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Author Topic: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6d "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-04-26)  (Read 1184469 times)

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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3015 on: April 07, 2020, 03:00:02 AM »

I can also tell that outpost give me money, but as you could see imma bit outdated. Perhaps that guy too.
Ty for answers.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3016 on: April 07, 2020, 12:45:24 PM »

I heard we can order a ship to buy but for a double price, the thing is I couldn't find how, any help?
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3017 on: April 07, 2020, 01:39:27 PM »

I heard we can order a ship to buy but for a double price, the thing is I couldn't find how, any help?


You need to hire agent, travel them to preferably a military market of another faction, then initiate a mission with them. Scroll down to Procure Ship, and then you will be asked to pick a ship.  Its indeed twice or more the cost....1.2 million + for battleships and other high grades and has a high chance of failure. For example, my level 3 agent has a 55% chance of success on stealing one of those reparations society battlecruisers, for a cost of 800k....Takes 36 days to complete.


Histidine:  It would be interesting if this mechanic could be expanded to weapons, wherein you would chose weapons on the same kinda screen, with the failure rate and price going up with the value you have selected.   Could possibly even expand this into diplomatically acquired resources coming in to your colonies on supply fleets..
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3018 on: April 07, 2020, 01:54:42 PM »

Is there a setting in Nexerelin wherein i can tone down the interval between Luddic path sleepers cells and Pirate activity?  I dont care about invasions, but the whack-a-mole to hunt these things down is ....yeah, killing my desire to keep playing. The problem multiplies when you have lots of factions and more then 3 markets under control, and with Boggle's terraforming mod that counts siphon stations etc etc as markets its literally all i spend most of my play time doing(hunting down all those bases).


Also, and a side note...dismissed agents notification staying on the agents screen apparently forever...
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3019 on: April 07, 2020, 02:09:53 PM »

I am Vary confused I did see it, but I just made another outpost in the same game so same parameters and stuffed a tons of ships and items into storage and waited a month and got the correct result. I did not colonies when I saw the outpost paying me for storage so perhaps something changes behind the scenes when you make a colony? I'll do some testing Friday to try to reproduce the bug when i have time.
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« Reply #3020 on: April 07, 2020, 05:48:50 PM »

I am Vary confused I did see it, but I just made another outpost in the same game so same parameters and stuffed a tons of ships and items into storage and waited a month and got the correct result. I did not colonies when I saw the outpost paying me for storage so perhaps something changes behind the scenes when you make a colony? I'll do some testing Friday to try to reproduce the bug when i have time.

Until i drained it of stuff, the first and only outpost i put up in penelope's star was showing a positive income of +9500 per month.. It had quite a bit of various stuffs in it. When nearly drained out its now showing -2500 per month.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3021 on: April 07, 2020, 10:15:31 PM »

Can you add an option to like sponsor exploration fleet of your commission faction? Cuz the only way I see is to establish a new one by myself and then give it to faction but it will trigger the creation of my own faction that I would like to avoid.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3022 on: April 08, 2020, 07:02:51 AM »

I'm playing with both NEX and Archean Order. Is it normal for Hegemony to have war weariness of 250k and still won't stop sending invasion fleets to everyone else? It sent 5 invasions to 5 out of my 8 planets the moment I retaliated against sudden war declaration.
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« Reply #3023 on: April 08, 2020, 05:43:07 PM »

I'm playing with both NEX and Archean Order. Is it normal for Hegemony to have war weariness of 250k and still won't stop sending invasion fleets to everyone else? It sent 5 invasions to 5 out of my 8 planets the moment I retaliated against sudden war declaration.

As i understand it, the higher that number gets the more it will attempt to send peace declarations to other AI factions. The AI factions have to accept however, which may or may not happen. It may be quite awhile before they settle down.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3024 on: April 08, 2020, 07:39:42 PM »

Is there a setting in Nexerelin wherein i can tone down the interval between Luddic path sleepers cells and Pirate activity?  I dont care about invasions, but the whack-a-mole to hunt these things down is ....yeah, killing my desire to keep playing. The problem multiplies when you have lots of factions and more then 3 markets under control, and with Boggle's terraforming mod that counts siphon stations etc etc as markets its literally all i spend most of my play time doing(hunting down all those bases).


Also, and a side note...dismissed agents notification staying on the agents screen apparently forever...
Nex doesn't touch pirate/Pather base spawning, but you can mess with some values in vanilla settings.json and see if it helps.
Though Pather cells barely matter in current version anyway.
Code: json
	"minPirateBases":2,
"maxPirateBases":3,

"minLPBases":2,
"maxLPBases":3,
As for dismissed agents, make sure you've unflagged the intel items as important (the (!) button).

Can you add an option to like sponsor exploration fleet of your commission faction? Cuz the only way I see is to establish a new one by myself and then give it to faction but it will trigger the creation of my own faction that I would like to avoid.
When you give away the planet it uncreates your faction with no penalty though.
I've been meaning to add a colony fleet request feature, but there's no good way to do the target selection GUI at present.

I'm playing with both NEX and Archean Order. Is it normal for Hegemony to have war weariness of 250k and still won't stop sending invasion fleets to everyone else? It sent 5 invasions to 5 out of my 8 planets the moment I retaliated against sudden war declaration.
- Check the enemies' war weariness as well. Among the top 3 enemies with the highest war weariness, at least one must meet the minWarWearinessForPeace value in exerelin_config.json.
(The chance of a ceasefire roll succeeding also depends on the sum of the two factions' war weariness compared with the warWearinessDivisor and its level modifiers, but 250k should guarantee it on anything resembling default settings)

- However, a faction will not offer a ceasefire to anyone the first faction is currently sending invasion fleets to.

- In any case, one faction launching five invasion events at once should be functionally impossible under default settings. It suggests something seriously wrong with the settings or the state of the game.
If you upload the save somewhere I can try to see what's causing the problem.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3025 on: April 10, 2020, 06:08:11 AM »

Hello. got a few questions
How can i change the time it takes for diplomatic events to happen, they happen to fast for my liking.
would you consider making it slower/take longer for Diplo events to happen.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3026 on: April 10, 2020, 08:00:44 AM »

Do killed factions eventually respawn unless we give them a colony?
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« Reply #3027 on: April 11, 2020, 06:39:59 PM »

what would happen if i set  both flags to 0 for pirates/pathers?  Those events simply wouldnt spawn anymore?
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3028 on: April 12, 2020, 06:57:10 AM »

Hello. got a few questions
How can i change the time it takes for diplomatic events to happen, they happen to fast for my liking.
would you consider making it slower/take longer for Diplo events to happen.
eventFrequency in data/config/exerelin/diplomacyConfig.json
It's already been increased a couple of times, but I may bump it up a bit higher.

Do killed factions eventually respawn unless we give them a colony?
They can respawn by spawning an invasion from a hidden base (or through a rebellion) if this is enabled at game start*. It doesn't usually succeed, though.

*use the OpenNexConfig console command to toggle midgame

what would happen if i set  both flags to 0 for pirates/pathers?  Those events simply wouldnt spawn anymore?
Probably, but can't say for sure without testing.
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Re: [0.9.1a] Nexerelin v0.9.6c "Earth and Sky" (update 2020-03-28)
« Reply #3029 on: April 13, 2020, 06:47:15 PM »

I'm playing with both NEX and Archean Order. Is it normal for Hegemony to have war weariness of 250k and still won't stop sending invasion fleets to everyone else? It sent 5 invasions to 5 out of my 8 planets the moment I retaliated against sudden war declaration.
- Check the enemies' war weariness as well. Among the top 3 enemies with the highest war weariness, at least one must meet the minWarWearinessForPeace value in exerelin_config.json.
(The chance of a ceasefire roll succeeding also depends on the sum of the two factions' war weariness compared with the warWearinessDivisor and its level modifiers, but 250k should guarantee it on anything resembling default settings)

- However, a faction will not offer a ceasefire to anyone the first faction is currently sending invasion fleets to.

- In any case, one faction launching five invasion events at once should be functionally impossible under default settings. It suggests something seriously wrong with the settings or the state of the game.
If you upload the save somewhere I can try to see what's causing the problem.

I'm not sure of the specifics that would cause this particular issue so not 100% certain here, but it's very likely my fault due to an oversight with my NEX config and will be fixed for my next release (which will hopefully be pretty soon I have had a lot of time to work on it but the work list has been huge this time). I believe it's because I have duplicate JSONs for vanilla files in Archean Order's exerelinFactionConfig directory. The intent there is to make sure the starting fleets include Archean Order ships within the faction starting fleets (since the balance is different and this will be a requirement for the mod merging changes coming with the next update) and I have implemented custom themed and uniquely armed stations so I added them with a weight of 10000 iirc to preserve the TC experience in the mod when running alongside Nex.

Since I think I copied those files from Nex to use as examples, I forgot to delete the things I didn't need and so I think a lot of values were being merged and duplicated when running the two mods together. I hadn't accounted for that and didn't catch it while testing. I apologize for the inconvenience and confusion.
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