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Jonlissla

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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #555 on: December 06, 2015, 11:42:05 PM »

How much of this is actually intended?

I'm curious about this as well. I know that prices were increased, but I don't know what the minimum is. Would save a lot of restarting.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #556 on: December 07, 2015, 12:02:57 AM »

Not really a bug , but starting several games with 0.7/0.7.1 (and it's RCs) + Nexelerin and faction mod updates, I've encountered very different price ranges for most basic commodities.

Supplies 100..450 (about 400 of course makes even basic sustenance quite difficult)
Fuel 50..200 (expensive fuel makes following bounties wherever they are generated not such an automatic decision)
Marines 500..2500 (2500 makes ship capture unviable, also big impediment to planet capture)

Which created very different experiences overall. How much of this is actually intended?
The way the economy works its impossible to have a random sector with stable prices. Heck it's even mostly impossible with mods that have hand-made systems because you don't know which ones are active or not. So yeah, it work as best as possible short of removing the economy or rewriting it from scratch. Just check the prices on a new game and restart if they are too high on launch, more often than not you'll get 100-150 prices.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #557 on: December 07, 2015, 03:16:16 AM »

Supply base cost is 100, fuel base cost is 50. Nexerelin tries to have prices be slightly under to slightly over base price.
200 credit supplies and 100 credit fuel is considered somewhat broken.
300 credit supplies and 150 credit fuel is considered catastrophically broken (and if I see something like it during testing, I make revisions immediately).

Marines have a base cost of 500 but there's never enough of them to go around; ~750 is more typical. Still, >= 1000 credit cost is something wrong.

(all base prices are unchanged from vanilla)

If you see such things, a couple of bits of information could help me try to fix it:
  • Starting options: how many systems/planets/stations?
  • How much do organics, volatiles, [rare] metals and heavy machinery cost?
  • Open starsector.log and Ctrl+F for "balancing". This gives a bunch of lines reporting how it tried to add/remove market conditions to bring supply and demand in line with each other. Posting this could help; if the balancer is failing, or if the economy is out of whack despite that, I might be able to come up with something. (Probably.)
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 03:52:32 AM by Histidine »
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #558 on: December 07, 2015, 05:59:20 AM »

I've noticed I have the same issue when using SS+ and a lot of faction mods. Guess it's all because of the way the economy works.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #559 on: December 07, 2015, 08:55:01 AM »

@Histidine

My last game had mostly low prices, except marines.
Start conditions: 8 stars, 1 uninhabited star, max 6 planets, max 4 stations, +prism freeport, +starfarer mode
Prices (I'll just post from single world (size 7 tri tach), they are close to average, buy prices pre-tariff):
   Supplies: 54
   Fuel: 77
   Organics: 16
   Volatiles: 16
   Metals: 37
   Rare Metals: 120
   Heavy Machinery: 65
   Marines: 2397 <<   
Balancing log fragment (nothing about Marines):
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2245870 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Shaper (Tri-Tachyon)
2245870 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organics_complex
2245870 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Thessia (pirates)
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245871 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Patiota (Citadel)
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Camanis I (independent)
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
2245872 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zaphod (Luddic Church)
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organics_complex
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: aquaculture
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245873 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Baleyworld (Diable Avionics)
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sola (Shadowyards)
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organics_complex
2245874 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Caparelli I (Hegemony)
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: aquaculture
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
2245875 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zaphod I (Sindrian Diktat)
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: urbanized_polity
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245876 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Heaven (Knights Templar)
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245877 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sword (Imperium)
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Patiota II (Shadowyards)
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245878 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Yiril I (independent)
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Mint (Knights Templar)
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: rural_polity
2245879 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Azerty I (Diable Avionics)
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
2245880 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sabin (Sindrian Diktat)
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: shipbreaking_center
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Chitose (Luddic Church)
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245881 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Watson (Tri-Tachyon)
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245882 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Grey (pirates)
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Aurora (Hegemony)
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Tywin (Citadel)
2245883 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Chitose I (Imperium)
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Squall (Sindrian Diktat)
2245884 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Esuna (Diable Avionics)
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245885 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for El Facil (Tri-Tachyon)
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Mayhew I Customs (pirates)
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245886 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Azerty II Wall (Imperium)
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Yiril Station (Shadowyards)
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245887 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Laret Customs (independent)
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Azerty Command (Knights Templar)
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245888 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Caxort Wall (Luddic Church)
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Mint I Backwater (Citadel)
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
2245889 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sola II Quey (Hegemony)
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Exerelin Shipyard (Tri-Tachyon)
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245890 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Jira Terminal (pirates)
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zanzibar B Exchange (Shadowyards)
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Rantemario View (Hegemony)
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245891 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Camanis II Mantle (Imperium)
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Darwin Wall (Diable Avionics)
2245892 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Feynman I Nest (Knights Templar)
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245893 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Raestal Backwater (independent)
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Patiota I Port (Citadel)
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
2245894 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Raqueler Trading Post (Luddic Church)
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zanzibar Ledge (Sindrian Diktat)
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sagan Exchange (pirates)
2245895 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ms_medCenter
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Gau Dock (Hegemony)
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
2245896 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance domestic goods supply/demand: 976970 / 1712810
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Tywin (size 5)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Exerelin Shipyard (size 5)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Sabin (size 6)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Sword (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Watson (size 6)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Patiota (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Rantemario View (size 5)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Zaphod I (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Zaphod (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Sola (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Esuna (size 6)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Baleyworld (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Raqueler Trading Post (size 5)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Gau Dock (size 5)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Caparelli I (size 7)
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final domestic goods supply/demand: 1556470 / 1712810
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance supplies supply/demand: 101500 / 256491
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance metal supply/demand: 206200 / 87000
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance weapons supply/demand: 58000 / 1916889
2245897 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Aurora
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Yiril I
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Azerty II Wall
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Patiota
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Darwin Wall
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Caxort Wall
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Exerelin Shipyard
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Tywin
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Esuna
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Sabin
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Watson
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Patiota I Port
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Rantemario View
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Patiota II
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Zaphod I
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Caparelli I
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Sola
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Gau Dock
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to El Facil
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing shipbreaking center to Squall
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Zaphod
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final supplies supply/demand: 339500 / 256491
2245898 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final metal supply/demand: 381200 / 367000
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final weapons supply/demand: 618000 / 1916889
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance food supply/demand: 9917580 / 9711100
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Hydroponics Lab from Patiota (size 7)
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Hydroponics Lab from Camanis I (size 3)
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Hydroponics Lab from Zaphod (size 7)
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final food supply/demand: 9467550 / 9711100
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance fuel supply/demand: 60000 / 75304
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Antimatter Fuel Production to Sabin
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final fuel supply/demand: 80000 / 75304
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance organics supply/demand: 3241796 / 4887936
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Organics Complex to Camanis II Mantle
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Organics Complex to Azerty I
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Organics Complex to Mint
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Organics Complex to Rantemario View
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Organics Complex to Sola
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final organics supply/demand: 5741796 / 4887936
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance volatiles supply/demand: 3425000 / 3855978
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Volatiles Complex to Chitose I
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Volatiles Complex to Mint I Backwater
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final volatiles supply/demand: 4425000 / 3855978
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance metal supply/demand: 381200 / 367000
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Thessia
2245899 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Jira Terminal
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Camanis I
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Tywin
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Watson
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Exerelin Shipyard
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Patiota II
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Refining Complex to Sola II Quey
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final metal supply/demand: 461200 / 367000
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance ore supply/demand: 220000 / 376000
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Gau Dock
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Esuna
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Darwin Wall
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Patiota I Port
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Azerty II Wall
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Mayhew I Customs
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Zanzibar Ledge
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Camanis I
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Laret Customs
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Azerty I
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Raqueler Trading Post
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Aurora
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Caxort Wall
2245900 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final ore supply/demand: 480000 / 376000
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Previous game had about 400 supply prices. Found no log fragment that seemed relevant (past log rollover?).
Start conditions: all default + prism freeport.
Prices (also size 7 Tri-Tach):
   Supplies: 382 <<
   Fuel: 70
   Organics: 39
   Volatiles: 32
   Metals: 21
   Rare Metals: 91
   Heavy Machinery: 441
   Marines: 675
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #560 on: December 07, 2015, 10:15:02 AM »

I started a game two more times and I always find these terribly unbalanced fleets:
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5x lvl 20 (!) officers in a regular fleet. And these are just ones that are currently on screen, come on! There is something wrong with officer spawn stuff. Did not experience that in Vanilla, so that is probably a bug in Nexerelin code.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #561 on: December 07, 2015, 11:01:14 AM »

My standing with my faction (Tiandong) decreased because I was apparently hostile to "the Bounty Hunters" and "the Wanted". The only things I'd fought so far were some Dark Spire.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #562 on: December 07, 2015, 11:36:00 AM »

Is it intentional that Knights Templar have -60 faction relationship with all others (at best) when using the random option at game start?
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #563 on: December 07, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »

If you see such things, a couple of bits of information could help me try to fix it:
  • Starting options: how many systems/planets/stations?
  • How much do organics, volatiles, [rare] metals and heavy machinery cost?
  • Open starsector.log and Ctrl+F for "balancing". This gives a bunch of lines reporting how it tried to add/remove market conditions to bring supply and demand in line with each other. Posting this could help; if the balancer is failing, or if the economy is out of whack despite that, I might be able to come up with something. (Probably.)
So I've been trying to get a good start for a bit now (~7 tries) and the game keeps stumbling over the same price hurdles.

Options: I've tried a variety from 6-10 systems, 3-5 stations, usually left planets at 5. (latest attempt was 8 systems +2 uninhabited, 3 stations 5 planets if im not mistaken)

On average this results in >5 markets per system.

I tried reducing the number of starting factions to 75% as I have a total of 10 including mods (not counting pirates & Indie)

Prices for starting planet/system are consistently high for:

Supplies (ranging from 250 with 140 shown as lowered price on intel tab)
Drugs and Organs (around 900-1200 average for both, oddly)
Marines (always >1700)

Sometimes too high for:
Rare Metals (up to 400, usually high 200 range)
Metals (minor, only about 40-50 usually)
Weapons (up to 400, average mid 200 range)


Usually low for machinery (its not rare seeing ~70 on avg, was fine on the latest attempt, log below)
Volatiles (intel shows sector wide reduced to ~10 avg)

Here the latest log filtered by "ExerelinMarketSetup"

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   Line 231847: 537381 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORGANICS
   Line 231851: 537381 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231853: 537382 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORE
   Line 231855: 537382 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype HEAVY_INDUSTRY
   Line 231866: 537383 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype AGRICULTURE
   Line 231869: 537384 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype VOLATILES
   Line 231871: 537384 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORGANICS
   Line 231879: 537386 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype HEAVY_INDUSTRY
   Line 231882: 537386 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORGANICS
   Line 231883: 537386 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231895: 537400 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231898: 537400 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype AGRICULTURE
   Line 231908: 537401 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231914: 537402 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype AGRICULTURE
   Line 231926: 537411 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype AGRICULTURE
   Line 231927: 537411 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype HEAVY_INDUSTRY
   Line 231931: 537411 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231938: 537421 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype VOLATILES
   Line 231939: 537421 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORGANICS
   Line 231941: 537422 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORE
   Line 231944: 537422 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype HEAVY_INDUSTRY
   Line 231946: 537422 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORE
   Line 231949: 537422 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231959: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype VOLATILES
   Line 231960: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype AGRICULTURE
   Line 231962: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype VOLATILES
   Line 231965: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORE
   Line 231967: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype HEAVY_INDUSTRY
   Line 231968: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype MANUFACTURING
   Line 231971: 537432 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype ORGANICS
   Line 231974: 537433 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Getting planet for archetype AGRICULTURE
   Line 232003: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Green (Belfir)
   Line 232004: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232005: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organics_complex
   Line 232006: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232007: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232008: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232009: 537445 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232010: 537446 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zaril (pirates)
   Line 232011: 537446 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232012: 537447 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232013: 537447 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232014: 537447 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232015: 537447 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232016: 537448 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Milfeulle (Citadel)
   Line 232017: 537448 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232018: 537448 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: autofac_heavy_industry
   Line 232019: 537448 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: autofac_heavy_industry
   Line 232020: 537448 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232021: 537448 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232022: 537449 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Kuromie II (Diable Avionics)
   Line 232023: 537449 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232024: 537449 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232025: 537449 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
   Line 232026: 537449 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232027: 537450 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232028: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for El Facil II (Luddic Church)
   Line 232029: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232030: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232031: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232032: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232033: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232034: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232035: 537451 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232036: 537452 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zaril I (independent)
   Line 232037: 537452 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
   Line 232038: 537452 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
   Line 232039: 537452 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
   Line 232040: 537453 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Kuromie I (Scy)
   Line 232041: 537453 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232042: 537453 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232043: 537453 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organics_complex
   Line 232044: 537454 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232045: 537454 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232046: 537454 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232047: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Chitose III (Hegemony)
   Line 232048: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232049: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
   Line 232050: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232051: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232052: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232053: 537455 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232054: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Rinoa I (Sindrian Diktat)
   Line 232055: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
   Line 232056: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232057: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: trade_center
   Line 232058: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
   Line 232059: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
   Line 232060: 537456 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232061: 537457 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for El Facil (Blackrock)
   Line 232062: 537457 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
   Line 232063: 537458 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232064: 537458 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232065: 537458 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: autofac_heavy_industry
   Line 232066: 537458 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232067: 537459 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sanctuary (Diable Avionics)
   Line 232068: 537459 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232069: 537459 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: autofac_heavy_industry
   Line 232070: 537459 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232071: 537459 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232072: 537459 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232073: 537460 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Rinoa (Luddic Church)
   Line 232074: 537460 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232075: 537460 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232076: 537460 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232077: 537460 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232078: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Mog (Citadel)
   Line 232079: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232080: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232081: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232082: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232083: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232084: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232085: 537461 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232086: 537462 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Hoth (independent)
   Line 232087: 537462 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
   Line 232088: 537462 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232089: 537462 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232090: 537462 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232091: 537462 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232092: 537463 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232093: 537463 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Kahje I (pirates)
   Line 232094: 537463 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232095: 537463 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232096: 537464 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Theisman (Blackrock)
   Line 232097: 537464 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232098: 537464 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232099: 537464 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232100: 537464 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232101: 537464 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232102: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Mog I (Sindrian Diktat)
   Line 232103: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: autofac_heavy_industry
   Line 232104: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232105: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232106: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Kuromie (Hegemony)
   Line 232107: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volturnian_lobster_pens
   Line 232108: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232109: 537465 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
   Line 232110: 537466 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232111: 537466 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232112: 537466 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Chitose II (Scy)
   Line 232113: 537466 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232114: 537466 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232115: 537466 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
   Line 232116: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Shaper I (Luddic Church)
   Line 232117: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232118: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232119: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
   Line 232120: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Raqueler (Blackrock)
   Line 232121: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
   Line 232122: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232123: 537467 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232124: 537468 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232125: 537468 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: urbanized_polity
   Line 232126: 537468 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Yanakov (independent)
   Line 232127: 537468 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organics_complex
   Line 232128: 537468 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232129: 537468 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232130: 537469 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zaril II (Sindrian Diktat)
   Line 232131: 537469 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
   Line 232132: 537469 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: cottage_industry
   Line 232133: 537469 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232134: 537469 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
   Line 232135: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Libertas Command (Diable Avionics)
   Line 232136: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232137: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232138: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
   Line 232139: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Exerelin B Base (Hegemony)
   Line 232140: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232141: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232142: 537470 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
   Line 232143: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Candless Port (Citadel)
   Line 232144: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232145: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232146: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232147: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Anisimovna Trading Post (pirates)
   Line 232148: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232149: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232150: 537471 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
   Line 232151: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Servator B Ledge (Scy)
   Line 232152: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232153: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
   Line 232154: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Raqueler II Dock (Luddic Church)
   Line 232155: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232156: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232157: 537472 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232158: 537473 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232159: 537473 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232160: 537473 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for El Facil I Exchange (Diable Avionics)
   Line 232161: 537473 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232162: 537473 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232163: 537473 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
   Line 232164: 537474 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Rakhana Terminal (independent)
   Line 232165: 537474 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232166: 537474 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232167: 537474 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232168: 537474 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232169: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for White Haven Trading Post (Blackrock)
   Line 232170: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232171: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_complex
   Line 232172: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232173: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232174: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Semmelweiss Backwater (pirates)
   Line 232175: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232176: 537475 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232177: 537476 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232178: 537476 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Grayson Orbital (Scy)
   Line 232179: 537476 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232180: 537476 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232181: 537476 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
   Line 232182: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Qwerty Nest (Hegemony)
   Line 232183: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: antimatter_fuel_production
   Line 232184: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: autofac_heavy_industry
   Line 232185: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232186: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232187: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Courvosier Trading Post (Sindrian Diktat)
   Line 232188: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232189: 537477 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232190: 537478 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
   Line 232191: 537478 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232192: 537478 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Kahje II Terminal (Citadel)
   Line 232193: 537478 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232194: 537478 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232195: 537478 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Vivi Backwater (Luddic Church)
   Line 232196: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232197: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
   Line 232198: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232199: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232200: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: large_refugee_population
   Line 232201: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Zanzibar Quey (Scy)
   Line 232202: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232203: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: dissident
   Line 232204: 537479 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
   Line 232205: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Enemonzo Orbital (Blackrock)
   Line 232206: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: spaceport
   Line 232207: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_recycling_plant
   Line 232208: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: vice_demand
   Line 232209: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Hyperion I Dock (Citadel)
   Line 232210: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: light_industrial_complex
   Line 232211: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232212: 537480 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: ore_refining_complex
   Line 232213: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
   Line 232214: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Sechaveh Port (Sindrian Diktat)
   Line 232215: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232216: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
   Line 232217: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Figaro Shipyard (Hegemony)
   Line 232218: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
   Line 232219: 537481 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: military_base
   Line 232220: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Nacio Base (Diable Avionics)
   Line 232221: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: volatiles_complex
   Line 232222: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_supply_workshop
   Line 232223: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: stealth_minefields
   Line 232224: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232225: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Processing market conditions for Servator Post (pirates)
   Line 232226: 537482 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: exerelin_hydroponics
   Line 232227: 537483 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: outpost
   Line 232228: 537483 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  -    Adding condition: organized_crime
   Line 232229: 537483 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance domestic goods supply/demand: 852130 / 1081920
   Line 232230: 537483 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Chitose III (size 7)
   Line 232231: 537483 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Vivi Backwater (size 5)
   Line 232232: 537483 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Raqueler (size 6)
   Line 232233: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to Mog I (size 5)
   Line 232234: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Light Industrial Complex to El Facil (size 7)
   Line 232235: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final domestic goods supply/demand: 1013130 / 1081920
   Line 232236: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance supplies supply/demand: 169500 / 97828
   Line 232237: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance metal supply/demand: 208000 / 210000
   Line 232238: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance weapons supply/demand: 300000 / 1187699
   Line 232239: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Milfeulle
   Line 232240: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from El Facil
   Line 232241: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Sanctuary
   Line 232242: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Mog I
   Line 232243: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Qwerty Nest
   Line 232244: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to El Facil
   Line 232245: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Mog I
   Line 232246: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final supplies supply/demand: 133500 / 97828
   Line 232247: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final metal supply/demand: 208000 / 150000
   Line 232248: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final weapons supply/demand: 180000 / 1187699
   Line 232249: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance food supply/demand: 7339472 / 8719200
   Line 232250: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final food supply/demand: 7339472 / 8719200
   Line 232251: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance fuel supply/demand: 120000 / 62214
   Line 232252: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Antimatter Fuel Production from Chitose III
   Line 232253: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Antimatter Fuel Production from Rinoa I
   Line 232254: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final fuel supply/demand: 80000 / 62214
   Line 232255: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance organics supply/demand: 3916082 / 2679994
   Line 232256: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Organics Complex from Kuromie I
   Line 232257: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final organics supply/demand: 3416082 / 2679994
   Line 232258: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance volatiles supply/demand: 4187500 / 2149038
   Line 232259: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Volatiles Complex from Hoth
   Line 232260: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Volatiles Complex from Kuromie
   Line 232261: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Volatiles Complex from Zaril II
   Line 232262: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final volatiles supply/demand: 2687500 / 2149038
   Line 232263: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance metal supply/demand: 208000 / 150000
   Line 232264: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Ore Refining Complex from Milfeulle
   Line 232265: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing Ore Refining Complex from Kuromie II
   Line 232266: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final metal supply/demand: 188000 / 150000
   Line 232267: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance ore supply/demand: 220000 / 200000
   Line 232268: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Raqueler
   Line 232269: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing Ore Complex to Candless Port
   Line 232270: 537485 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final ore supply/demand: 260000 / 200000
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If I had to guess I'd say that the balancing calculates demand for some goods incorrectly after changing conditions:

   Line 232238: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Pre-balance weapons supply/demand: 300000 / 1187699
   Line 232239: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Milfeulle
   Line 232240: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from El Facil
   Line 232241: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Sanctuary
   Line 232242: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Mog I
   Line 232243: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Removed balancing heavy autofac from Qwerty Nest
   Line 232244: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to El Facil
   Line 232245: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Added balancing heavy autofac to Mog I
   Line 232246: 537484 [Thread-5] INFO  exerelin.world.ExerelinMarketSetup  - Final supplies supply/demand: 133500 / 97828

« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 02:41:17 PM by Xan »
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #564 on: December 07, 2015, 02:50:26 PM »

Holy cow, is it even remotely possible to start in current Nexelerin? I have tried 5 times, never getting supplies cost below 280. So, basically, all I could do is to get to the nearest neutral market, buy myself a shuttle, and be left with about 3000 in cash, which is equal to 10 supplies! What should I do then? The best I managed so far is to kill pirate fleet of 2 frigates, which yielded me 20 money and 1 supply as a loot and 180 money as a bounty reward! Hell, this is less than 2 supplies total for killing two frigging frigates! If I sound a bit annoyed, it's only because I just wasted a whole evening trying to get my foothold in latest 0.7.1 set of mods, and it's best I got before being hammered between pirates coming from thin air, flying faster than me and ganking me with a several fleets at once and economy draining every last cent off me because fighting is plainly unprofitable.

By this point (or may be earlier) you might want to say that this is because I suck. Well I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I fared nicely & easily starting Nexelerin in 0.65.2, so this is not (the only) case. Please do something about enemy flying faster than me, pursuing across half the map, and dropping loot not worthy 50% of supplies I wasted in the process.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #565 on: December 07, 2015, 02:57:43 PM »

There's a reason it says "beta" in the thread title. No need to panic.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #566 on: December 07, 2015, 06:04:26 PM »

Holy cow, is it even remotely possible to start in current Nexelerin? I have tried 5 times, never getting supplies cost below 280. So, basically, all I could do is to get to the nearest neutral market, buy myself a shuttle, and be left with about 3000 in cash, which is equal to 10 supplies! What should I do then? The best I managed so far is to kill pirate fleet of 2 frigates, which yielded me 20 money and 1 supply as a loot and 180 money as a bounty reward! Hell, this is less than 2 supplies total for killing two frigging frigates! If I sound a bit annoyed, it's only because I just wasted a whole evening trying to get my foothold in latest 0.7.1 set of mods, and it's best I got before being hammered between pirates coming from thin air, flying faster than me and ganking me with a several fleets at once and economy draining every last cent off me because fighting is plainly unprofitable.

By this point (or may be earlier) you might want to say that this is because I suck. Well I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I fared nicely & easily starting Nexelerin in 0.65.2, so this is not (the only) case. Please do something about enemy flying faster than me, pursuing across half the map, and dropping loot not worthy 50% of supplies I wasted in the process.
The supply cost is due to the economy generation not being perfect when using Nexerelin, so you'd probably have to restart with a new file a few times to try and get normal prices. As for the rest of your concerns, that's 0.7.1a's new mechanics, not Nexerelin's.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #567 on: December 07, 2015, 07:13:33 PM »

Blackrock commission reduces my reputation for having hostile relations with "bounty hunters" and "wanted". (In Nexelerin)
Not sure whether it is SS+ or Blackrock bug...

Otherwise awesome mod as always.
I have the same problem except I have commission with Tiandong in Nexerelin. I also use SS+.
Nex bug, I believe.  SS+ overrides the event, but Nexerelin re-overrides it without the fixes SS+ makes.

Is there any solution for this issue? I got 3 months in before this went off as well. Supposidly this is a nexerelin-starsector+ hybrid bug caused by nexerelin specifically.

For now, I am just adding the repuation back in after losing it via console commands, to neutralize the effect.
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« Reply #568 on: December 07, 2015, 07:38:51 PM »

Is it intentional that Knights Templar have -60 faction relationship with all others (at best) when using the random option at game start?

This is a special faction, that is supposed to be hostile to everyone.

Vanilla Ludd Raiders faction that was created recently work in the same way.
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Re: [0.7.1a] Nexerelin v0.7+ (new beta available 2015-12-06)
« Reply #569 on: December 07, 2015, 08:20:08 PM »

Well, guess I'll be spending the week gutting and redoing the economy generator again (hopefully for the last time).

*dramatic sigh*

Blackrock commission reduces my reputation for having hostile relations with "bounty hunters" and "wanted". (In Nexelerin)
Not sure whether it is SS+ or Blackrock bug...

Otherwise awesome mod as always.
I have the same problem except I have commission with Tiandong in Nexerelin. I also use SS+.
Nex bug, I believe.  SS+ overrides the event, but Nexerelin re-overrides it without the fixes SS+ makes.

Is there any solution for this issue? I got 3 months in before this went off as well. Supposidly this is a nexerelin-starsector+ hybrid bug caused by nexerelin specifically.

For now, I am just adding the repuation back in after losing it via console commands, to neutralize the effect.
Commenting out the relevant line in Nexerelin's events.json should work, although I don't know if existing saves will break. Note that doing this will likely cause bugs if SS+ is off.

The hardcore solution is to port the necessary changes from SS+'s commission event into Nexerelin's and make it use that.
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