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Title: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
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Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Alex on May 24, 2017, 07:42:47 PM
One thing I'd suggest is setting Xms to 4096 as well.

Also, apparently this is the error when saving:

Code
1174717 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.82031035
1174733 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.83278656
1174750 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.84370327
1174767 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.8592985
1174783 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.8733342
1174800 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.88737
1174817 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.90452474
1174833 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.92012
1174850 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.93415576
1174919 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.94663197
1174930 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.9575486
1174940 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.9669058
1174950 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.9762629
1174967 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.9840605
1174983 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 0.9980963
1175000 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Saving progress: 1.0
1175000 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Releasing context
1175000 [Thread-13] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.campaign.save.CampaignGameManager  - Released context
1265074 [Thread-4] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher  - java.lang.RuntimeException: No OpenGL context found in the current thread.
java.lang.RuntimeException: No OpenGL context found in the current thread.
   at org.lwjgl.opengl.GLContext.getCapabilities(GLContext.java:124)
   at org.lwjgl.opengl.GL11.glDeleteLists(GL11.java:714)
   at com.fs.graphics.util.GLListManager.invalidateList(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.graphics.util.GLListManager.nextFrame(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 07:45:07 PM
`could also send the settings file as i did change a few things and don't know if its something that could potentially break the game.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 07:46:19 PM
it does the error but it also freezes with no error. Its random. So wheres the save bak?
 nvm got it
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Alex on May 24, 2017, 07:48:19 PM
Hmm. It's probably simpler just to save off the mods/saves/jre folders and do a clean install, then re-edit vmparams. Trying to undo changes in settings.json piecemeal would be awkward because we'd never be 100% sure we got everything back the right way.

it does the error but it also freezes with no error. Its random. So wheres the save bak?

In the save folder, i.e.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\saves\save_OlawaleShah_74428219013394290\campaign.xml.bak
C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\saves\save_OlawaleShah_74428219013394290\descriptor.xml.bak



Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 07:50:49 PM
will do since i already have a fresh game copy in case i *** up something.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
um i can't delete the starsector core folder and its empty...
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 08:02:33 PM
wtf okay so i make a copy of the folders, delete *** i replace with the old stuff (mods, jre, weapon specs, portrait folder) and i edit meme allocation and launch the game and throws me an error: Fatal: Ship hull spec (mule) not found! Check starsector.log for more info. it throwed the crash twice... wtf
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 08:05:58 PM
okay i go to launch the game from the other backup folder and it throws me a different error: Fatal: Eror loading [data/hulls/ship_data.csv] resource, not found in [.,/starfarer.res/res,CLASSPATH]... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhgggggggggggggggggg  why does it have to be such a pain in the ass to get simple game running A 2D GAME WHY!?  >:( ??? :o
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 08:19:02 PM
alright got it running alex how to convert the bak file to xml?
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Alex on May 24, 2017, 08:22:28 PM
Make a copy of the .bak files (so as not to lose them) and then just remove the .bak from the filenames.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 08:52:59 PM
hmm for some reason I can't... btw nomads is now 0.8a comp so i am restarting as i can't miss out on it and will do the same with blackrock but it still doesn't fix the issue for the future...
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 24, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
also found the same issue i found previously where outfitting seems to have a memory leak. I just installed the reds and tried to outfit the largest ship and after a certain point it starts freezing and the game slows down till it crashes. And it was with 64 bit java weirdly enough...
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Alex on May 25, 2017, 09:14:50 AM
also found the same issue i found previously where outfitting seems to have a memory leak. I just installed the reds and tried to outfit the largest ship and after a certain point it starts freezing and the game slows down till it crashes. And it was with 64 bit java weirdly enough...

Hmm - if you haven't already, would you mind posting about that in the mod's thread? I'm sure the mod author would like to know.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 09:34:59 AM
alright i will. Seems like saving is still an issue. I tried the game with 4 gigs and 4 gigs and it still has issues. Increased the second one to 8 gigs but the saving is still not working :(
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
okay so now i just copied a save and the game didn't crash its just not responding and stuck at 0%cpu and 38.7mb being used... like its not changing its just staying like this... Is it a bug?  

update: i had to end task it as it was doing nothing. all that changed in 10 minutes is it went up to 38.8mb but thats it.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 10:09:34 AM
damn found a crash while in a battle heres the log

698295 [Thread-4] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatEngine  - FP1: 608, FP2: 597, maxFP1: 405, maxFP2: 395
698383 [Thread-4] INFO  org.histidine.chatter.combat.ChatterCombatPlugin  - Chatter plugin initialized
710681 [Thread-4] INFO  com.fs.starfarer.loading.LoadingUtils  - Loading JSON from [chatterConfig.json]
743023 [Thread-10] INFO  sound.O  - Creating streaming player for music with id [battle_ambience_01.ogg]
743023 [Thread-10] INFO  sound.null  - Playing music with id [battle_ambience_01.ogg]
747541 [Thread-8] INFO  sound.O  - Cleaning up music with id [battle_ambience_01.ogg]
893840 [Thread-4] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1
java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1
   at java.util.ArrayList.elementData(Unknown Source)
   at java.util.ArrayList.get(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.renderers.damage.D.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.renderers.damage.D.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.ship.OoOO.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.ship.OoOO.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.ship.OoOO.applyDamage(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.Ship.applyDamageInner(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.Ship.applyDamageInner(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.entities.Ship.applyDamage(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.systems.EmpArcEntity.doDamage(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.systems.EmpArcEntity.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatEngine.advanceInner(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatEngine.advance(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatState.traverse(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

its the 3rd time it happends in a row. I don't know if your fixed that for .1a :P
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 10:11:29 AM
i am trying 4 gigs and 6 gigs now to see if that makes a difference
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Alex on May 25, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
Thanks for the crash report; that's fixed for the .1 release.

Really don't know what's going on. At this point, I would suggest disabling some mods to see if that helps/if you can nail down which one is causing it; as far as I'm aware people are able to run a bunch of mods with this memory allocation without these problems.

If someone with more experience re: specific mods has any thoughts and could chime in, that would be very helpful.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Dark.Revenant on May 25, 2017, 10:50:47 AM
Point of note: The ship he is having trouble with comes from the "Reds" faction, is about 20 times longer than an onslaught and 4 times wider, has 24 flight decks, and has hundreds of weapons.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Alex on May 25, 2017, 11:12:18 AM
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Sounds like it'd be a bug somewhere if that didn't cause problems. Yeah, that's just not going to work well period, it's way too far outside the expected parameters of operation.
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 11:33:47 AM
yeah i would expect :P but yeah I will try to see if reducing some mods will fix it. The weird part is i can save as soon as the game start but after a few days it becomes impossible... I have a feeling the game tries to save too many things on the market and it just piles up. Save transfer would really be useful for me as the game is stable now, I didn't get any crashes but its still annoying to know that any progress i have will be wiped out :( I really would like to have help to find the issue as its been like this forever and everyone else has a blast while i play on a bomb but the game just doesn't work... but works fine on peoples laptops. Could it be a hardware incompatibility issue? bios? just drivers in general?

Could it be possible that the game isn't being run by admin? and if so, could it be the cause? Hell could it be java 64 bits u79 the problem? as it seems like the crash i had earlier was a lack of memory but there clearly is enough. I also have a memory leak in my windows explorer and i need to restart it every now and then could that be a cause?

tried debugging the game using MVS (the game is not responding but this time it seems like the cpu is still working as it keeps moving around 70% to 86% use) and the ram is stuck at 994.6mb

so yeah heres what the output says if it helps:
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\java.exe'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\kernel32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\KernelBase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\apphelp.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\apppatch\apppatch64\AcGenral.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msvcrt.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\sspicli.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\shlwapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\user32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ole32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\shell32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\userenv.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\advapi32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mpr.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\rpcrt4.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\sechost.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\combase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\gdi32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\profapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\SHCore.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\imm32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msctf.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.9600.18006_none_623f33d3ecbe86e8\comctl32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\msvcr100.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wsock32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmm.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\psapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ws2_32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmmbase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nsi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cfgmgr32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\devobj.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\verify.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\java.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\zip.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\awt.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\oleaut32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\net.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mswsock.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\nio.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\starsector-core\native\windows\lwjgl64.dll'. Module was built without symbols.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\opengl32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\version.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\glu32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ddraw.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dciman32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\uxtheme.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Display\nvsmartmax64.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntmarta.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dwmapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\kernel.appcore.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cryptbase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcryptprimitives.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cryptsp.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\rsaenh.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcrypt.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\IPHLPAPI.DLL'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winnsi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dhcpcsvc6.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dhcpcsvc.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvoglv64.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\setupapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wtsapi32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wintrust.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\crypt32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msasn1.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvspcap64.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winhttp.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvapi64.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mscms.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\icm32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\powrprof.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winsta.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\jpeg.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\starsector-core\native\windows\OpenAL64.dll'. Module was built without symbols.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\clbcatq.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\MMDevAPI.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dsound.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\AudioSes.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\kcms.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
The thread 0x1cf4 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\java.exe'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\kernel32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\KernelBase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\apphelp.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
SHIMVIEW: ShimInfo(Complete)
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\apppatch\apppatch64\AcGenral.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msvcrt.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\sspicli.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\shlwapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\user32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ole32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\shell32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\userenv.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\advapi32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mpr.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\rpcrt4.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\sechost.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\combase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\gdi32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\profapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\SHCore.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\imm32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msctf.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.9600.18006_none_623f33d3ecbe86e8\comctl32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\msvcr100.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wsock32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmm.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\psapi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ws2_32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmmbase.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nsi.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cfgmgr32.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\devobj.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\verify.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\java.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe' (Win32): Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\zip.dll'. Cannot find or open the PDB file.
The thread 0x1958 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 0x1d98 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 0x1dcc has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 0xcb4 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1c88 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x260 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x8bc has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1aac has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1f88 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1988 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1acc has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x9ac has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x17bc has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0xb40 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1bfc has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x110c has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1d30 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The thread 0x1e68 has exited with code 1 (0x1).
The program '[5780] java.exe' has exited with code 1 (0x1).
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 12:06:08 PM
okay well now the game crashed again after letting it idle for like 20 minutes and it gave the opengl error again

'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\java.exe', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\kernel32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\KernelBase.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\apphelp.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\apppatch\apppatch64\AcGenral.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msvcrt.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\sspicli.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\shlwapi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\user32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ole32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\shell32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\userenv.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\advapi32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mpr.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\rpcrt4.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\sechost.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\combase.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\gdi32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\profapi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\SHCore.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\imm32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msctf.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.9600.18006_none_623f33d3ecbe86e8\comctl32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\msvcr100.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wsock32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmm.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\psapi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ws2_32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmmbase.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nsi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cfgmgr32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\devobj.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\verify.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\java.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\zip.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\awt.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\oleaut32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\net.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mswsock.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\nio.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\starsector-core\native\windows\lwjgl64.dll', Binary was not built with debug information.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\opengl32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\version.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\glu32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ddraw.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dciman32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\uxtheme.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Display\nvsmartmax64.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntmarta.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dwmapi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\kernel.appcore.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cryptbase.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcryptprimitives.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\cryptsp.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\rsaenh.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcrypt.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\IPHLPAPI.DLL', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winnsi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dhcpcsvc6.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dhcpcsvc.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvoglv64.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\setupapi.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wtsapi32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\wintrust.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\crypt32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\msasn1.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvspcap64.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winhttp.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvapi64.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\mscms.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\icm32.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\powrprof.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\winsta.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\jpeg.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\starsector-core\native\windows\OpenAL64.dll', Binary was not built with debug information.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\clbcatq.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\MMDevAPI.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\dsound.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\AudioSes.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
'java.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Fractal Softworks\Starsector\jre\bin\kcms.dll', Cannot find or open the PDB file.
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0x12d4) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
First-chance exception at 0x047b21be in java.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x0000000000000008.
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0xa64) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0xc48) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0x1fd4) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0x1ea4) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0x1c2c) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0x147c) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win64 Thread' (0x1d38) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: MesoTroniK on May 25, 2017, 06:14:32 PM
Mealstrom, you are running alot of less than reputable mods. And just alot of mods in general!

Try removing:

Arsenal Expansion
ATX
Combat Alarm Sounds
GKsec
Fed Lagacy
Raccoons Weapon Pack
Tore Up Plenty
The Red / Oculian Berserks (whatever it is called)
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 07:09:12 PM
alright will do :P also i got a crash while leveling up a commander
13088042 [Thread-4] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - java.lang.NullPointerException
java.lang.NullPointerException
   at com.fs.starfarer.coreui.oOO0.dialogDismissed(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.ui.while.dismiss(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.ui.impl.J.dismiss(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.coreui.A.dismiss(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.coreui.A.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.ui.j.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.ui.I.processInput(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.ui.V.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.BaseGameState.traverse(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
 
I will remove the mods you suggested to remove. The only one I do want to keep is Tore up plenty as its really fun but i guess the rest has to go :/
also templar knights seem to be a big factor as i disabled it and it seems to work now... I testes it on a new save (which didn't have the reds as well) so yeah I will do as you said
Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Maelstrom on May 25, 2017, 09:34:29 PM
so even after removing mods the game still has issues... Is it possible playing on a medium sized map could cause this issue?

Title: Re: saving issues
Post by: Midnight Kitsune on May 25, 2017, 09:49:06 PM
Is your max officer level set higher than 29? If so then that can cause a crash