar creeps its way over.
They do this all the time, and it is quite annoying.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Megas on March 01, 2015, 06:21:21 AM
Patrols are great when you are desperately trying to build reputation from inhospitable to suspicious, due to a recent black market bust that costed you -130 reputation.

However, patrols are awful when your reputation is high enough, and devastating if they ping you the moment before you dock with your loaded freighter fleet.  My solution to insolent patrols:  Reload game and try again.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: TheHengeProphet on March 14, 2015, 05:08:17 AM
The audacity of the patrols, and their inconveniant timing has almost made me want to assemble a large fleet and attempt starving culprit worlds to death by denying all trade.

The only reason I haven't is because it would be futile to attempt...  It would just jack their prices and reduce stability, but that's about it, when the real goal is to say "Hey, Hegemony, how do you feel about losing a planet because you threatened extortion?"
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: CopperCoyote on March 17, 2015, 04:56:43 PM
I recently had a hegemony fleet attack me when i refused to pay. I lost a pirate buffalo. I was so ***. They're going to have a bad time feeding themselves for a while i think.

I didn't know they would attack you if you refused to pay. Aggravating.
Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: Debido on March 17, 2015, 05:11:08 PM
The audacity of the patrols, and their inconveniant timing has almost made me want to assemble a large fleet and attempt starving culprit worlds to death by denying all trade.

The only reason I haven't is because it would be futile to attempt...  It would just jack their prices and reduce stability, but that's about it, when the real goal is to say "Hey, Hegemony, how do you feel about losing a planet because you threatened extortion?"

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Title: Re: RAGE AGAINST THE PATROL!!!
Post by: frogbones on March 24, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
They ping you, while right next to you near a jump gate or the like. during the "scan" a friggin enemy armada flies right twards you and engages YOU!

Or you give chase to an enemy fleet that just recked a "friendly" fleet, and the recked fleets stops your pursuit to toll you.....