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Title: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 16, 2013, 07:49:31 AM
It keeps spiraling! Nothing EA is doing is stopping the flow. What do you think about this?
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Aratoop on March 16, 2013, 07:53:06 AM
I think the spiral's starting to slow down now.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 16, 2013, 08:09:48 AM
I think the spiral's starting to slow down now.
It's shifting. It used to be about the DRM, now it's about the lies and the fact the game is inherently broken and a buggy mess.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Gothars on March 16, 2013, 08:14:00 AM
What do you think about this?

All hail the indies!
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Sproginator on March 16, 2013, 09:13:03 AM
All hail Alex!
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: TJJ on March 16, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
Marketing department of a large company lied/misrepresented it's product..... And this is a revelation, how?
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 16, 2013, 09:46:23 AM
Marketing department of a large company lied/misrepresented it's product..... And this is a revelation, how?
Because people are actively rebelling, talking and crushing the company for it? Instead of accepting it?
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: TheHappyFace on March 16, 2013, 10:39:46 AM
i have no idea where this is about...
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Aratoop on March 16, 2013, 10:58:22 AM
Nor do I. For me it's not buggy at all (although I do have internet of around 70mb/s so yeah  ::)).
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: FloW on March 16, 2013, 11:17:26 AM
The problem is that EA/Maxis completely screwed the launch up, due to the requirement that you have to always be online.
And while the enduser might have a good internet connection, he has no guarantee that EA/Maxis' servers are always online.

The reasoning was somewhere along the lines of "calculations have to be done on our servers", "your saves are saved on our servers".
Just recently however somebody released an offline mod for SimCity that works just fine. After that they had to admit that it would be possible to make the game entirely offline. They still decided against it. So if you, or EA/Maxis, have no internet connection - for whatever reason - the entire game is unplayable.

Personally I'm *** that they made Multiplayer without an option for Singleplayer. But I don't even own the game and I hope that EA will get the message.

PS: the reason why I use "EA/Maxis" is because I'm not sure who owns/maintains the servers.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: K-64 on March 16, 2013, 11:48:42 AM
Marketing department of a large company lied/misrepresented it's product..... And this is a revelation, how?
Because people are actively rebelling, talking and crushing the company for it? Instead of accepting it?

They really aren't. This is the exact situation as what happened with Spore.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Aratoop on March 16, 2013, 12:04:02 PM
EA owns the servers. It may be that it's (kinda) *** because of the DRM, and maybe they secretly conspired to make it a DRM because EA is a money-grabbing ***, but it's fun that no city can be completely self-sufficient-co-operation is required, and friends/randoms can be fun (and a liability). But I haven't played any of the other games, so I wouldn't know.
 (actually the same thing with C&C TT- I enjoyed it as an RTS game, not as a C&C fan.)
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 16, 2013, 12:08:55 PM
Marketing department of a large company lied/misrepresented it's product..... And this is a revelation, how?
Because people are actively rebelling, talking and crushing the company for it? Instead of accepting it?

They really aren't. This is the exact situation as what happened with Spore.
Did Forbes cover it? Did almost every nameable internet gaming journalist cover it? Is it getting horrendous reviews? Were the forums ablaze with controversy, conspiracy, etc.? They certainly are here.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: K-64 on March 16, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
It most certainly was. And it was all about the DRM. Then once that blew over, everyone started going "You know what, this game is *** even under the surface".

I seem to recall there was a lot of commotion over the fact it was cracked days before release as well.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 16, 2013, 12:23:04 PM
It most certainly was. And it was all about the DRM. Then once that blew over, everyone started going "You know what, this game is *** even under the surface".

I seem to recall there was a lot of commotion over the fact it was cracked days before release as well.
The only people playing Simcity for more than a few hours currently are the pirates :3
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: K-64 on March 16, 2013, 12:29:25 PM
It's a wonderful state that the industry has reached, isn't it? The criminals get to play the games they get for free with impunity, yet the paying customers get treated like pirates and have their game seize up/crash on a routine basis.

And people think role reversal movies are funny.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 18, 2013, 02:50:25 PM
Nooz just in! EA CEO has quit. Hmmm...
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: PerturbedPug on March 18, 2013, 03:42:45 PM
I don't think that the EA CEO stepping down is going to change much, UNLESS they get in someone who actually cares about gaming. Even if they do, the EA reputation has been tarnished by all the crap they put out now.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Decer304 on March 18, 2013, 09:48:37 PM
I don't think that the EA CEO stepping down is going to change much, UNLESS they get in someone who actually cares about gaming. Even if they do, the EA reputation has been tarnished by all the crap they put out now.
EA never had any reputation to begin with lol. EA, voted the worst company in America, are just money hungry C**** who doesnt care about anything else.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: K-64 on March 19, 2013, 01:34:33 PM
EA never had any reputation to begin with lol. EA, voted the worst company in America, are just money hungry C**** who doesnt care about anything else.

Actually, before the whole Spore debacle, they were actually held in moderate-to-high regard. Coincidentally, I believe that's about the same time as Mr. Just-Recently-Quit got the job as CEO. So there may be some small hope there. Hell, in the old days, the classic "Electonic Arts" logo was a sign that it was going to be a decent game.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Sandremo on March 19, 2013, 03:31:26 PM
EA never had any reputation to begin with lol. EA, voted the worst company in America, are just money hungry C**** who doesnt care about anything else.

Actually, before the whole Spore debacle, they were actually held in moderate-to-high regard. Coincidentally, I believe that's about the same time as Mr. Just-Recently-Quit got the job as CEO. So there may be some small hope there. Hell, in the old days, the classic "Electonic Arts" logo was a sign that it was going to be a decent game.

Aye... doesnt matter what EA does it wont get itself out of this hole that easily... and let's not talk about all the good studios EA hammered to the ground with their "Nice ideas" and then closed right afterwards... Westwood and Bullfrog are gone because of EA =/ Both of those studios made fantastic games back in the day. Stuff like Populous and Red Alert. Personally i cant remember where things started to go wrong. In my memory at 1 moment EA was making good games and then just out of nowhere "MORE MONEH! NEED MORE MONEH!!!!!". Hell if EA wouldnt have destroyed bullfrog we might actually have a dungeon keeper 3.

Anyways let's see how this turns out in the end.

-Sandremo
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: Decer304 on March 19, 2013, 08:26:50 PM
EA kills successful and great franchises. Every franchise they acquire gets ruined.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: TJJ on March 19, 2013, 08:56:33 PM
Is this new news to you guys?

http://worldsims.org/playing-simcity-offline-with-azzeruk/3512/ (http://worldsims.org/playing-simcity-offline-with-azzeruk/3512/)

It was to me.
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 20, 2013, 11:46:34 AM
Is this new news to you guys?

http://worldsims.org/playing-simcity-offline-with-azzeruk/3512/ (http://worldsims.org/playing-simcity-offline-with-azzeruk/3512/)

It was to me.
I've known for quite a damn while now :P
Title: Re: The Simcity mess
Post by: hadesian on March 20, 2013, 01:02:26 PM
Well, since this is EA we're talking about - playing F2P SW:TOR is wildly different to the subbed SW:TOR. I can't use any of my titles anymore, I can hardly use... anything. And I'm Preferred (ex-sub)! Disgraceful chopping. I expect much the same to occur to SimVillage.