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Title: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 26, 2017, 03:16:23 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FZ8D8Gm.jpg)

Explore new systems, with more varied planets and backgrounds.

(http://i.imgur.com/ijcYsuF.png)
Download (https://www.patreon.com/posts/49266173)
NexusMod mirror (https://www.nexusmods.com/starsector/mods/14)

   Essentially a direct implementation of the best of my Texture Pack (http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=8136). This mod significantly expands the variety of systems and planets you'll encounter while exploring. To other modders that used the resources pack, please make sure to update the names and paths of your planets as to not needlessly bloat the memory.

   Also includes a handful of additional and rare planetary conditions that can make or break a colonization candidate, as well as a few new ambiance sounds for different terrain types.

   This mod does not affect the amount of "good" or "bad" planets you will find in the sector, only increase the variety of planets inside each vanilla categories.

Screenshots:

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/NrqyfZN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hD7VqEl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/g4jKULI.jpg)
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Thanks to Serenitis that provided some of the planets maps.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: AxleMC131 on April 26, 2017, 03:58:16 AM
It looks incredibly pretty and appropriate for the new 0.8 features!

(Also want to see more screenshots please...  ;) )
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Gothars on April 26, 2017, 04:05:47 AM
Very pretty. You know, this will be my first mod for 0.8 :)

(New game not necessary, right?)
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 26, 2017, 04:11:37 AM
(Also want to see more screenshots please...  ;) )
But then where's the fun in exploring new stuff?

Very pretty. You know, this will be my first mod for 0.8 :)

(New game not necessary, right?)
Thanks and a new game is necessary, the new content is directly added to the procgen tables.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: AxleMC131 on April 26, 2017, 04:13:04 AM
(Also want to see more screenshots please...  ;) )
But then where's the fun in exploring new stuff?

Aww... I suppose there's that.  :P
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: AxleMC131 on April 26, 2017, 04:14:03 AM
Having said that, it'd be cool to have a gallery or something where players using the mod could share screenshots of their most epic and beautiful adventures.

... Am I thinking too far into this?
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: SafariJohn on April 26, 2017, 06:46:52 AM
Looking good!

Although you might want to change "plateaux" to "plateaus", as it seems only some Brits still use the French plural form. I know I thought it was a typo at first.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 26, 2017, 07:02:06 AM
Although you might want to change "plateaux" to "plateaus", as it seems only some Brits still use the French plural form. I know I thought it was a typo at first.
Sorry but as a Frenchman I won't get convinced to write the plural of plateau with anything but a "x". (plus the usage is actually still near 50/50 in British English, not "some")
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: SafariJohn on April 26, 2017, 07:56:53 AM
Less than most is some ;)
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Sy on April 26, 2017, 12:42:57 PM
uuh, nice! O:
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: PyroFuzz on April 26, 2017, 01:01:14 PM
Surveying planets gives me ideas to colonize them or something!
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Bishi on April 27, 2017, 05:22:50 AM
Nice! But isn't this in the wrong section?
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: AxleMC131 on April 27, 2017, 02:57:46 PM
Nice! But isn't this in the wrong section?

Mods start out in the "Modding" section of the forum, and have to be approved by the admins before it can be moved up into the parent "Mods" section. Also, it's not necessarily the wrong place - mods can be found in either.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Serenitis on April 28, 2017, 04:04:23 AM
Thanks for triggering some Star Control nostalgia with those planet classes.
This is a good mod, and you should feel good.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on April 28, 2017, 05:04:11 AM
Another day, another episode of "Tartiflette spoils us with great content and assorted eyegasm"
Finally a series that people want to last longer than Beautiful
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 28, 2017, 06:16:20 AM
"I'm here to serve." :)
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Darenkel on April 29, 2017, 08:56:08 AM
Just thought I'd let you know, this mod doesn't play well with Lightshow (black screen after loading) and the Portrait Pack (causes a Fatal:null error for some reason).
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: DanJSC on April 29, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Just thought I'd let you know, this mod doesn't play well with Lightshow (black screen after loading) and the Portrait Pack (causes a Fatal:null error for some reason).

I had this too, it seemed like it was shadowyards when i did it. What fixed it was doing the old 64bit java thing and enabling more something, ram probably. I'm using portrait pack too, not getting that problem though.

If it's not mod specific, it may be something to do with the base game?
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Serenitis on April 29, 2017, 04:27:25 PM
Just a thought, which you may/may not agree with:
The clouds on these lovely new planets move far too quickly for my taste, and look a little odd.

After changing a few numbers in planets.json and I'm much happier with the result.
I swapped the rotation direction as well as I think it looks better.
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cloudRotation values
US_gas_giant: -7
US_acid: -4
US_acidRain: -4
US_acidWind: -6
US_alkali: -5
US_auric: -6
US_auricCloudy: -6
US_red: -5
US_redWind: -7
US_green: -5
US_blue: -5
US_purple: -6
US_water: -5
US_arid: -5
US_dust: -5
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subjective.txt
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Darenkel on May 04, 2017, 11:42:20 PM
So, after finding out that the Fatal:null error was a RAM allocation issue, I solved it and I'm able to use every mod I've bothered trying.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Serenitis on May 13, 2017, 01:32:19 PM
I have a hundred or so planet textures I've been collecting for a while and this seems like it might be a good home for them, but I have no idea where most of them originally came from.
Would something like that be of any use?
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(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Tifi78/list_zpsuthruvbp.png)
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Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 13, 2017, 03:53:38 PM
Send them my way, I can add a few more to the mod no problem.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Serenitis on May 14, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
PM sent.
Hope there's something useful. :)
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.1 (26/04/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 14, 2017, 02:52:49 AM
Right on time! I'm in the middle of cleaning up the json files!
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 14, 2017, 02:58:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ijcYsuF.png) (https://bitbucket.org/CodingTartiflette/torchships/downloads/UnknownSkies_v0.2.7z)

Thanks to Serenitis, I have added a dozen new planet types, and cleaned up some mistakes. This update should be compatible with your save.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: SierraTangoDelta on May 14, 2017, 03:21:42 PM
Are red planets always pointless to survey? Seems like they never have anything.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Nanao-kun on May 16, 2017, 12:26:53 AM
I don't think I've found a red planet with anything on them either.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Metadane on May 17, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
Thanks very much for this mod my fine sir :^)
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Serenitis on May 17, 2017, 10:58:26 AM
Oh cool. You made some interesting changes to some of those.
And you even made a lightmap for the lava hellworld.
Classy stuff!
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: cjuicy on May 17, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
I don't think I've found a red planet with anything on them either.
I think I found one with decent deposits of both ores, but that was it.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Draconis13 on May 19, 2017, 10:15:42 AM
Speaking of world generation. I have found over 10 artificial worlds at this point. Each of which has been a class 1 with sparse deposits or similarly uninteresting. Which is odd considering that they are entirely covered in ruins but I have never found one with ruins or anything interesting. They usually aren't even hot or cold. They would seem to be full of tech caches or at least readily salvaged materials. Even if they are just masses of empty spaced buildings. I am surprised they also aren't polluted or decivilized.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Serenitis on May 19, 2017, 04:10:15 PM
The worldgen does seem rather keen on bunching similar planet types together.
Like having multiple planets in a system with the same texture. RNG does odd things sometimes.

Life bearing worlds with a class of 4 or 5 are also much more common than vanilla. Probably due to the wider selection of habitable planet types.

Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: intrinsic_parity on May 26, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
I found a lifeless planet that was habitable with organics and farmland
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/8i4pXWd.png)
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seemed a little odd.
Title: Re: [0.8a] Unknown Skies v0.2 (15/05/2017)
Post by: Draconis13 on May 26, 2017, 09:01:14 PM
Definitely odd but in game that would be explained away as the planet has ruins, thus it was settled by the domain and subsequently lost along with its new terran-lite biosphere during the collapse. I think it would be neat to see more terraformed and failed terraformed worlds. Like one where the soil nanites borked up or the planet is covered in a mat of noxious algae scum that was supposed to kickstart the atmosphere. Lot of fun stuff to find. I think my favorite so far is when a world has pollution and the description. I can't want to see what odd encounters and inplace faculties we will find in subsequent versions. My big hope is we can tech raid ruins and deciviilized worlds for rare materials and items.
Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Unknown Skies v0.21 (04/06/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on June 04, 2017, 08:32:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ijcYsuF.png) (https://bitbucket.org/CodingTartiflette/torchships/downloads/UnknownSkies_v0.21.7z)

Only minor adjustments to the procgen repartitions. Still no clue about why some generated planets are empty.
Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Unknown Skies v0.21 (04/06/2017)
Post by: adimetro00 on June 12, 2017, 03:10:22 AM
Will you add more "habitable-looking" planets?
Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Unknown Skies v0.21 (04/06/2017)
Post by: Tartiflette on June 12, 2017, 03:22:10 AM
Those are so rare in-game I don't think we need too many.
Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Unknown Skies v0.21 (04/06/2017)
Post by: Alphascrub on June 13, 2017, 07:11:42 PM
Honestly you made a mod that made changes that I didn't even know I wanted changed. Now I don't want to play without it. Great Job.
Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Unknown Skies v0.21 (04/06/2017)
Post by: MCWarhammer on June 19, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
Thanks Tartiflette, this is my favorite .8a mod so far. You're a rock star!
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: Tartiflette on November 17, 2018, 04:26:24 AM
Updated for 0.9.0a.

I finally found what caused the empty planets and implemented a very dirty workaround until a possible fix from vanilla (if there is ever one). In the meantime some planets might not have the conditions you'd expect, most notably the volcanic ones.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: YuiTheModder on November 25, 2018, 04:11:28 AM
Will you give planets custom modifiers to suit their lore?

Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: Tartiflette on November 25, 2018, 04:39:22 AM
Unlikely. Or at least not for a while given all the stuff I have on my plate. What I will do however is to add them to more fitting pools of conditions when (if?) Alex fixes an issue preventing some type of planets from recieving any conditions at all.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: Serenitis on November 26, 2018, 11:13:34 AM
So.... What was causing the blank planet syndrome anyway?

[e]
Also just noticed something:
The the texture US_planet_textureChlorine.jpg has 2 columns of 'off' pixels down it's left hand edge.
It's not something you can really see in the flat image, unless you're looking for it. But in game it stands out quite a bit by making it look like the planet has a seam.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: Troika on November 26, 2018, 12:28:17 PM
For some reason, an unusual number of habitable planets are alkalai planets.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: travhill20 on December 02, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
For some reason, an unusual number of habitable planets are alkalai planets.

That is vanilla behavior and is reflective of real life. About a quarter of known alkali planets could support life.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: AxleMC131 on December 02, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
For some reason, an unusual number of habitable planets are alkalai planets.

That is vanilla behavior and is reflective of real life. About a quarter of known alkali planets could support life.

I didn't think Alkali planets were vanilla.  ???
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.30 (2018/11/17)
Post by: Serenitis on December 03, 2018, 10:31:45 AM
They're not.
Alkali worlds are a nod to Star Control 2, where they were almost always full of various forms of life.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.31 (2018/12/13)
Post by: Tartiflette on December 13, 2018, 02:25:49 AM
Tiny update:
"Red Worlds" are now called "Crimson planets" to avoid any confusion.
Water worlds can now build Aquacultures rather than Farms.

Get it in the OP.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.31 (2018/12/13)
Post by: arwan on December 13, 2018, 02:57:50 AM
i am assuming so... but will we have to restart to see changes.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Tartiflette on March 29, 2019, 12:08:31 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FZ8D8Gm.jpg)

   Update time! Unknown Skies gets expanded: it now has two new rare planet types that, with the already present Artificial Worlds, get unique planetary conditions potentially making them interesting colonization targets. Additionally, a handful of other rare planetary conditions have been added, some good, other bad, that could make or break a potential colonization candidate. Spawn rates have been adjusted (now habitable planets no longer have a greater chance to be Alkali worlds) and proper resources have been scripted into the added Volcanic planets. Lastly, a handful of ambiance sounds have been added to the terrain that were lacking those. (this update won't break saves but will require a new game to take effect)

KNOWN ISSUE: The discoverable conditions effects won't be reflected in the colonization screen stats, but will be properly applied once the colony is established. This is already fixed for 0.9.1.

Download in the OP (http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12041.0)

Happy exploring!
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Serenitis on March 31, 2019, 03:40:27 AM
This mod continues to own.
There are some very interesting conditions to find.

Some things to think about for the future:
(Unsure how possible, or sensible some of these currently are)
Spoiler
Abandoned Mining Rig
Gives +1 yield to minerals, transmetals and volatiles mined on this world, for any already present.
requiresAny - any presence of the above

Reclaimed Prospect Drone
Adds minimal yield to minerals, transmetals and volatiles, for any not already present on this world.
Not gas giants.

Derelict Refining Facility
Gives +1 production to refined metals, refined transmetals and fuel on this world.
requiresAny - any ruins

Pre-Collapse Civilian Manufactory
Reduces upkeep for Light Industry by 33%.
Gives +2 production to consumer goods and +1 to luxury goods.
requiresAny - any ruins

Habitation Blocks
Gives -50% to planetary hazard level.
Reduces population upkeep cost by 10%.
Artificial Worlds only.

Salvaged Hydroponics Bays
Adds minimal food production ability (farmland_poor) to a world which does not already have any.
requiresNotAny - any farmland

Domain-era Administrative Complex
Reduces global upkeep for all colonies in same system by 10%.
Gives +1 stability for all colonies in same system.
This colony does not count towards administration cap.
requiresAny - ruins_extensive, ruins_vast

Pre-Collapse Atmosphere Processor
Slowly decreases hazard rating by removing hazard conditions as colony grows.
Size 5 - Remove pollution
Size 6 - Remove extreme weather
Size 7 - Remove thin or dense atmosphere, change no atmosphere to thin atmosphere
Size 8 - Remove toxic atmosphere, remove thin atmosphere if previously changed from none
requiresAny - no_atmosphere,thin_atmosphere,toxic_atmosphere,dense_atmosphere,extreme_weather,pollution

Radio-Partictulate Projector
Mitigates the effects of radiation, reducing it's effects by half (-25% hazard).
Addition of planetary shield removes irradiated condition entirely. (Not permanent - if shield is removed, condition returns.)
requiresAll - irradiated

Network Terminus Station
Allows connection to the communications relay network without a comm station built in system.
Increases global upkeep costs on this world by 10%.
Reduces growth by -6, plus an additional -2 for every colony size gained.
requiresAny - any ruins
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Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Tartiflette on March 31, 2019, 06:35:05 AM
I wish to add more, but sadly conditions can only affect the hazard rating, immigration rate, accessibility, ship production quality and stability. Beyond that I can only add other conditions if one is present. So while I did have a lot of ideas similar to yours they cannot be done via simple conditions. (also, some of those would better fit as industries, but that would go further than the scope of this mod)
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Alex on March 31, 2019, 08:52:03 AM
Hmm - am I missing something as far as what's required to add, say, a condition that gives +1 to an output of Refining of Fuel Production? It seems like an approach similar to ResourceDepositsCondition (but simpler in that it would be less generic - so, get industry and if it's there, add to its supply) ought to work, but it is entirely possible I'm not thinking of a roadblock to this.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Tartiflette on March 31, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
Well I tried to improve the production of Drugs (because Xeno-shrooms should definitively be a thing) and I failed miserably. Maybe I'll take another look at it if you say it should be doable.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Alex on March 31, 2019, 12:02:59 PM
I think so, yes - it would not, as far as I can see, be too different from how farmland affects the production of food. It'd be something like:

Code: java
Industry industry = market.getIndustry(Industries.POPULATION);
int modifier = 1;
if (industry.isFunctional()) {
industry.supply(id + "_0", Commodities.DRUGS, modifier, "Xeno-fungus");
} else {
industry.getSupply(commodityId).getQuantity().unmodifyFlat(id + "_0");
}

You would also need to repeat the same code for LIGHT_INDUSTRY provided it's a free port. So, it'd have to be coded for specific industries that produce drugs. One other approach might be to iterate over the industries to see if they're already supplying drugs, and if so provide the bonus. That would fail when population is small enough not to produce any drugs, though. It's also a bit iffy in that conditions are applied before industries, so it would be one "step" behind - but since when you open a colony, the economy takes 3 steps (mainly for this reason, to make sure everything is synced up/stabilized), that should still be ok.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 04, 2019, 01:54:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xbSqjXY.jpg)

It had to be done.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Serenitis on April 05, 2019, 11:53:46 AM
Neat.
You also re-did the Alkali texture, which now looks much nicer.

Also re: Textures.
I'm not a huge fan of the Dust texture, so I changed it.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/2RszHVA.png)
This is probably just one of those things where I get to be a wierd outlier.
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Quote
KNOWN ISSUE: The discoverable conditions effects won't be reflected in the colonization screen stats, but will be properly applied once the colony is established.
Also, the conditions will be applied if you save then re-load.
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.40 (2019/03/29)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 05, 2019, 03:21:45 PM
Actually you are right it isn't great... Or was since I went ahead and gave it a much needed do over:

(https://i.imgur.com/eSf204V.jpg)
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.41 (2019/04/06)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 06, 2019, 12:53:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FZ8D8Gm.jpg)

   Small update to fix a scaling issue with the Magnetic Crust effect. Also includes four new rare conditions as well as a reworked Dust World texture.

Download in the OP (http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12041.0)

Happy exploring!
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.41 (2019/04/06)
Post by: Bastion.Systems on April 12, 2019, 11:17:06 AM
Props for changing the Alkali texture, it's much nicer now!
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.41 (2019/04/06)
Post by: Hague on April 15, 2019, 11:12:35 PM
I like the idea of the psychoactive mushrooms but I think it should work the way Volturnian Lobster works, by adding a sub-good of psychoactive fungus that counts as a unit of recreational drugs with a value bonus that increases based on the distance from the nearest planet with the Fungus modifier.

Otherwise the stability penalty seems a little high, which is OK as long as the penalty goes away when you make it a Free Port which already has people wandering around doing whatever super space drugs 3000+AD can bring
Title: Re: [0.9.0a] Unknown Skies v0.41 (2019/04/06)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 11, 2019, 08:28:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FZ8D8Gml.jpg)

   Updated for 0.9.1:
-    Removed 0.9a workarounds
-    All planet types have the proper conditions generated
-    Special planets in non proc-gen system now get the proper special conditions

Download in the OP (http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12041.0)

Happy exploring!
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: MajorTheRed on May 20, 2019, 10:07:09 AM
I recently added you mod. I like the variety it add and to discover the new kind of planets.

Is it your mod which add new planetary conditions (a little bit like MoO and other 4x games):
Spoiler
Crashed terraforming drone
Lifeform which makes every one happy and less productive
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?
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 20, 2019, 10:11:51 AM
Yes it is.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: eidolad on May 20, 2019, 05:27:49 PM
This mod is really great.  I refuse to read anything about it and just play to discover what goodies are out there...
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Shad on June 11, 2019, 12:22:06 PM
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/5xzQT1x.png?1)
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1. OK, so frozen methane world, fine.
2. Wait it's "hot"? ???
3. Ah, there's non stop lightning storms, they probably keep the planet warm (and ON FIRE).



As Greg the Senior Survey Officer finished taking notes, he looked at the official printout again.

"Ah, what the heck, it will do", as he stamped it with a big seal saying "Habitable World" (under Hegemony-Tri Tachyon unified definition of "Habitable" ref. 137.7). "The rest is Marketing's problem. They could probably sell it as "scenic view" or something.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Tartiflette on June 12, 2019, 12:59:29 AM
Only if there is oxygen.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Shad on June 12, 2019, 08:38:55 AM
Only if there is oxygen.
Well, it's a "habitable world", so it should have oxygen otherwise how would "humans survive exposure unprotected" on the surface (unless Greg the survey officer "massaged" these figures a little).
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Serenitis on June 12, 2019, 09:27:02 AM
Well, it's a "habitable world", so it should have oxygen otherwise how would "humans survive exposure unprotected" on the surface (unless Greg the survey officer "massaged" these figures a little).
"Unprotected" hasn't been defined, so it may mean the atmosphere is dense enough that the pressure and temperature is fine walk around in normal-ish clothes and all you need is a source of air.

The worldgen sometimes does derp things like this though even in vanilla.
Like putting extreme cold cryo worlds in the orbit of extreme heat gas giants which are in turn in the inner orbit of a huge blue giant inside its corona etc.

Alternatively: Space magic.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Serenitis on June 15, 2019, 05:34:57 AM
There's been some things that have been bothering me about a couple of the textures, and I've finally got off my tail and done something about it.

The two textures in question are tagged as 'chlorine' and 'cyanic'.
And they have a bit of a mismatch across thier opposite edges, so you can see where the edge of the texture is.
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(https://i.imgur.com/xwa8BP7.png)(https://i.imgur.com/RPnGceB.png)
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So I've done some things that make them a little better.
They're not perfect, but close enough that it shouldn't be immediately obvious theres a join there.
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(https://i.imgur.com/J2TRiRz.png)(https://i.imgur.com/9NNHQk2.png)
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Textures:
https://i.imgur.com/Rmc7vVo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jUAuGax.jpg
Feel free to use as desired.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: ROFLtheWAFL on June 15, 2019, 04:31:45 PM
Are 'Lifeless Worlds' part of this pack?

I noticed one and the description mentioned them being perfect for colonization because there's no competing biosphere.

Then one of the hazards was "Inimical Biosphere".

https://imgur.com/a/vSnhqgT
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Serenitis on August 03, 2019, 01:31:55 AM
Are 'Lifeless Worlds' part of this pack?

I noticed one and the description mentioned them being perfect for colonization because there's no competing biosphere.

Then one of the hazards was "Inimical Biosphere".

https://imgur.com/a/vSnhqgT

Maybe it didn't always lack a biosphere. And maybe there was something left over, just waiting for a chance to go back to doing whatever it was doing before whatever happened, happened?
The procgen can add that condition to virtually any world, I think except gas giants. Yes, even barren rocks.
And "lifeless" worlds being technically habitable, get a slightly increased chance of seeing it.

I've had a fit of contrarianism again, and come up with some alternate planet textures, if anyone is interested:

NuArtificial
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(https://i.imgur.com/7FRFDGA.gif)
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Texture link
https://imgur.com/dSOGwb7

NuMagnetic
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(https://i.imgur.com/NvcYJqC.gif)
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Texture link
https://imgur.com/DXedsav
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: MesoTroniK on August 03, 2019, 01:42:36 AM
While I am not the mod author of Unknown Skies, would it be OK if I used those textures Serenitis?

If you OK that and if I also decide do this, I will credit you of course :)
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Serenitis on August 03, 2019, 11:32:07 AM
While I am not the mod author of Unknown Skies, would it be OK if I used those textures Serenitis?

If you OK that and if I also decide do this, I will credit you of course :)

Sure. If you want to get some use out of them, that's great.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Nawj on August 17, 2019, 11:34:31 PM
Really cool mod, I love the variety it adds to planets. However one thing that I've noticed is whatever way it seems to weigh the planet generation at the start of a save, it's really rare for any water worlds to spawn other than the couple confirmed ones in the core systems.
The only reason I've noticed this is I like to use Console Commands to SurveyAll at the start of a save to see if there is a water world at least relatively close to the core systems because I like to make one the heart of my empire, but nine times out of ten when making a save there isn't a single water world.

Is this due to how your mod goes through planet generation or have I just been unlucky? I noticed that even before I used this mod there were few water worlds available to colonize compared to others in most of my saves but there were at least a few every time.
Thanks.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: wtftucker on August 24, 2019, 10:41:48 AM
Great Mod first off, but I was wondering if there was a way to increase the number of planets that spawn in systems.  I was specifically looking to increase the amount of faction colonization that takes place as part of Nexerin.  I attempted to just simply modify the mix and max orbits in the star_gen csv file but any modification to any of those values seems to return the following Json error:

23691 [Thread-4] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain  - org.json.JSONException: JSONObject["id"] not found.
org.json.JSONException: JSONObject["id"] not found.
   at org.json.JSONObject.get(JSONObject.java:406)
   at org.json.JSONObject.getString(JSONObject.java:577)
   at com.fs.starfarer.loading.LoadingUtils.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.loading.LoadingUtils.new(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.loading.SpecStore.o00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.loading.SpecStore.ö00000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.loading.SpecStore.ÒO0000(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.loading.ResourceLoaderState.init(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.state.AppDriver.begin(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain.main(Unknown Source)
   at com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

and this one:

23805 [Thread-7] ERROR exerelin.campaign.submarkets.PrismMarket  - org.json.JSONException: JSONObject["id"] not found.

no other errors in the log. 

Any ideas?  Or maybe its simply not possible. 
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Morrow on August 24, 2019, 12:53:25 PM
Hi there!

So I think this mod adds the artificial worlds with the modifier "Chaotic Structures".  If so, there's a tiny, minute spelling mistake in the description of the modifier:

"On the other hand, the landscape is extremely defendable against an invader that doe not have..."

"doe" should be "does"

I really hope this doesn't come off as nitpicky.  I personally would want it pointed out to me so I figured I'd comment.   :D
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Tartiflette on August 24, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
Great Mod first off, but I was wondering if there was a way to increase the number of planets that spawn in systems.

This mod doesn't affect how planets are spawned during the sector generation, only how many types the vanilla script can pick from for a given spot. Changing the min max orbits will only increase the pool of choices, not the number of planets. To populate the systems with more planets, you will have to change the sector generation script.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: TrashMan on August 27, 2019, 04:44:52 AM
I think you messed something up with his mod.

I added it to my modlist and started a new game. First the save bloated to 142MB (compared to 24MB of playtroughs without US). Now I'm getting CG overhead errors when I try to save.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Hablmet on August 27, 2019, 05:23:18 AM
Okay, so I'm pretty sure that Unknown Skies crashes my game. I'm running it on a toaster, which pretty much explains why I have issues running this.
I've been trying to muck around a lot with the config file. This toaster of mine is a 32bit win7 install with 2GB of ram. Horrifying, I know, but it didn't have issues running most mods before that. I tried to reinstall the entire game and installed only magiclib, lazylib, version checker and console commands. Those four run without issues, but the second I enable US, it crashes and gives me a null error. Out of memory, to be exact...I'm getting a much better laptop later in September, but I'm wondering, is there any way to make it run somehow? Or better yet, what does it need to run? I really wanna have a shot at this mod since it looks great.
Cheers.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: TrashMan on August 27, 2019, 05:33:59 AM
Increasing memory allocation and reloading...so far it saves normally.
FYI, I got a mighty rig - 20GB ram, i7 procesor


EDIT:
Saving goes progressively worse the longer I play. After an hour I can no longer save.

Save&Exist and Continue seem to be the only way to make this work.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Tartiflette on August 27, 2019, 02:48:24 PM
Hablmet: sorry to hear that, this mod shouldn't increase he ram requirements by much, but it should somewhat bump up the gpu memory requirements. Given your specs I suspect that may be too much.

TrashMan: that would be a first. What is your mod list?
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: TrashMan on August 28, 2019, 06:14:41 AM
I don't think it's any of the other mods, since I played with all hose mods for a few days, getting MUCH further in. It's only when I added US that it started. (I did make some tweaks to my own mod, but these were all ship/weapon value tweaks, no scripts)

IF you want tot know, active mods are attached

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Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Morathar on August 28, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
FYI, there was a problem reported a few months back with save files bloating in size. Alex tracked it to one of the mods keeping static copies of the sector around using code like this:

private static final SectorAPI sector = Global.getSector();

Without going into all the details of static objects and their use/misuse, let's just say this code caused a bunch of extra data to get shoved into the save file that Starsector would normally not have saved. (For a more detailed explanation check https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=15635.msg252371#msg252371 (https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=15635.msg252371#msg252371))

My guess is that one of the mods you have installed is doing something similar with a static object somewhere. For what it's worth, I don't see anything like this in Unknown Skies, so you might want to do a quick check of your other installed mods (or at least the ones that include source). It's possible that one of them is causing the save bloat problem, but it just wasn't obvious until all of the extra planet types and conditions were added to the game by this mod.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Innominandum on August 30, 2019, 11:41:32 AM
I don't think it's any of the other mods, since I played with all hose mods for a few days, getting MUCH further in. It's only when I added US that it started. (I did make some tweaks to my own mod, but these were all ship/weapon value tweaks, no scripts)

IF you want tot know, active mods are attached

Whats that terraforming mod ?
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: TrashMan on August 30, 2019, 12:04:43 PM
FYI, there was a problem reported a few months back with save files bloating in size. Alex tracked it to one of the mods keeping static copies of the sector

Well, I couldn't find anything. Weird.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Sapfearon on September 13, 2019, 05:03:07 AM
I don't think it's any of the other mods, since I played with all hose mods for a few days, getting MUCH further in. It's only when I added US that it started. (I did make some tweaks to my own mod, but these were all ship/weapon value tweaks, no scripts)

IF you want tot know, active mods are attached

Whats that terraforming mod ?

Probably this one.  https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=16155.0
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Hablmet on September 14, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
Hablmet: sorry to hear that, this mod shouldn't increase he ram requirements by much, but it should somewhat bump up the gpu memory requirements. Given your specs I suspect that may be too much.
Very late response but I have a much better laptop now. can't wait to try it out.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Pokpaul on September 27, 2019, 04:28:31 PM
Say, I can't seem to get the bonus from the pre-collapse military base on a colony I built.

I built orbital foundries there and moved one of my pristine nanoforges to it, still no love. The tooltip pop-up still refers to my original foundry and pristine for the bonuses, nothing about the newer colony with the base, foundry and nanoforge.

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Yunru on October 08, 2019, 10:13:34 AM
Say, I can't seem to get the bonus from the pre-collapse military base on a colony I built.

I built orbital foundries there and moved one of my pristine nanoforges to it, still no love. The tooltip pop-up still refers to my original foundry and pristine for the bonuses, nothing about the newer colony with the base, foundry and nanoforge.

Am I missing something?
Production is based on which of your planet has the highest output, not highest quality.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Mr_Duck on November 11, 2019, 08:08:48 AM
when i download it i get a weird file also, the louncher doesnt see the mod pls help
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Damienov on November 11, 2019, 06:12:03 PM
when i download it i get a weird file also, the louncher doesnt see the mod pls help

what weird file? the .7z?

its a 7zip compressed file. 7Zip is an open source compression utility. you can download it here (http://www.7-zip.org/)
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: mora on January 19, 2020, 03:16:19 PM
I want a version without the added backgrounds.

EDIT:Nevermind, now I have infinite power through an IDE and have taken matters into my own hands and deleted the part where additional backgrounds are loaded.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Kh0rnet on March 13, 2020, 06:38:17 PM
Love the idea, love the mod, love the implementation, but I HATE the descriptions of planets and planetary conditions which are riddled with grammatical, punctuation and style errors.

If you'd be as kind as to provide me with the raw text files I could do some proofreading/editing of the text to make it more palatable and fitting to the Sci-Fi literature style of Starsector. No offense intended: the descriptions are definitely written as to match the core game's style but... they are flawed.
All text would be up to your approval as the mod's author, naturally. Since the mod is not too text-heavy in the first place, it wouldn't take me long and this kind of work is something I have professional experience with.

I was only able to find the text for market conditions in the mod's aptly named 'market.conditions.csv' file - I don't know where the planet descriptions are and if editing anything in these files is safe at all.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: mora on March 15, 2020, 05:22:52 AM
Planet descriptions are stored in the descriptions.csv under UnknownSkies\data\strings. It is mostly safe to edit.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Kh0rnet on March 16, 2020, 08:58:55 AM
Planet descriptions are stored in the descriptions.csv under UnknownSkies\data\strings. It is mostly safe to edit.

Thanks. I will rewrite them myself for personal use. I don't want to share/upload anything without the mod author's approval, though.

Again, I mean no offense, but sentences like this are making me wonder if I'm having a stroke:
"In fact the relief expose the influence of the magnetic field on the weather and iron rich water precipitations."
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Jackundor on March 21, 2020, 12:00:28 PM
is there a list of the conditions this mod adds and what they do?
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Mondaymonkey on March 27, 2020, 04:22:40 AM
Description said, that methane world is a "frozen world of liquid methane". But this one seems to be "hot".

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(https://i.imgur.com/bDBnAXt.png)
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Orbiting red dwarf on a distance of a 1.2 units. Seems like a bug.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Üstad on April 01, 2020, 04:43:10 PM
Can we get detailed list of features, such as what type of worlds does the mod adds etc?
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Mondaymonkey on April 05, 2020, 10:42:09 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/62tEU3R.png)
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Barren world with inimical biosphere.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 06, 2020, 12:18:00 AM
I do not change the way the planet conditions are attributed, that's a vanilla issue.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: NikoTheGuyDude on May 23, 2020, 12:45:52 PM
Hey, so while I was walking around outside I thought up an idea for a planetary type along with a planetary condition that you might be interested in!

1. Fractured planet: A barren/something planet that has just been cracked into multiple pieces. Description: "This planet has been ruptured to the core, and into multiple pieces, by some unknown event with extremely high energy in the recent past, judging from the fact it can still be somewhat considered a planet. The complete fragmentation of the planet causes massive tectonic activity and instability, along with massive drift of the various fragments of the planet, meaning any settlement, at best, can only be considered very temporary, and at worst, is impossible to create on this hellscape. However, due to the fact that the very core of the planet is exposed, massive deposits of ores (that would otherwise be buried under massive amounts of rock) are visible and extractable. It is also possible that, due to the very exotic nature of the planet, many scientists and tourists would be drawn to the planet to study, observe, and experience the insanity of the terrain. It is unknown for how long it will take for the crust and mantle to drift away, even with the (waning) gravitational force of the core." Can only appear in systems with black holes, sigma worlds (from DME), neutron stars, or any result of a nova/whatever.

Planet is guaranteed to have ultra rich ore and ultra rich rare ore deposits, and maybe some volatiles. Guaranteed to have extreme tectonic activity, thin/no atmosphere, etc.

Market condition (Fragmented): "This planet has been cracked into multiple pieces, causing massive tectonic activity and instability. Due to the massively unstable nature of the planet itself, extreme precautions must be made to prevent the very ground under any colonies from cracking and drifting away from one another. However, the fragmentation reveals massive ore deposits sufficient for extraction, and provides an excellent source of scientific research and experiments, as well as a site for thrill-seekers to enjoy, and perhaps die on." +50% hazard rating, +(some number)% population growth, maybe some bonus to the income from population and infrastructure?

2. Market condition (Pre-collapse defense satellites)/(Derelict defense satellites), revealed on preliminary survey: :Innumerable small defense satellites, appearing to originate from the pre-collapse era, orbit this planet. Armed with multiple long-ranged point-defense weapons and missiles and long-ranged anti-ship weaponry, these satellites are able to protect the planet not only from bombardment, but from invasion as well. They are calibrated to only fire apon ships that match a whitelisted batch of ships and signals, however it appears the calibration systems are outdated and damaged from the ever-steady cosmic radiation and micro-meteorite impacts, meaning incoming ships must take extra precautions to prevent being fired apon, and calibration officers are necessary to manually designate the target status of certain ships.

The satellites are placed in an orbit parallel to the standard orbit of a modern space station, meaning it is possible to calibrate the satellites in such a way that they will provide defensive reinforcement for the station, and any ships around it." Quite rare. Will cause the planet to appear to have vast ruins in orbit.

Effects: +(some number or percent) defense rating, -10% accessibility (or whatever number is good), stations now have a number of derelict satellites with no (or weak) thrusters, an inefficient omni-shield, a very long-ranged ballistic HE/kinetic/fragmentation cannon, 2 very long-ranged ballistic PD rifles, and 1-2 long-ranged PD missle silos. They spawn more at the bottom side of the map, at the left and right, so they can actually shoot at any enemies. They have moderately heavy armor and hull.

I haven't entirely thought them out, but if you're interested, feel free to flesh them out!
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Barracuda on July 11, 2020, 04:06:33 AM
There seems to be a conflict between this mod and the HD Texture pack by CandyFlavour in the Modding Board. From what I can understand the background starscape images are conflicting between the two mods. 
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: MesoTroniK on July 11, 2020, 11:20:18 PM
Well also consider that those HD texture packs bloat vram usage massively for no practical visual benefit... And also have a soft-game breaking mechanical change with how they make asteroids physically larger.

Even thinking about compatibility between the mods is a waste of time and energy.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Barracuda on July 12, 2020, 04:02:17 AM
Got it thanks for looking into it atleast
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: saya39 on July 26, 2020, 09:14:49 PM
Hi! Your mod is fantastic and makes my exploration eventful. May I translate it into Chinese and post it on The Fossic which is a Chinese Forum of Starsector? Waiting for your reply, thanks!

And here is the link: https://www.fossic.org/ (https://www.fossic.org/)
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Tartiflette on July 26, 2020, 11:22:36 PM
Sure no problem!
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: saya39 on July 26, 2020, 11:54:04 PM
Sure no problem!

Thanks for the permission! I'll put the address here later too.

edit: And here we are https://www.fossic.org/thread-1700-1-1.html (https://www.fossic.org/thread-1700-1-1.html)
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: Neitronus on September 23, 2020, 08:55:50 AM
This is a friendly remainder about issue of version file not being availble on bitbucket. Sorry for the spam.
Title: Re: [0.9.1a] Unknown Skies v0.42 (2019/05/11)
Post by: battleturkies on November 21, 2020, 09:31:38 PM
Coming by with support for the mod :)
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on March 27, 2021, 04:09:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FZ8D8Gml.jpg)
Download (https://www.patreon.com/posts/49266173)

Quick compatibility update for Starsector 0.95a.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: bluevulture on April 03, 2021, 03:32:05 AM
Don't know if this is going to get changed once version checker gets updated, but right now it says that the version JSON is malformed:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/66pr1Vs.png)
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Don't know what exactly it doesn't like.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Flacman3000 on April 07, 2021, 09:55:14 PM
Hey man love the mod any idea why i keep seeing planets with hot and mild climate together it doesnt make any sense? any way to fix this on a new seed or game? Playing on 9.1.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 07, 2021, 11:47:19 PM
That would be a vanilla issue?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Flacman3000 on April 08, 2021, 01:07:42 AM
That would be a vanilla issue?

I really do apologize but is the issue I'm having common in the vanilla starsector?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 08, 2021, 02:01:29 AM
What I meant is that I do not set the conditions on the planets, that's something the game does automatically.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 15, 2021, 05:54:43 PM
hello im trying to create my own custom system and i dont know what code to add so my mod can use your mods planet conditions/planets
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Histidine on April 15, 2021, 07:40:12 PM
You shouldn't need any particular code to use Unknown Skies planets/conditions, planet types and conditions are specified by ID when generating a system.

Well, except that you might want to check for Unknown Skies and use different planets/conditions if it's absent (unless you want to make your mod specifically depend on this one).
Code: java
if (Global.getSettings().getModManager().isModEnabled("US")) {
  /* do stuff */
}
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 15, 2021, 08:30:47 PM
i was talking about the import lines at the top just adding in the condition in the code didnt seem to work
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 15, 2021, 08:35:52 PM
so when i try to add   stream_market.addCondition(Conditions.US_FLOATING);   to the gas giant in the system i get

Fatal:Error loading [data.scripts.ColonyStarPlugin]
Cause: Parsing compilation unit *data.scripts.ColonyStarPlugin*
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 15, 2021, 11:20:53 PM
Does your script work without importing US conditions?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 15, 2021, 11:43:10 PM
yup any vanilla change to the system im able to do and have got down (dont know how to do asteroid fields and belts yet lmao) be it planet type condition location ect
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Histidine on April 16, 2021, 03:03:41 AM
Pretty sure there's no constant Conditions.US_FLOATING, you need to enter the string literal ("US_floating")
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 16, 2021, 10:25:01 AM
so    stream_market.addCondition("us_floating");  is still not working
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 16, 2021, 11:05:54 AM
so i can only assume it has something to do with not having the line to import data from your mod into the custom system mod

so there are lines like this at the top of the file
import com.fs.starfarer.api.impl.campaign.ids.Conditions;

and i think i need lines for your mod and other mods i want to use conditions/planets from
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 16, 2021, 10:41:23 PM
Wait, you aren't using an IDE? That would have solved that issue in the first second.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: N3V3R on April 17, 2021, 01:54:38 AM
uhh what is an IDE? lmao this is the first time I've ever tried coding/ modding anything and its just a custom system for myself
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 17, 2021, 01:57:27 AM
It is a program that helps with coding and compiling, it pretty much does half the work for you and will catch errors without requiring to launch the game and find out. There are guides floating around for Eclipse, Netbeans and InteliJ.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Malignity. on April 18, 2021, 07:49:25 AM
can we get like a list with changes/content of this mod? would be nice to know what colony mods this mod actually adds; pretty please?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Harmful Mechanic on April 18, 2021, 01:19:59 PM
Yeah, Unknown Skies has been adding a bunch of stuff it barely explains for a while now; it really ought to be in the OP.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 18, 2021, 01:38:36 PM
It's a mod about making exploration more interesting, I think revealing everything from the get-go would be counter-productive. You don't reveal the plot of quest mod in the OP do you?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Harmful Mechanic on April 18, 2021, 02:03:12 PM
That's what spoiler tags are for. But avoiding confusion with other mods and vanilla is very much a good idea, and to do that, you need to at least make the information available. People can decide to look, or not, as they like; but it's simply good manners to explain what your mod does.

Otherwise, you're making more work for Alex and for the rest of us; we have to tell people it's not us, all of us, when you could just explain that a given condition is yours, right in the mod thread, like a good citizen of the community would.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Malignity. on April 19, 2021, 01:32:21 PM
i very much agree with mechanic
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Cat in the Hat on April 23, 2021, 03:38:10 AM
Just as a head's up (and not sure this is even important) but 0.95a is reporting the current version as borked:

(https://i.imgur.com/aL27AUs.png)


Could be just the update tracker, it appears to still be working (? not sure how to check that ?); the other mod ("A new level of confidence") is working fine so I presume this one is as well.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Bastion.Systems on April 23, 2021, 07:18:52 AM
The US_clouds_textureHeavy.png and US_clouds_textureGiant.png have very noticeable polar distortions that can be easily improved.

Here are my tweaked textures:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1gKWEjqHzt6Vnxv1OyiSuhsCgkxwfZyic

I used the Photoshop polar coordinates tool and then smashed both of the textures with some stamp tool.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: orost on April 30, 2021, 01:48:12 AM
How much accessibility is Old Space Accelerator supposed to give to large colonies?

The description implies it's not very effective at larger sizes, but the effect only goes down by 1% per size (still gives +47% at size 6), which doesn't seem right...
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on April 30, 2021, 03:29:32 AM
That's weird, it should be -10% per size above 3
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: orost on April 30, 2021, 03:35:22 AM
I also have Industrial Evolution and Terraforming and Station Construction on, maybe something's interfering.

I wanted to include a screenshot, but I'm giving up after four different methods didn't work. (Why is it so hard to screenshot this game in particular?) So I'll just say that I have two planets with an accelerator, a size 6 which gets +47% accessibility from it and a size 5 which gets +48%.

edit: never mind, I remembered there is a built-in screenshot function.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/Lu6lmmE.jpg)
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Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Teyren on April 30, 2021, 09:02:08 AM
Are all Methane Worlds meant to have the Habitable tag, or is that another mod causing it?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Jade Tendency on May 04, 2021, 02:21:52 PM
What are the conditions for spawning a base, I have literally never seen one and I've fully explored a lot of sectors by now.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: FreonRu on May 05, 2021, 02:13:21 AM
Good day. Sorry for using google translate.

Is there any way to transfer special planetary conditions to other planets? For example, a floating continent, a pre-collapse military base, an orbital elevator, an ancient religious sign (by the way, why does it not give immunity from a luddic path cell? Or can interstellar jihadists attack the "holy" land?), Etc. these are buildings and theoretically, by spending resources and funds, it is possible to transfer them to other planets. The special planetary conditions that act on the planet are completely clear what cannot be transferred.

These buildings (special planetary conditions) greatly diversify the game, but it is far from always possible to use them because the randomizer sometimes assigns these buildings to planets far from the center of the map, where it is completely illogical to found a colony.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 05, 2021, 02:34:07 AM
That falls WAY out of scope for this mod, and would be quite complex to put in place. Some of the rarest conditions will be changed at some point to be unique planets instead anyway.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: FreonRu on May 05, 2021, 03:08:57 AM
That falls WAY out of scope for this mod, and would be quite complex to put in place. Some of the rarest conditions will be changed at some point to be unique planets instead anyway.

Thank you. I will continue to look for suitable planetary conditions in the randomized sectors.

But please, think about the implementation of this idea - I think this idea was visited not only by me, but also by many others. The idea will add a "mini-game" to hunt for such special planetary conditions and place them in their colonies. Currently, I am somewhat upset when I see the planetary buildings I need for myself far from the center of the map and I understand that it (the planetary building) will remain forgotten by everyone on the edge of the map.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: kirbness on May 06, 2021, 10:20:37 AM
Unknown Skies (v0.4.3, malformed JSON in remote version file at URL "https://www.dropbox.com/s/ja471334y5a37cxl/U-S.versoin?dl=0)
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Malignity. on May 11, 2021, 02:51:23 PM
so are we not getting a change list/readme where every planet modifier this mod adds is listed? gay
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Thaago on May 11, 2021, 05:09:34 PM
 @Malignity, please both respect others more and don't use homophobic language. This is a warning.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Cirevam on May 11, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I tend to look through mod files myself to see what stuff is added. UnknownSkies\data\campaign\market_conditions.csv contains the human-readable names for the various conditions that this mod adds. I've added them here behind a spoiler. Other CSV files contain the new planet types.

Spoiler
Magnetic Crust
Chaotic Structures
Perpetual Dust Storm
Military Virus
Ancient Religious Landmark
Pre-Collapse Military Base
Floating Continent
Crashed Terraforming Drone
Old Space Accelerator
Psychoactive Fungus
Underground Network
Parasitic Spores
Accessible Sub-Ice Bedrock
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I like this mod since it adds some much needed variety. It makes bounties considerably less annoying since "the target is near a burnt world in a system with a giant star in the Chungus constellation" narrows it down more than the old "the target is near a barren world in a system with giant star..." when the system in question has five barren worlds.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Malignity. on May 12, 2021, 01:07:46 PM
very nice @cirevam , thanks for posting it
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: GreeM on May 15, 2021, 08:41:18 AM
So i found a system i wanna colonize, problem is i play with unknown skies and the backdrop is so extremely bright and annoying on the eyes that i cant see myself stay in this system. Can i change the backdrop somehow?

I cant remove the mod midplay, so hopefully there is somewhat of just disabling the backdrops from this mod.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Jade Tendency on May 16, 2021, 02:17:52 PM
Good day. Sorry for using google translate.

Is there any way to transfer special planetary conditions to other planets? For example, a floating continent, a pre-collapse military base, an orbital elevator, an ancient religious sign (by the way, why does it not give immunity from a luddic path cell? Or can interstellar jihadists attack the "holy" land?), Etc. these are buildings and theoretically, by spending resources and funds, it is possible to transfer them to other planets. The special planetary conditions that act on the planet are completely clear what cannot be transferred.

These buildings (special planetary conditions) greatly diversify the game, but it is far from always possible to use them because the randomizer sometimes assigns these buildings to planets far from the center of the map, where it is completely illogical to found a colony.

You can add or remove the conditions with console commands.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Flacman3000 on May 19, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
Hey Tart I've never heard any of the sounds in the mod files what are they for they sound interesting.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: IonDragonX on May 19, 2021, 02:46:24 PM
Hey Tart I've never heard any of the sounds in the mod files what are they for they sound interesting.
I apologize for making a joke that no one is ever going to get. Nevermind.
Spoiler
Crimson clupeidae?
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Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Flacman3000 on May 19, 2021, 07:02:58 PM
Hey Tart I've never heard any of the sounds in the mod files what are they for they sound interesting.
Crimson clupeidae?

I'm not too sure what you are saying my friend :(, I play with random core worlds if that helps.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Flacman3000 on May 19, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
Also Tart I was experimenting and teaching myself with this mod to make a new one similar to this one, and when I replaced most of the planet textures some changed in my game and some others remained the same! even though I deleted the image file from the mod folder! how is that even possible? In particular the Burnt, Azure and Auric world continue to look like the original texture instead of my replaced one is there a backup directory for some planet textures or is the texture just so well integrated somewhere? I'm so confused about how a texture that I clearly deleted is still appearing, do some textures save to the game save file?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on May 19, 2021, 11:43:14 PM
The planet textures in this mod are sometimes shared with other mods that use the same file path to avoid needless bloat. Your textures were probably overwritten by such mod.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Flacman3000 on May 20, 2021, 12:39:33 AM
Ah that explains it so ill change the file path for now! Thanks for that clarification your a godsend now hopefully i can find some time to learn more and release a full-fledged mod soon.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Damienov on July 12, 2021, 07:34:33 AM
any plans to update the malformed JSON for this mod for version checker?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on July 12, 2021, 11:44:30 PM
One day... I have some significant changes for the next update that currently are half implemented and would need to be wrapped up before.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Kiddin Me on July 21, 2021, 05:52:12 PM
It might've already been noted, but I don't believe that the Terraforming Drone really degrades anymore, due to the change in colony size caps.

No idea if this is getting revisited, but I wanted to make note of it.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: slowpersun on July 22, 2021, 05:44:23 PM
One day... I have some significant changes for the next update that currently are half implemented and would need to be wrapped up before.

Sci Nation mod has custom backgrounds for missions that look like in low orbit of a planet.  Any way same idea could be added here?  Would make fighting over Volturn or Cruor more interesting... although animations on the planet prolly too much to ask for.

I should clarify I don't mean re-use same background skin, just new ones.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on July 22, 2021, 09:58:41 PM
Two issues:
First would be to create expectations that every fight close to a planet should have such background, so that's a lot of them to make for each type of planets.
Second (and more importantly) those backgrounds are fine in missions, but they effectively make the combat more difficult by lowering the readability of the battle. Small stuff like missiles get lost in the noise. That's the same reason the revamped backgrounds I'm working on will be much darker overall.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Helldiver on July 27, 2021, 07:41:03 AM
One day... I have some significant changes for the next update that currently are half implemented and would need to be wrapped up before.

Ooh, are these changes to existing content or does that include new content/features?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Drmzsz7 on July 29, 2021, 09:59:35 AM
Hi just wondering if this is compatible with nexerelin?
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: DownTheDrain on July 29, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Hi just wondering if this is compatible with nexerelin?

Never had any issues and I use both on every playthrough.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: SpaceDrake on July 31, 2021, 09:11:19 PM
Hi just wondering if this is compatible with nexerelin?

In some ways it's intended for Nex use. It gives your fledgling faction more potentially interesting bits to grow on and some neat defensive considerations for picking a home.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on August 01, 2021, 01:06:48 AM
Yeah, Nexerelin was a big consideration when implementing some part of this mod.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: slowpersun on August 01, 2021, 10:15:15 PM
Two issues:
First would be to create expectations that every fight close to a planet should have such background, so that's a lot of them to make for each type of planets.
Second (and more importantly) those backgrounds are fine in missions, but they effectively make the combat more difficult by lowering the readability of the battle. Small stuff like missiles get lost in the noise. That's the same reason the revamped backgrounds I'm working on will be much darker overall.

Well I guess it wouldn't always be every planet doing low orbit (ie, random whether low orbit or not), but yes, may lead to unrealistic/unpredictable expectations.  But having to do it for every planet type would be tedious as hell, especially since this mod adds extra planet types.

As for the second point, I can also see why that would be an issue.  Still, I had figured the rule of cool might trump background visual loss, but I have rage quit as much as the next person, so understandable from a purely gameplay/design perspective.  Plus, I guess if I really cared, I could always just kludge together a sub-mod.

Curious to see those revamped backgrounds though!
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on August 03, 2021, 03:14:58 AM
I intent to use special backgrounds, including "low orbit" ones for special battles in Seeker, one day... Hopefully...
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: JAL28 on August 12, 2021, 07:32:13 PM
Suggestions for some worlds:

Archipelago Worlds

These are basically “it looks like a water world but actually functions like a non-water world” which isn’t that unique. Instead, I propose that Archipelago Worlds have a special modifier that allows the to build both Aquaculture and Farming industries on the same planet, BUT reduce exports from Farming(not aquaculture) by 1, as well as make it require more upkeep.

Lifeless Worlds

Despite the description claiming that “they are good candidates for colonization” this is never explicitly represented in game. Perhaps a special modifier for that that reduces hazard rating?

Methane Worlds

Garunteed Organics, since methane is a hydrocarbon and “organics” ingame seem to refer to petroleum which is itself a mixture of hydrocarbons. Kinda like Volcanic Worlds but for organics instead of ores.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: SpaceDrake on August 12, 2021, 08:17:37 PM
I have also noticed that despite the description of being cold, most Methanes actually have the "hot" modifier.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: MrMagolor on September 10, 2021, 03:15:10 PM
I think there's a bug where the game doesn't take Ancient Military Ruins into account when deciding which colony to use for highest ship quality.

Then again it still chooses one with a corrupted nanoforge over a pristine in this case, so it probably isn't that, actually.

EDIT: I think it's that it chooses whichever has the highest number of ship hulls available.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: geminitiger on September 16, 2021, 01:29:34 AM
Ancient military ruins? Is that another mod conflict?

I'm really curious if this mod works with industrial revolution, that also has quiet a bit of planetary funkery going on so..
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Soul_liu on September 29, 2021, 06:16:20 AM
Bug report:
The Parasitic Spore decreases the ship quality by 25% but it is not described in the condition description.
And when I remove it, the ship quality is still decreased.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Farya on September 29, 2021, 07:07:30 AM
Ancient military ruins? Is that another mod conflict?

I'm really curious if this mod works with industrial revolution, that also has quiet a bit of planetary funkery going on so..
It works with IndEvo just fine. Roider Union also takes US into account, so you could actually benefit from Roider Dives/HQ on your planet with fungus for zero drug demand.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Gabloc on November 12, 2021, 06:58:49 PM
Very beautiful mod overall, but I find the texture BarrenF kind of weird --- it's very blue, blue-er than that of the azure world. In game, Barren-F worlds appear some what like translucent water worlds. Do you mind having a look?
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/xEGlAoo.png)
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Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on November 13, 2021, 01:12:41 AM
The whole mod is getting a significant overhaul that sadly has been stalled due to more pressing matters.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: IonDragonX on November 13, 2021, 08:00:15 AM
The whole mod is getting a significant overhaul that sadly has been stalled due to more pressing matters.
Wish you well, Tartiflette. I do hope your health is not in danger.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Tartiflette on November 13, 2021, 10:22:11 AM
Oh it's nothing of the sort! I just had other modding priorities that have been eating my free time.
Title: Re: [0.95a] Unknown Skies v0.43 (2021/03/27)
Post by: Uff-East on November 24, 2021, 10:30:24 PM
Nice mod, thanks  :)