*posted Protonus' oldshamememories*
All Medikohl's sprites from StarSector Plus have been uploaded, with permission from Medikohl. Yay, that makes the collection pretty complete!It is appreciated!
When I first started kitbashing, I had no idea what I was doing, and my design philosophy hasn't changed too much since then. I basically take a ship, cut and paste random sections and see what the result is, then take another ship possibly and tweak things. The program I use is Paint.net and basically use different layers to do overlays and erasures to make sections seem to attach together.
As Orky as it gets.Not enough red, not enough spikes, too symmetrical, not enough engines for ramming gits and not nearly enough guns pointing wherever (to be fair, that last one requirement is impossible to achieve by design)
Techhead - Today at 6:50 PM
Bash a Drover hangar onto a Shepherd.
AxleMC131 - Today at 6:50 PM
@Techhead I'm looking for something mindless to do. I could whip one up for you.
Techhead - Today at 6:50 PM
Might need to also move the Shepherd's bridge to make room.
AxleMC131 - Today at 6:51 PM
Nah, was just gonna shove a slice of Drover deck in place of the regular one.
10-minute kitbash, on a completely random suggestion by Techhead in the Discord channel:
Valhalla-class Siege Lander
Essentially just two Valkyries that had their frontal plating removed in lieu of two large ballistic mounts after being welded together, this ship is more firepower than practical. Used to simultaneously transport troops and punch through heavy planetary shielding, the Valhalla-class is truly a specialized vessel. Devised by a pair of anonymous shiptechs known only as "Juicy" and "Gourds", the construction of these ships was quickly discontinued when the producers realized just what using the Valhalla entailed ... heavy losses in favor of an all or nothing scheme to win or lose it all.
There is a big difference between being personally allowed to make a ship using bits from someone else's work, and putting that ship in a thread explicitely for sprites that are free-to-use no-strings-attached do-whatever-you-want all-you-can-eat-buffet. And they aren't even mentioning the source material.And i use this ship on my kitbashed fan-mod, sooo ><
Ok... I fiiiiiinally updated all of this stuff. I'll also update the Submission Guidelines.Very squared away
Oh, and here's a new sprite from me:
(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_cuboid_frigate01.png)(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_cuboid_destroyer01.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626974503380975616/647332868502061056/CrenelationWing.png)
The Crenelation-class Fighter Drone isn't much by itself, but it's dirt-cheap to replace and they come in massive numbers, and can easily carve a careless ship to peices for underestimating them.
Good afternoon all.
Is it possible to use the free sprites in other projects?
I understand and agree that credit must be given to the creators.
Thank you.
Good afternoon all.
Is it possible to use the free sprites in other projects?
I understand and agree that credit must be given to the creators.
Thank you.
1) By definition, the sprites within this thread are free to us, though authors will usually appreciate you asking anyway, especially since some sprites may be in use now by others.
2) Define "other projects"? Do you mean making your own Starsector mod, or making something outside of Starsector's game/community? If the latter, I think as a general rule that is advised against, but you can ask the Devs for specific permission there.
The point is that kitbashed sprites USE sprite material from Starsector's core assets. That's what kitbashing is. So, those are still very much within the bounds of legal permission requirements. If you're using assets - kitbashed or stock - outside Starsector itself, you will need to ask for specific permission from the developers.Understood, I'm quite willing to go with commission based work, or paying for the original art that has been completed already.
You are, of course, equally welcome to ask modders/spriters if they would provide specifically original art for your own efforts, that's perfectly fine, but in that case you may indeed find yourself doing it via commission.
Hi, here's a couple of sprites i did to practice, made from the base game and other free to use sprites.Would it be possible to ask for versions without a paint job and without the mounts? I would appreciate it, as I think I could very much use them for a project I'm working on!
I hope i can get to a level where i can actually make some decent sprites and make a faction mod soon. :)
I can also provide these without the paint job if someone wants them.
Quick question, if i were to draw a fighter, do i draw the weapons?
Thanks
Quick question, if i were to draw a fighter, do i draw the weapons?
Thanks
Generally yes, unless you want to include a missile (such as a torpedo) that would be visible until fired. General guns are typically drawn in, but they don't have to be. They probably shouldn't be drawn in if they are turrets- though this can be tricky to do depending on the weapon sprite size vs the fighter sprite size. Sometimes things have to be "implied underneath", etc.
I like that one. It has a good visual definition of the overall superstructure and layers. I also like the turret layout and shape. Very aesthetically pleasing to me. One confusing thing that stands out, imo, is the armor plates along the edges at the front portion. They seem visually higher than the layer the turret emplacements are set on. A minor thing though.
Overall good job. :)
I thought id post this ship I made for my son on photoshop from his favorite hotwheels car.Its a good likeness of a Hotwheels car! :)
Hi! I have a small ship, maybe someone will come in handy :)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ltMcggQB_so16o8cO7TUPYEQ8nn9IXyy?usp=sharing
(https://i.imgur.com/J1BYbrX.png)(https://i.imgur.com/aVQS124.png)(https://i.imgur.com/WNwj6Hd.png)(https://i.imgur.com/mqagxUH.png)(https://i.imgur.com/DjPtWFc.png)(https://i.imgur.com/otAJyQt.png)(https://i.imgur.com/SJeJEsh.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1YNs57y.png)(https://i.imgur.com/CrWzXvh.png)(https://i.imgur.com/0H2FlDt.png)(https://i.imgur.com/5ZoXzJC.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6nQi3ff.png)(https://i.imgur.com/0cpjZlB.png)(https://i.imgur.com/XqTqCBw.png)(https://i.imgur.com/bVlKMsx.png)(https://i.imgur.com/VC7xb0h.png)(https://i.imgur.com/VC7xb0h.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6qdqZlu.png)(https://i.imgur.com/aGpCaXE.png)(https://i.imgur.com/cYkD8UN.png)(https://i.imgur.com/IS9dpOF.png)(https://i.imgur.com/0PdzT7V.png)(https://i.imgur.com/afrNIEl.png)
turned the above vatican copycat into something a bit more original. now it's a thicc dedicated carrierSpoiler(https://imgur.com/o5HlpgV.png)[close]
and a few miscellaneous things.Spoiler(https://imgur.com/I1E17CG.png)(https://imgur.com/HmtDgZy.png)(https://imgur.com/fOJMC79.png)(https://imgur.com/aOpcKFL.png)[close]
Are those cruisers and destroyers or cruisers and frigates? Love the third one btw!two cruisers and two frigates, and thanks
(https://i.imgur.com/rIFB9ZU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sXLO3cC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/9PJ5U87.png)
Since it's getting removed from my mod next update, capital medusa can be used by anyone if they want.Thanks! I'll put it to use!
(https://i.imgur.com/VLu1yfC.png)
Artists: A-L
DrakonST
(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/drakonst_001.png)Spoiler(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/drakonst_002.png)(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/drakonst_003.png)(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/drakonst_004.png)[close]
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Hey DrakonST was wonder if i could use these? thanks in advance man!I'm pretty sure the last two images are already taken.
Hey DrakonST was wonder if i could use these? thanks in advance man!I'm pretty sure the last two images are already taken.
Yeah im looking to use the white ships, im having a mod made and well they fit the style i want for the ships. just need DrakonST to reply haha
Yeah im looking to use the white ships, im having a mod made and well they fit the style i want for the ships. just need DrakonST to reply haha
Well, reply from DrakonST will take a while, considering what he left SS community.
Yeah im looking to use the white ships, im having a mod made and well they fit the style i want for the ships. just need DrakonST to reply haha
Well, reply from DrakonST will take a while, considering what he left SS community.
i didn't know he left, well im not in a super rush and hes active often so just gotta play the waiting game now
i didn't know he left, well im not in a super rush and hes active often so just gotta play the waiting game now
i didn't know he left, well im not in a super rush and hes active often so just gotta play the waiting game now
Yes, as BigBeans said this is topic for unused/abandoned stuff, and if someone releases something here its means what its author already given permission to use, its more like Sprite Dump, where people toss sprites which they won't use but its just sad just to delete them. And speaking of Drakon_ST, he told in Russian Discord what he simply lost interest in SS, mostly because he as old player didn't liked how game development went from 06 versions to 095, (I'm new player, but I heard what many old players who played SS from 06 versions, often complain about broken game balance in new versions, especially Russian ones), you won't get his permission just by waiting here, only if you try contacting him directly.
I kinda used his sprites too in personal mod, mostly Low Tech and High Tech stuff, which I didn't uploaded yet. (I'm not sure if I will).
I'm taking this fellow, thanks; and I'm gonna rework it and publish it in DE(assuming that's allowed, but I suppose it technically is since this is spiral arms)Spoiler(http://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/protonus_ship02.jpg)[close]
I'm just gonna post these, since they've been lingering about for too long.
With Blue and Red already in functioning order to get updates, I don't think I could do more with them.
(https://i.imgur.com/H96MKTI.png) (https://i.imgur.com/b18RozX.png) (https://i.imgur.com/o6rD4BJ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/QvHjyb3.png) (https://i.imgur.com/NxhPZms.png) (https://i.imgur.com/W7W4qwG.png) (https://i.imgur.com/dD4Eknm.png) (https://i.imgur.com/Wug9TSQ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/QJd9sV1.png) (https://i.imgur.com/ueXy4Z5.png) (https://i.imgur.com/vfHlcqu.png) (https://i.imgur.com/BmarGvm.png) (https://i.imgur.com/Wh2xXhZ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ETTwjeW.png) (https://i.imgur.com/1iEx4rn.png)
Give them a home, tidy them up and you get yourself a new faction.
Learning to use AI art tools...
I am not completly against the usage of AI if you just use it as a tool to draw inspiration from, but by the looks of it you used a lot of modded content for your model, and if thats true, not mentioning which those have been trained on feels a bit wrong, even more so in case the artists havent been asked for consent from.Being a fine purveyor of Spiral Arms I am very familiar with the free to use content here and I can see the majority of the AI sprites sources are from this thread. Xenoargh is the OG curator of free to use and I highly doubt any mod released sprites were used.
I am not completly against the usage of AI if you just use it as a tool to draw inspiration from, but by the looks of it you used a lot of modded content for your model, and if thats true, not mentioning which those have been trained on feels a bit wrong, even more so in case the artists havent been asked for consent from.Being a fine purveyor of Spiral Arms I am very familiar with the free to use content here and I can see the majority of the AI sprites sources are from this thread. Xenoargh is the OG curator of free to use and I highly doubt any mod released sprites were used.
Speaking to the AI-art stuff: Rest assured, I'm not secretly training a model on mod work, lol.I'll be honest, I'm not very assured, because you just said "nuh uh, I wouldn't do that", but didn't show the inputs you used to generate the initial ships. Regardless, I'm not looking to have a fight about whether you actually did or did not- if you did, don't do it again; if you didn't, then there's no problem.
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So, as I hope you can see, there's no need to secretly use modders' work to train AIs with or anything remotely nefarious like that.
You could also run https://github.com/eballai/NoAI or https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/ on your images, if you're worried about having them scraped for use in a model like this.
I don't think this whole AI talk should be in this thread, it feels like something that should be a separate one.Sorry. I was dumb and thought we'd have a polite, considerate conversation in that other thread (https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=26227.0) discussing the technical how-to, and somebody out there with more knowledge would show up and demonstrate some truly advanced techniques, give out free tips and all that. Oh well :)
Just move the tirades about settings and raw output to your own thread, please.
to your own thread
This thread is meant to provide artists with a place to put free-to-use art assets they wish for the Starsector community.
Started by xenoargh;D
Leviathans from the deep.Spoiler(https://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_lowtech02.png)(https://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_lowtech03.png)(https://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_lowtech04.png)[close]
I haven't had much time to mess with all the AI-assisted art this last couple of weeks, but I've had a few things running in the background... mainly, reworking the Glaug.
For everybody who doesn't remember the Glaug (which, well, is pretty much everybody these days, unless you played Vacuum back in the day) the Glaug were meant to be a weird faction that used biotechnological ships and weapons, and were largely based on the drawings of my son, who was about 9 or 10 at the time.
They were pretty basic ideas about insect-like forms and so on, drawn with typical 9-year-old skill, and I was using the process as a teaching tool. But the actual faction was fun to fight against, and I always thought they needed more ship designs, and this AI stuff is great for this kind of thing. I can't promise this is coming to a playable mod any time soon, but I'll release a proper sprite sheet of this stuff when I think it's reasonably complete.(https://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/new_glaug_preview.png)
Reminder to everyone that Imgur is deleting all images not hosted under an account by May 15 (http://"https://gizmodo.com/imgur-bans-nsfw-content-will-delete-old-posts-1850356455"). Now might be the time to grab copies of the sprites from both this and the first Spiral Arms thread and archive them before they disappear from the internet.Oh, dear, I guess I'll have to update before then. Noted.
Having been quite annoyed by AI-generated images flooding stuff in the past, I do agree that it would be nice if AI stuff was mostly limited to its own thread as opposed to being mixed together with this one.Agreed, there are fantastic sprites here that people put good work into and seeing some crumbs made by an ai that most likely "learned" from proper artists without their permission is quite insulting.
On the AI-art stuff: I've updated the OP with my policy regarding that stuff going forward.
4. AI-generated works are permitted here, so long as they've been turned into sprites for people to use in their mods. From a copyright perspective, AI-generated works, unless they've directly copied a particular image, have been held by courts in the United States to be uncopyrighted material, because they're not derivative of anybody in particular and were produced by automation, much the same as using a Photoshop filter or other algorithmic techniques. Image-generation AIs are basically giant pattern-recognition systems; they don't "think" so much as try to figure out what a given thing might look like, based on the billions of images they've been trained on.
If using techniques such as img2img, inpainting, etc., the question of whether the artist can claim copyright to the resulting image is still being figured out by the court systems around the world, but it appears the answer to that will be "yes", because the input data was intended to produce a particular visual outcome. When you take an AI-generated sprite and edit it for use as a spaceship sprite, however, it's obviously copyrighted to you, and it's OK to post it here.
On the AI-art stuff: I've updated the OP with my policy regarding that stuff going forward.Quote4. AI-generated works are permitted here, so long as they've been turned into sprites for people to use in their mods. From a copyright perspective, AI-generated works, unless they've directly copied a particular image, have been held by courts in the United States to be uncopyrighted material, because they're not derivative of anybody in particular and were produced by automation, much the same as using a Photoshop filter or other algorithmic techniques. Image-generation AIs are basically giant pattern-recognition systems; they don't "think" so much as try to figure out what a given thing might look like, based on the billions of images they've been trained on.
If using techniques such as img2img, inpainting, etc., the question of whether the artist can claim copyright to the resulting image is still being figured out by the court systems around the world, but it appears the answer to that will be "yes", because the input data was intended to produce a particular visual outcome. When you take an AI-generated sprite and edit it for use as a spaceship sprite, however, it's obviously copyrighted to you, and it's OK to post it here.
Look, your not making your image better by saying how its okay to steal sprites from other community members by putting them through an un-copyrighting tool.
You could have just said that its okay to post AI-generated sprites here and thats it, but instead you had to make it about how this post tolerates art theft.
The issue in a scale of a small community like this often isnt legality, but just good conduct. Trying to play the legal card here about how the artist technicly looses their copyright just gives of sense of bad faith.
I do think the AI Art is fine, though it should get its own thread instead of you trying to keep it on this. Im sure you will find people that are fine with feeding their sprites in to an algorithm there if your just front up about it.
If somebody wants to host a thread where only AI-generated stuff is allowed, great!SpoilerThat's not sarcasm, I promise.
I'm totally serious. If people want to do that much work for the good of the community, I'm 100% supportive of that.
So, are you part of this posse and you want to volunteer? Great. A place like this has to have a bunch of things:
1. Somewhere to park all the data that's 100% reliable. Up for eternity on a web-host where you have FTP access, basically. Not a Google Drive, Dropbox, etc., but a real host. It's cheap these days.
2. Understands that this only really works if it takes all entries (i.e., no gatekeeping, no elitism, etc.) while dealing with the occasional copyright drama.
3. Has a person in charge who wants to put in the hours of work it takes to update the OP (because otherwise, the thread's useless, the images get buried).
If somebody really wants to do that for AI-generated spaceship sprites, I'm totally supportive. I'll even post there :)
But... not me. This is my little job, and it's all I'm able to find time for.
The people who think this is "just a thread" have never, ever maintained something like this one, and might want to stare at the OP posts for a while. It took something like 3 hours out of my Saturday afternoon to finally collate, label, sort and upload the last batch (roughly 8 new artists, 60 entries), then make sure everything was working properly with the posts, etc., etc. Maybe longer- I tend to lose track of time when I'm playing Sprite Librarian (most boring game ever, -10/10).
So if you want that vision and are willing to do the work, it's totally cool with me. Get it off the ground, and I'll happily jump on that bandwagon. Again, not sarcastic- just be aware of what you'd be expected to do. It's a big deal. Keep in mind, folks... I took up this job from Medikohl, after he'd been doing it for 3 years. I've been doing it for 6. So, this is a very serious commitment. When I say, "basically forever" on the OP, I meant that.
But, if somebody wants that level of commitment... I'd be the first one to give them a massive thumbs-up.[close]
Meanwhile, here's a spaceship:
(https://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_longhaul.png)SpoilerThe Longhaul-class freighter is frequently seen making the shorter runs between the Core Worlds. It's a fuel-hungry, but relatively fast cargo hauler with excellent tonnage capacity inside its modular cargo bays. It's poorly armed, but moderately well-shielded and reasonably quick, so it's sometimes converted into a drone-swarm assault vessel by Pirates, who regard such a design as an excellent first chance for a younger captain to prove themselves.
A little irony here: this is "AI-generated" in only the loosest sense. About 95% of the pixels there are me, because I had real problems getting the AI to figure out the cargo pods. Next time I'll do that as a separate job and see if it can do better, lol.[close]
@Big Bee: I'm glad you get it. What you've proposed is a workable compromise.SpoilerI am willing create an AI sub-section, per artist, when they submit works made in that way.
Caveat: I can't create new blank posts in the OP to make it into some special animal all its own. This is a technical limitation, not me being unwilling. IDK whether even Alex can do that. I'll consider asking him, but I hate asking him for favors like that, because he has better things to do with his time.
When I started this, I never imagined the OP's would get so big, frankly, so I didn't reserve enough posts for this to go on for, well, we're getting nearly to a decade now, lol. At some point, the posts will hit the character limit and I'll be forced into consolidating artists' submissions into big PNGs, which will involve more work and make it a little harder for people to use.
This compromise, of course, would require that artists say that they used AI art tools in the first place. So that's going to have to be on the honor system. If you haven't already figured it out... it's going to be nearly impossible to tell, when talented artists use this tech as a base and spend some time on polish.
Since there's <counts fingers> only one person doing this right now, that won't add much new work for me, other than creating a new sub-section under the artist's other works.
Note: this isn't a blank check on my time. The policy would have to be reviewed if there was an actual flood of polished AI-gen ship sprites from a significant number of artists (like, if five artists all whip out 100 beautifully-polished ships in six months... I'll both be delighted that people have chosen to give so much work here, and horrified at the workload, lol).
If people just let the AI do all the work, then submit without polish (turret positions, etc.) I may have to adjust policy there as well, since in theory some kid could use MS-Paint and Easy Diffusion to make a bunch of really awful "ships". But I'll err on the side of, "takes everything" for now, because the whole point of this gets undermined if I feel like I'm having to gatekeep.
But that probably won't happen. In my experience, we get somebody really talented like Bananana who submits a bunch of stuff in a pile, because they have too much sitting around for their own projects... and then nothing but the occasional single sprite for weeks or months.[close]
Meanwhile, a new ship appears!
(https://www.wolfegames.com/TA_Section/SpiralArms/xenoargh/xenoargh_horsethistle.png)SpoilerThe Horse-Thistle class, a new "pocket battleship" design, has yet to be seen outside the occasional Merc fleet, as the sheer expense and specialized role make it unlikely to see military procurement.
The ship is, like the Pirate's Acanthus-class, an unusual "flying wing" shape, which permits it to use an unusual amount of frontal-facing weaponry. However, this design imposes the terrible limitation of being ineffective against flanking opponents, and it's woefully under-equipped for anti-missile defense. Only its built in Plasma Jets allow it enough mobility to strike hard, then run away before being overwhelmed.
Artists note: this was made with a simple grayish flying-wing design. Why it came out green-blue, IDK, but I went with it. It's really, really hard to get inference AI to make this kind of design well; this took several tweaks to both the text prompts and the base art.[close]
So a couple of us still occasionally work with the Battleships Forever Shipmaker on its discord because of raw nostalgia. Over the past few three or so years I've made some things I'm quite proud of (most of them when I broke my hand and couldn't really do anything else), and I figured I'd post them here for you all. Feel free to make edits to these as you see fit. If you need me to remove glows or make simple alterations, feel free to shoot me a PM or reply here and I can do that pretty easily. I'll also give you the sb4's if you know how to use the Shipmaker, but I'm not sure many know how to work it these days.
There's lots in here.Spoiler(https://i.ibb.co/25rVt0V/Judicator.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/CJPV1rY/Prodigal.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/1n4pZH0/Rorschach.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/L8nC5Sr/SMscreen05.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/w42bg76/SMscreen025.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/S64GzPb/SMscreen028.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/23C48zT/SMscreen030.png) (https://ibb.co/xqBTmnN)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sc5CZTF/SMscreen039.png) (https://ibb.co/zFQvtcq)
(https://i.ibb.co/yB8rgtk/SMscreen044.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/5WYgS9G/SMscreen053.png) (https://ibb.co/C5J3Ytm)
(https://i.ibb.co/6yRRvvg/SMscreen055.png) (https://imgbb.com/)[close]
Also, if anyone is really desperate, they can also go to the BSF forums (http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=2) and can use anything posted with my name.
Enjoy!
have fun with these because i wont lol
all these are up for grabs, made by various people
[All sprites in this post were removed due to missing credits as explicitly required by the creator(s). - Hartley]
all these are up for grabs, made by various people
My Star Wars ships I made a long time ago that I no longer want to maintain. Maybe someone else can find use for them.
(https://i.imgur.com/8OolUG4.png)