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Starsector => Bug Reports & Support => Topic started by: KDR_11k on July 29, 2021, 07:42:53 AM

Title: Faction declared war after fight against forming expedition force
Post by: KDR_11k on July 29, 2021, 07:42:53 AM
In this game Sindria declared an expedition with a saturation bombardment over fuel export market shares (is that even a vanilla thing? I've never had that happen before) at a starting rep of around +40. Because I was offended by that I parked in orbit of Sindria with the intention of annihilating as many of their fleets in the skirmish as possible. I fought the two fleets of the expedition separately since they trundled in there one by one. After the second fleet plus a lot of other guards were defeated the remains (like 1-2 ships) of the expedition fleet engaged me again, I wiped the floor with them and everybody they ever loved again but after the battle and the pursuit I get the rep penalty as if I had declared war. Even though the start of the battle told me there would be no rep penalty and it didn't ask me about declaring war either.

Personal theory: There were no ships of the actual expedition force left by the time the pursuit happened so the pursuit counted as a battle against the regular forces?

(https://i.imgur.com/zHtvHJa.png)

While this game is modded I think this was a result of the base game's mechanics.

The log doesn't seem to contain anything useful.
Title: Re: Faction declared war after fight against forming expedition force
Post by: Alex on July 29, 2021, 08:13:06 AM
Personal theory: There were no ships of the actual expedition force left by the time the pursuit happened so the pursuit counted as a battle against the regular forces?

Was going to guess that, yeah. And actually - I'm not sure without checking - but just fighting against another fleet pulled into the battle would probably also cause the full reputation hit. The message is confusing in this case, though. I mean, it's technically correct - engaging that fleet won't cause any changes to your standing! - but other fleets are involved. So, yeah, confusing. Let me make an note, thank you for the report!
Title: Re: Faction declared war after fight against forming expedition force
Post by: KDR_11k on July 29, 2021, 08:34:50 AM
Personal theory: There were no ships of the actual expedition force left by the time the pursuit happened so the pursuit counted as a battle against the regular forces?

Was going to guess that, yeah. And actually - I'm not sure without checking - but just fighting against another fleet pulled into the battle would probably also cause the full reputation hit. The message is confusing in this case, though. I mean, it's technically correct - engaging that fleet won't cause any changes to your standing! - but other fleets are involved. So, yeah, confusing. Let me make an note, thank you for the report!
The previous two battles also involved a lot of "bystander" fleets (including the Battlestation defending the planet) and didn't cause any rep loss.
Title: Re: Faction declared war after fight against forming expedition force
Post by: Alex on July 29, 2021, 09:03:57 AM
Good to know! That does sound like your theory is the correct one, then.