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GUNINANRUNIN

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Phasing and Whatnot
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:38:37 PM »

Share some PC phase strategies and load outs?
Particularly for that sodding 'Doom' class….
As far as I can tell its worthless. Just about anything else is better i.e. costs less, easier to use, provides better results.
Hum. :C
What IS cool is being able to sit under the guns of any Cap for as long as you damned well please!
Very satisfying indeed.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 08:46:13 AM »

Honestly i haven't used the phase ships much, mostly because they are generally useless. since they are so vulnerable without shields and you can't do anything while phased AND your flux is pretty much a delayed deaths sentence. 1v1 works, sure, but anything more than that is kinda useless. IMHO it all comes down to Dakka: When there is not enough Dakka means you need more Dakka.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 10:07:54 AM »

The Doom needs a new paint job.
Red ones go fastah.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 10:35:34 AM »

Honestly i haven't used the phase ships much, mostly because they are generally useless. since they are so vulnerable without shields and you can't do anything while phased AND your flux is pretty much a delayed deaths sentence. 1v1 works, sure, but anything more than that is kinda useless. IMHO it all comes down to Dakka: When there is not enough Dakka means you need more Dakka.

you got to know how to use it.

i fly the Shade with deadly results, for the enemy.  ;)

you don't want to stray too far from your fleet, because the enemy has a high bounty on your head.

i find the best way is to use the longest range weapons available, which means Tac Lasers, with the Advanced Optics for extra range.
3 of them is all i need.

with this set-up, it can outrange a Hound or Buffalo in a 1 on 1 fight.

but the Shade is best used in a support role.
and yes, you can do things while phased; make the enemy very nervous and divert their attentions. lol

hell, i should make a video for you folks.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 10:38:29 AM »

hell, i should make a video for you folks.

I tried running a Shade for a bit, and found it a lot of fun, if ultimately disappointing (because I kept getting blown to pieces).

I would love to see a competent pilot in action, so I support this motion!
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 10:54:10 AM »

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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2012, 12:41:22 PM »

Don't get me wrong. Phase ships are very useful if used properly but they are, at the end of the day, a gimmick. Something nice to use in a particular situation but less effective overall. At the end of the day i stick to high-tech ships using pulse lasers and a strong investment in shields and flux efficiency.

I always get a Wolf frigate rigth  away and get enough money to swap for a tempest with double pulse. a double pulse tempest alone can kill pretty much any fleet up to cruisers or capitals. After that it's a simply matter of farming credits to get an Aurora, Eagle or Odyssey, drop a couple of fighter wings in there (thunder or xephos) and you're good to go. Get another capital and farm for the Paragon.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2012, 02:35:41 PM »

Particularly for that sodding 'Doom' class….
As far as I can tell its worthless. Just about anything else is better i.e. costs less, easier to use, provides better results.

This isn't true!

I ran a simulation and found that if you replace the 4 sabot missiles with 4 light needlers you can quite easily go toe to toe with a Dominator.

Just use the needler to take down the shields and, provided you have better aim than I do, let the reaper torpedoes do the talking. Repeat this process a few times and then BOOM! Its not hard.   
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2012, 03:52:04 PM »

Particularly for that sodding 'Doom' class….
As far as I can tell its worthless. Just about anything else is better i.e. costs less, easier to use, provides better results.

This isn't true!

I ran a simulation and found that if you replace the 4 sabot missiles with 4 light needlers you can quite easily go toe to toe with a Dominator.

Just use the needler to take down the shields and, provided you have better aim than I do, let the reaper torpedoes do the talking. Repeat this process a few times and then BOOM! Its not hard.   


The dominator is a destroyer though and if I remember correctly only costs 10 fp so the doom by all rights should mop the floor with it even an enforcer only costs 15 to the doom's 20 and I very much doubt that a doom could go 1v1 with it.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2012, 03:55:39 PM »

Dominator's a cruiser IIRC.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2012, 03:59:51 PM »

yeah he swapped the dominator and enforcer

EDIT: And I have 1v1'd enforcers and dominators It's not THAT hard.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2012, 04:48:39 PM »

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I very much doubt that a doom could go 1v1 with it.
It can 1v1. Great. Awesome.

But can you make it pull its own weight in a fleet?
Honestly I doubt it.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012, 04:54:32 PM »

They really aren't worth it. I've tried buying a few cheap-o phase ships, but they suck pretty hard, both with me in the cockpit and without. The only situation in which they seem even vaguely helpful is for getting round behind a big capital ship without 360 shields, and laying into the back of it. Unfortunately, most small ships can do this better, faster, and without being so useless in every other situation.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012, 06:25:56 PM »

A speed bonus while phased would be kinda fun.
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Re: Phasing and Whatnot
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 06:05:04 AM »

Dominator's a cruiser IIRC.

Sorry for that I often get confused about the names of ships, but the point can still be made that the doom's 20 Fp are more than it should be given its effectiveness especially in large fleet battles.
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