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Faiter119

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Phase ships in the next update?
« on: July 07, 2012, 04:37:34 PM »

From Alexes twitter: "Working on the AI so that it knows what to do with (and against) phase ships. Love AI work, but it just eats up time."

So i guess this means that:

A: The Phase ships may come in the next update.
B: The current update is done and he is working on the next.
C: He is just randomly working on it on it.

I actually hope for him to just release the current update now and include phase in the next updates, as i am thirsting for a new update :)

And i guess this also means that he got some features and stuff down for the phase ships already.

And follow Alex on twitter! His name is @amosolov

EDIT: Follow Ivaylo aswell :) @GuymanNubbins

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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 06:28:59 PM »

Oof, really feeling the gap between updates this time. I hope it comes out soon. :(
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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 10:35:56 AM »

it will get here when it gets here  :)

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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2012, 10:48:04 AM »

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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2012, 01:09:38 PM »

so, uh, what's a phase ship? (If you don't mind my asking.)
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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2012, 01:16:55 PM »

Its a ship that can Phase of course! Become invisible.
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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2012, 01:30:16 PM »

phase is more than just "invisible" it would be the next evolution of cloak. not only would you be invisible (think star trek cloaking device) but you would be out of sync (sometimes referred to as out of step with normal space) with the rest of space.. so things like missiles and bullets would be able to pass through your ship. of course the draw back to that is that all your ammo is also out of phase so you would be unable to fire back.
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You won't be able to refit fighters and bombers at all. They're designed/balanced around having a particular set of weapons and would be very broken if you could change it. Which ones you pick for your fleet -out of quite a few that are available- is the choice here, not how they're outfitted.

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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2012, 01:34:40 PM »

cool, good to know.
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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2012, 01:57:20 PM »

[...] of course the draw back to that is that all your ammo is also out of phase so you would be unable to fire back [...]

But energy weapons don't use ammo, only energy, so what's the solution behind them not being able to fire?
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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2012, 01:59:30 PM »

Phase ships are kind've in and not in in next update.
We have phase teleporters on the Wolf and Medusa and a fully fledged teleporter on the Hyperion.

Invisible... dunno
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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2012, 01:59:43 PM »

[...] of course the draw back to that is that all your ammo is also out of phase so you would be unable to fire back [...]

But energy weapons don't use ammo, only energy, so what's the solution behind them not being able to fire?

We'l see when Alex releases it :)

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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 02:00:45 PM »

Phase ships are kind've in and not in in next update.
We have phase teleporters on the Wolf and Medusa and a fully fledged teleporter on the Hyperion.

Invisible... dunno

We're talking about the Twitter post in the OP. Where he says he's working on them at the time.
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Re: Phase ships in the next update?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2012, 06:59:18 PM »

*looks at topic, looks at twitter, has nerdgasim*
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I'd say the phase cloak AI is moving along pretty well - and spurring some other AI improvements along the way.

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From the AI testing files: "Let's see how badly this phase cruiser gets slaughtered by the Dominator! ... Oh, it won."

saw this on his twitter so i guess that means phase ships are a yes!!!

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Re: Phase ships in the next uppdate?
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2012, 09:53:53 PM »

[...] of course the draw back to that is that all your ammo is also out of phase so you would be unable to fire back [...]

But energy weapons don't use ammo, only energy, so what's the solution behind them not being able to fire?

you would have to think of it as a 4th dimension.. that is both part of yet separate from the first 3. part of as in you still have all 3 axis but separate as in they do not intersect. so your "energy shots" would never enter the first 3 dimensions where your targets are. your out of phase weapon is going to fire out of phase energy. unless your target enters the same plane of existence as you it would just pass threw them. the laws that state two objects can not occupy the same point in space at the same time would seem to not apply "since you would see objects/energy passing threw other objects. but it would be a visual trick. because the objects never intersected in the first place.

example that i hope makes a little bit of sense.



also even though i used "side view" and "top down" to attempt to show what is going on. if it were a true 3d scene and not your computer screen those pics would be interchangeable as in top down could become the side view and the side view could become the top down view etc. you would not be able to discern the difference between them. think something like a ghost.
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You won't be able to refit fighters and bombers at all. They're designed/balanced around having a particular set of weapons and would be very broken if you could change it. Which ones you pick for your fleet -out of quite a few that are available- is the choice here, not how they're outfitted.

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Re: Phase ships in the next update?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 03:47:47 AM »

That all sounds awfully complicated... Why not just normal cloak?
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