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Title: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Zym on May 19, 2021, 05:00:46 PM
Download 1.1 (https://github.com/Zymoz/Low-Maintenance/releases/download/1.1/LowMaintenance.zip)
Can be added during a campaign.
Can not be removed from a campaign once saved.


What the mod does

Adds a hullmod called Low Maintenance that reduces supply maintenance by 50% and applies it to the following ships:


Why those ships?

Two reasons:

Also, as you can see on the following table, even when you apply such a drastic decrease in maintenance, their overall costs for flying around are still higher than their high tech counterpart. The ships with "(LM)" next to them are the same ships but with the Low Maintenance hullmod applied to their overall costs. The final cost calculations assumes base costs for the supplies, crew and fuel.
(https://i.imgur.com/YMBXCUW.png)


What it looks like ingame

(https://i.imgur.com/IbO3El1.png)


Changelog:
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.0
Post by: dEVoRaTriX_LuX on May 20, 2021, 03:21:27 AM
Would you consider a whitelist feature so that we can add low tech ships added from mods to get a reduction in maintenance cost? Thank you
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.0
Post by: Arcagnello on May 20, 2021, 04:10:38 AM
Quote from: dEVoRaTriX_LuX on May 20, 2021, 03:21:27 AM
Would you consider a whitelist feature so that we can add low tech ships added from mods to get a reduction in maintenance cost? Thank you

I fully second this idea. I've already got Luddic Church versions of Onslaught, Legion and Dominator thanks to the "Luddic Expansion" mod and it would be a shame for them to not recieve this mod goodness!
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Zolanius on May 20, 2021, 08:00:29 AM
Suggestion for tooltip text: "This type of mass produced ship has spare parts available in the entire sector, and has been built to both last, and be easily maintained, reducing maintenance cost by 50%."

A bit more flovery than just stating the obvious.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: SCC on May 20, 2021, 10:52:15 AM
It's short and to the point, just like the high maintenance hullmod.
Quote from: Arcagnello on May 20, 2021, 04:10:38 AM
Quote from: dEVoRaTriX_LuX on May 20, 2021, 03:21:27 AM
Would you consider a whitelist feature so that we can add low tech ships added from mods to get a reduction in maintenance cost? Thank you

I fully second this idea. I've already got Luddic Church versions of Onslaught, Legion and Dominator thanks to the "Luddic Expansion" mod and it would be a shame for them to not recieve this mod goodness!
Zym adds that hullmod to ships by replacing .ship files. He would have to create a script to dynamically add that hullmod to all ships designated low-tech or something else.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Satirical on May 22, 2021, 03:17:12 PM
owo dis should be added to vanilla
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: SpaceDrake on May 24, 2021, 05:09:37 PM
Going to add +1 that this is a fantastic mod and really helps make the lowtech caps feel balanced. It also makes finding them early feel pretty good! (Your concern at that point is all the fuel they love to guzzle...)
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: default on September 09, 2021, 09:34:32 AM
Huh. I never really put it into a spreadsheet, so I had no idea running a paragon was cheaper than an Onslaught. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense aside from simply being able to field more Onslaughts per fight. I mostly use high tech/phase ships anyway. Pretty neat mod, though. Maybe It'll feel more worth it to carry around a couple low tech ships.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Noviastar on October 20, 2021, 04:32:06 PM
I love this idea.  Supply cost scales based on tech level.  SOOO your fancy ships would have a rather higher parts requirement. 

You could balance this more with fuel cost.  Higtech requires more supply.  but uses less fuel.  Come on our cars today are a pain to repair but don't use as much fuel as cars from the 60s
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Yunru on October 21, 2021, 02:06:54 AM
Quote from: Noviastar on October 20, 2021, 04:32:06 PM
You could balance this more with fuel cost.  Higtech requires more supply.  but uses less fuel.  Come on our cars today are a pain to repair but don't use as much fuel as cars from the 60s
Uh, that would balance it less, since this is already a balance patch.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Jaghaimo on January 06, 2022, 09:47:55 AM
How does the new low-tech cruiser shape up? Should this mod be updated to 0.95.1a and include new ship?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: SCC on January 06, 2022, 11:50:27 AM
Dominator: 25 maintenance, 300 required crew, combined 5500 monthly. 5 fuel/ly
Eradicator: 20 maintenance, 120 required crew, combined 3200 monthly. 4 fuel/ly
In comparison to Dominator, it seems a fair bit cheaper. But what about other light cruisers?
Falcon: 14 maintenance, 100 required crew, combined 2400 monthly. 3 fuel/ly
Fury: 20 maintenance, 60 required crew, combined 2600 monthly (lmao). 3 fuel/ly
It's not much more expensive, but halving the maintenance would make it 2200 monthly credits, which I think might be fine, considering it guzzles more fuel than other light cruisers.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Adventwolf on January 29, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Any ship that has a XIV battlegroup version should have this added to them. Since all those hulls are supposed to be old and reliable workhorse designs. Same with added battlecruiser from High Tech expanded since it is built from stripped down onslaughts. Also thinking either the fuel or the crew requirements should also be cut since with such well known designs they would have been optimized to run the best while being cheap.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Raif Redacted on November 22, 2022, 06:24:17 PM
If anyone wants to add the Eradicator (newest, low-tech cruiser) or anything else, just copy one of the files from this mods' Hull folder and rename it to whatever ship you want to affect, using the exact same name of the file in the base-game folder. For instance, checking the base-game folder for the name, I copied the dominator.ship file and renamed it to eradicator.ship. That simple.

edit: only odd thing I've just noticed is that the Eradicator (P) variant has an 8.5 maintenance cost and doesn't round the percentage up/down to make it 8 or 9. It's the only ship that has a decimal of maintenance (might happen to other ships added in this way, but I don't see anything in the mod that causes this, so it's likely the devs missed some rounding code somewhere for the ship).
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: SpaceBlender on May 12, 2023, 01:37:19 PM
For anyone wondering, it is still working as of date with 0.96R8.
Just change the game version to the current one in the mod_info.json file.
Thank Ludd, for I follow the path.

Burn bright fellow spacers!
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Gary0076 on July 22, 2023, 11:37:34 PM
it'd be nice to see this on the invictus and retribution as well
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Loyso on September 04, 2023, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: Gary0076 on July 22, 2023, 11:37:34 PM
it'd be nice to see this on the invictus and retribution as well
It surely would be! For the people (like me) who can't wait for the update, there's a solution:
-- inside the mods folder go to LowMaintenance\data\hulls
-- create file named invictus.ship
-- open it in notepad or something
-- write following 3 magic lines of text in this file
{
    "builtInMods": ["low_maintenance"]
}
-- profit

Btw, works with most vanilla or modded ships
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: Loyso on September 04, 2023, 09:48:20 AM
Quote from: Loyso on September 04, 2023, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: Gary0076 on July 22, 2023, 11:37:34 PM
it'd be nice to see this on the invictus and retribution as well
It surely would be! For the people (like me) who can't wait for the update, there's a solution:
-- inside the mods folder go to LowMaintenance\data\hulls
-- create file named invictus.ship
-- open it in notepad or something
-- write following 3 magic lines of text in this file
{
    "builtInMods": ["low_maintenance"]
}
-- profit

Btw, works with most vanilla or modded ships

If you aren't sure about vanilla ship name find it in starsector-core\data\hulls
Or the \hulls directory of the mod that added the ship
Title: Re: [0.95a] Low Maintenance 1.1
Post by: OrariusTempus on October 29, 2023, 03:40:51 AM
Quote from: Loyso on September 04, 2023, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: Gary0076 on July 22, 2023, 11:37:34 PM
it'd be nice to see this on the invictus and retribution as well
It surely would be! For the people (like me) who can't wait for the update, there's a solution:
-- inside the mods folder go to LowMaintenance\data\hulls
-- create file named invictus.ship
-- open it in notepad or something
-- write following 3 magic lines of text in this file
{
    "builtInMods": ["low_maintenance"]
}
-- profit

Btw, works with most vanilla or modded ships
Thanks homie